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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 01:06 AM
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Judith Miller as a CIA asset from the beginning of her career?
I was listening to 'Free Speech Radio News' on KPFA Pacifica.... it was going on in the background as I was packing my kids for 3 weeks of camp. After reporting on the Judith Miller situation they stated that Judith Miller had gotten her start as a Washington Correspondent for Pacifica in 1970.

OK, that freaked me out, because Pacifica has been attacked from within and without sooo many times.
The most recent
http://www.zmag.org/ZMag/articles/kfpa.htm
a bit further back
http://forum.wbai.net/tab_6-01/8_timeline.html


They were also shut down and brought into the McCarthy trials.
It is a network abhorrent to the powers that be.


JUDITH MILLER started her career there in 1970.... the station has been infiltrated MANY times. Was she one of them? Could she have been ' with the gang ' from the beginning of her career? How many journalists that started at Pacifica got as far in their careers as she did? Hint - none.

She admits to have started at Pacifica -

http://www.savepacifica.net/950221_wpost.html
<snip>
Nonetheless, he adds that to preserve its independence, it would be best for the network to do without any federal support -- as it did before CPB was founded in 1967. "There wasn't the objectivity I've come to know and revere at the New York Times," said Judith Miller, a senior writer for that paper who worked for Pacifica in the early 1970s. "The place was crazy and lively, but it was serious radio. It was dealing with problems the official Establishment wasn't. I did a story on lobotomies, which were still being done as a way to treat mental illness. It covered gay issues. They had someone in Hanoi. They gave lots of people like me -- women and minorities -- chances."

What's interesting is how difficult it is for me to get info on this.

Can someone do some more research? Please? I have NO time.



My Google search shows this result
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&c2coff=1&client=safa...
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 01:14 AM
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1. Pacifica has archives.
You might write them and they could research old radio shows for items by her. Might be interesting to see her work in the light of what is going on today.
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 01:33 AM
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6. I shall... I have contributed over $500 over 5 years to the archives...
They are in disrepair, and need to be re-recorded in a more permanent medium. Pacifica does an archive drive once a year... it is one of the days I will not miss... amazing stuff. I will ask for info.
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snot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 01:15 AM
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2. kick nt
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hexola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 01:18 AM
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3. Isn't she one of the only western journalists to interview BinLaden?
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Lori Price CLG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 02:01 AM
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13. ROFL!! She was making sure he was ok for Rove to hire for 9/11.
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FairGame Donating Member (22 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 01:20 AM
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4. Just got this off of Huffington Post its a comment to

O'Donnell's latest blog. ................


Hey my friends. Just lean back & let it work. K. Rove may not have been the source for the Plame leak; he may have told Cooper & Miller who the source to Novak was--get the difference. So Cooper & Miller aren't protecting Rove. Worse yet, Novak had 2 sources, he said, and Rove is clever enough to have given Miller & Cooper the wrong names; i.e., a set up. Fitzgerald knows the sources, so he may be trying to get ironclad corroboration for a trial, get a perjury rap on false (misleading) testimony before his jurors, or a CONSPIRACY rap--which would be one big, tasty enchilada. Think & imagine: what if Cheney is the source, or Rove & Cheney, or Rice & Cheney; you need to examine the permutations, just like a chess game. O'Donnell is the only media dog in this hunt because the R-TV trained chimps are too dumb to hold a pair of ideas in their mind at the same time. A real writer can follow multiple plot lines, simultaniously. So can some prosecutors.

Posted by: walt at July 6, 2005 12:33 AM
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jaysunb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 01:51 AM
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10. Agreed !
This is much bigger and far more reaching than most here and elsewhere realize. Fitzgerald is a bulldog, and like most special prosecutors before him, he has put together a damning dossier that will expose and bring down the whole gang .
I wrote on a thread almost 2 years ago that the Plame affair would be the ruin of the Bush "mis-administration."

I'm still convinced. :evilgrin:
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FairGame Donating Member (22 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 01:53 AM
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11. I am incredibly hopeful that it is.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 01:20 AM
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5. Why do you assume she's CIA? Pacifica attracted attention from
a number of intelligence -- domestic and foreign -- and law enforcement agencies. It was a good place to be "sheep-dipped", to pick up Left-wing credentials, with which one could go on to establish ties to everything from Black nationalist to Palestinian liberation movements.

Given Miller's later close ties with the PNAC-AIPAC-OSP-Chalabi INC crowd, one might instead infer that she was an asset of a certain foreign intelligence agency.
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 01:35 AM
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7. In all honesty I will not assume WHAT group she is from....
But has there ever been another PACIFICA alumni to achieve even close to her level of prominence?
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 01:46 AM
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9. Yes, Casper Weinberger, Sec of Defense under Reagan
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 01:57 AM
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12. uh, yeah...............
Edited on Thu Jul-07-05 02:01 AM by alittlelark
care to elaborate? If that is for real... then that is super scary.
Pacifica has been a magnet for infiltration by the powers that be.


