Pill Protest - News Hour (PBS) tonight

[paineinthearse]

Pill Protest

Correspondent Elizabeth Brackett of WTTW, Chicago reports on why some pharmacies are refusing to fill birth control and morning-after pill prescriptions on moral grounds.

News Hour on PBS - check your local listings.

[Iris]

1. This is sort of off topic, but I keep wondering

if life begins at conception, why is it ok for rich yuppies to conceive many, many babies through IVF treatments that not only may not make it into a womb, but could be in frozen limbo indefinitely, but if a college student is raped or a teenager makes one bad mistake, or a woman finds herself pregnant with one more child than she can adequately care for, she should be forced to go through a pregnancy.

I say if we are going forward with the idea that life begins at conception, then any couple who creates more embryos than needed for IVF should be required to implant each one into the woman's womb or find a suitable alternative womb for gestation.

[HockeyMom]

they have no clue about biology

Do they really thing that every fertilized egg results in a baby? If they think that, tell them to search their toilet bowls every time their period is a few days late. Have the contents tested to see if there is a blastocyst among the contents.

Sorry to be gross, but that is the facts.

[Iris]

5. Well, yes. They should be doing that so they can give the child a proper

funeral. Burying several "babies" found in your sanitary napkin shouldn't be too expensive, should it?

[paineinthearse]

2. Not off topic at all

Very valid observation.

I see DU as a place that encourages brainstorming. Glad you shared your thoughts.

[LibertyLover]

3. Actually . . .

* and his Evil Minions of Dooooooom have proposed a program to encourage just that activity. About 2-3 weeks ago He Whose Name Shall Not Be Spoken had a, well, I suppose you could call it a news conference, with a couple of kids who started out as IVF extra embryos and who were put up for adoption, as it were. I think it's a good idea personally and if I were a couple of years younger would definitely think about choosing to become a mother that way.

[Iris]

6. There have actually been only 12 such "adoptions" in this country.

There are way many more frozen embryos out there, I'm sure.

As sarcy possiblity is - will it become mandatory for every fertile young woman to carry these frozens "babies" to term? Yikes - Hand Maid's Tale.

[LibertyLover]

8. Yeah

I didn't think there had been too many as of yet. But Bushco is pushing the idea (do I hear "Every Sperm is Sacred" playing in the background?). It's one of those things that I don't have a real objection to, but say if * tried to make it mandatory that IVF patients HAD to donate their extra blastocysts or something along those lines, I'd change my mind about it in a New York minute.

[Hekate]

4. Bushies & fundies are nothing if not inconsistant

Pope John Paul II at least kept his message clear in that regard: artificial creation of life is as much a no-no as artificial birth control. "Life begins at conception" means not only no IUDs (which keep the fertilized egg from implanting) but no creating lots of fertilized eggs in a lab in order to have one baby. "God's will" is for some couples to be infertile; it's not "God's will" for a womb to carry 5 or 6 or 7 babies conceived outside the womb.

I may not have agreed with all of the late Pope's dogma on the subject, but at least he had an intelligent mind with a grasp of logic.

Hekate

[lesab]

7. I saw an expert....

on tv the other night that said it doesn't matter because with the discovery of cloning....everytime you wash your face or body you are killing living cells that have the ability to create life. I thought that her reasoning was awesome. The exact time of conception doesn't matter because if living human life is the key, Rebuttlickins can no longer take baths with any moral authority about life and when it begins.

Let them argue with that.