I will request info from the archives!
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 02:38 AM
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16. guess where they got their initial funding?
Lew Hill was having a hard time getting investors,
so the CIA gave him a something like $50,000.
It was mentioned on Roy Tuckman's show many years ago,
that's all I really know about it.
Roy was asked about it on the air, he said, "we don't like to talk about it".
I think it came up on Amy Goodman's show around the same time.
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 02:55 AM
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17. I can do no research this week - but I will once the kids
are safely ensconced at camp.
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 03:20 AM
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18. Do you have a link?
Gimme whatever ya got.
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Kenneth ken Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 03:38 AM
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21. here's a link
Edited on Thu Jul-07-05 03:57 AM by Kenneth ken
It does mention Caspar Weinberger doing work at KPFA, but it doesn't give any detail. About 3/4 of the way down.

http://www.radio4all.org/fp/polpat-ppr.htm

edit: I'll add the paragraph:

" Over the years there has been a lot of confusion about Pacifica's mission. Mainly because of how Pacifica has grown and how Pacificaand how things have worked out. And it has been different at all of the different Pacifica stations. At KPFA, which I am most familiar with, I know that in the late '50s and the '60s, Pacifica really focussed on a lot of avant garde music, it focussed on the Beat generation, Pauline Kael did her first work at KPFA. On the other hand, the first work that Caspar Weinberger did came out of KPFA as well. And at this time you were dealing with political and academic people and that's what Pacifica broadcasts sound like. And before that, because there were no FM radios, Pacifica distributed FM radios so that people that wanted to listen to Pacifica could at least hear the programming at Pacifica."

edit again - another link, and I'll clip the relevant paragraph

http://www.cfdp.info/archives/Bramlaza.htm

Pacifica when founded by Lewis Hill was not "progressive"; it was about left-right dialog, to show that people could get along. Very different from today. National Review had a Pacifica program; John Birch Society moderated a show on KPFA. Caspar Weinberger was on Pacifica. It was "a very carefully controlled experiment in left-right dialog. They ran into a ... problem -- the Cold War." Power structure didn't care that Caspar Weinberger was on; but it did care about William Mandel,card-carrying communists. All were dragged in to Washington, forced to give modified loyalty oath: oath of loyalty to the Constitution. That's when Pacifica became free speech-First Amendment radio. "It was in the context of the cold war that it became free speech radio." Drew a generation of young activists who did not come from 1930s pacifist student clubs but from the conflicts of the 1960s (Berkeley Free Speech Movement, Columbia uprising 1968).

So it appears he was there representing a rightist POV. :shrug:



and the last time I will edit this post :) :
a biography link for Weinberger - it doesn't mention KPFA at all, and the KPFA stuff doens't cite when he was with them, but he appears to have been doing something or other in CA at the same time - law-clerking? lawyering? State assembly? dunno...:

http://www.answers.com/topic/caspar-weinberger
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 05:47 AM
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24. thanks for looking that up
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 03:36 AM
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20. I've been waiting for something from you....
nothing.


I'll trust the chronology from KPFA then..... I am a hard core listener.

I have heard nothing like that coming from Lew..... at all.... not even close.
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 04:42 AM
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22. oops - sorry, didn't realize you were waiting for me
I don't check the board that often.

I don't have any links,
it's my recollection of what was said on-air many years ago,
probably back in the 1980's.

It's not that scary, it was early in Weinberger's career.
The CIA funded a lot of things, many of which they regret.

I did some googling and didn't find anything substantial.
If I find anything I'll add it to this thread and send you a PM,
it probably won't be for a day or two.
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 05:42 AM
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23. this is what I was thinking of
Ok, ken provided some links about Weinberger above.
As far as CIA funding - this seems to be what I was thinking of:
there was a funding emergency in 1952,
Lew Hill got a $150,000 grant from the Ford Foundation,
which may or may not be a front for the CIA.


from http://www.kpftradio.com/dec5a.html

One of the inviolable founding principles of Pacifica was that
the network would take no corporate funding, that it would be
entirely listener-supported. It almost worked. In 1952, the Ford
Foundation, a liberal institution at that time, kicked in
$150,000 to KPFA in response to an application from Lew Hill
himself. But that grant support was the exception, and occurred
in response to an emergency appeal by Hill. Then followed the
McCarthy era, and the Ford Foundation feared backlash so that
$150,000 was it for Pacifica for some time.


from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Foundation

Some critics have charged that the Foundation is a front
organisation for the Central Intelligence Agency ...
As former Ford Foundation president Richard Bisell acknowledged,
the purpose of the Foundation was not "so much to defeat the
leftist intellectuals in dialectical combat as to lure them away
from their positions".

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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 01:35 AM
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8. I bet 50% of the corpo media propaganda wing are CIA
Oops! Did I just out an operative?
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 02:10 AM
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14. You mean "Operation Mockingbird" continues?
"You could get a journalist cheaper than a good call girl, for a couple hundred dollars a month." - CIA operative discussing with Philip Graham, editor Washington Post, on the availability and prices of journalists willing to peddle CIA propaganda and cover stories. "Katherine The Great," by Deborah Davis (New York: Sheridan Square Press, 1991)

Who Controls the Media?

Soulless corporations do, of course. Corporations with grinning,
double-breasted executives, interlocking directorates, labor squabbles
and flying capital. Dow. General Electric. Coca-Cola. Disney.
Newspapers should have mastheads that mirror the world: The
Westinghouse Evening Scimitar, The Atlantic-Richfield Intelligentser .
It is beginning to dawn on a growing number of armchair ombudsmen that
the public print reports news from a parallel universe - one that has
never heard of politically-motivated assassinations, CIA-Mafia banking
thefts, mind control, death squads or even federal agencies with
secret budgets fattened by cocaine sales - a place overrun by lone
gunmen, where the CIA and Mafia are usually on their best behavior. In
this idyllic land, the most serious infraction an official can commit
__is a the employment of a domestic servant with (shudder) no
residency status.

This unlikely land of enchantment is the creation of MOCKINGBIRD.

It was conceived in the late 1940s, the most frigid period of the cold
war, when the CIA began a systematic infiltration of the corporate
media, a process that often included direct takeover of major news
outlets.

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/MOCK/...
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 02:22 AM
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15. that's it
:thumbsup:
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 03:23 AM
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19. We may understand it.... but how about those that do not.
We need someone to start a thread w/ many links connecting her to misc news-sources. I would if I could.... and I know many here can.
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