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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 09:41 PM
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I'm flying my flag July 4, Mr. President.
You bet I will.

I'll fly it for our troops, just as you suggested tonight. They're doing the job you sent them to do, even the ones who don't agree with you.

Hell, it's my flag just as much as it is yours, since both our daddies fought for it and the freedom it represents. But it means much more to me than just that. I hope you'll hear me out.

We have some things in common, Mr. President. Our fathers both fought honorably in World War II. And you and I avoided service in Viet Nam.

We both got lucky on that Viet Nam thing, Mr. President. You were lucky enough to have your dad get you off the hook so someone else could take your place. I was lucky enough to have the government end the war just soon enough so I wouldn't be conscripted. Like I said, we were both lucky.

I just heard you speak tonight of the war on terror. Of murderous ideology, of images of violence and bloodshed. You linked the terror we all felt on September 11, 2001 to the current "war on terror", as you call it, in Iraq.

Mr. President, I must say, do you really think we're that gullible?

I'll give you credit where it's due, Mr. President. You had either the courage or the gumption tonight to quote the very person whose name you've avoided for months: Osama bin Laden, whom you credit here:

"This Third World War is raging'' in Iraq. "The whole world is watching this war.'' He says it will end in "victory and glory or misery and humiliation.''

Mr. President, I despise Osama bin Laden, and I supported you, perhaps for the only time, when you promised to go after him and hunt him down. But Osama bin Laden is right about how all this will end. Which will it be, in the end? Victory and glory? Or misery and humiliation?

So we all want to know, why are we in Iraq instead? Why did you lie to us? Do you think we haven't figured it out? Come on, Mr. President. Let's keep it real for once, just you and me. You've gotten us into a real mess here, fella. Folks are starting to think you're in over your head.

Mr. President, we're of the same generation. Like I said, we have some things in common. But I must say, I think you've forgotten something very important that I was brought up with.

You've forgotten the American people. You know, the ones you represent.

Among us are the sick and old.

There are veterans who have returned from wars and paid the price asked of them only to find they can't get health care.

There are moms and dads who have lost their jobs, and sometimes their kids in your war.

There are people who work hard every day just to get by and feed their kids who have had their jobs sent to foreign lands so your rich friends can make more money.

Across the land, regular folks who have lost their children to this war expected more from you tonight. Instead, they got more of the same. They deserve better. We forgot Poland.

You forgot America.

Mr. President, my flag will fly on July 4th. Not because of you, but in spite of you. You see, I flew this flag long before you and your supporters wrapped yourself in it for personal gain. I flew it then and I fly it now because I believe in what it really stands for, not as a Republican Party trademark but as the banner of a free nation, worthy of respect and admiration around the world.

The flag belongs to the American people, and it represents all of us. Not some; all. Even those who choose to burn it.

I'm flying my flag July 4, Mr. President. Just like you said.
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tallahasseedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 09:43 PM
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1. Bravo!
:applause:
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 09:43 PM
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2. i dont support bush, i dont support the repugs in office, nor the war
but it is my flag too. they dont get to take it away from me. besides, i am not going to teach my boys to hate our flag. instead i am going ot teach them to love it enough to fight for it, even when in a situation we are today. that means become educated. they want ignorant, dont allow it. be informed. and speak out
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kliljedahl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 09:44 PM
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3. Beautifully done
Edited on Tue Jun-28-05 09:47 PM by kliljedahl
Kicked & nominated

On edit: Copied, saved & printed as I type.


Keith’s Barbeque Central
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KlatooBNikto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 09:45 PM
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4. I will fly it upside down until you resign in disgrace. I hope you have
the decency to resign before July 4.
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 09:45 PM
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5. A fine example
of democratic patriotism winning over facist nationalism!
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 09:54 PM
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8. Or Vice Versa in Disguise - It's Sincere Propaganda, You Know.
Sick, sad and he didn't mention the reason he proclaimed originally as to why we went into Iraq... I mean Afghanastan - WMD'S.

Our poor soldiers... At a loss for words. Disgusted w/* & CO.!
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 08:03 AM
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30. Hi YOY!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 09:47 PM
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6. nominated.
:patriot:
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 09:48 PM
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7. I fly a PEACE flag everyday and will continue to do so until
we are out of Iraq. It's getting a little ragged...maybe I'll put out a fresh one for the 4th...just for all my FREEPER neighbors. ;)
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samplegirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 10:01 PM
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Wow
very well put!
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 10:01 PM
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9. kick!
:kick:
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catnhatnh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 10:04 PM
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10. Prime Steve...
just abso-fucking-lutely Prime.....
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 10:21 PM
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11. Thanks for your nice comments, folks.
Fly your flag, however you choose. But do it. :)
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 10:27 PM
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12. Only one nitpick
That diseased fuck will NEVER, EVER be called "the president" by me. Never has, never will. He is an impostor who has degraded the office beyond redemption.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 10:37 PM
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13. Those words have NEVER escaped my mouth either.
I would cut off a leg before I ever called that illegitimate, APPOINTED piece of shit, President.
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 11:54 PM
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20. That's fair
Edited on Tue Jun-28-05 11:56 PM by Steve_DeShazer
I say "Mr. President" with clenched teeth.
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Liberal In Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 10:42 PM
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14. Nicely said. Nicely stated. Nicely done. I won't fly a flag. But that's
me.
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 11:57 PM
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21. That's how it should be.
I support your right to not fly a flag.
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kath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 11:07 PM
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15. "Our fathers both fought honorably in World War II" - umm, I'm not sure
how "honorable" Poppy was, since he bailed out of his plane early, dooming his crew to death.
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 12:06 AM
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22. I'm aware of that charge
I chose to not emphasize it when I made the comparison.

My issues with Poppy Bush go way beyond his service record, but he did actually see combat. I let him have that one for the sake of argument.

As for my dad, he was a combat engineer. Boots on the ground.
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insane_cratic_gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 11:08 PM
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16. Fly your flag upside down
If I had one (bad military family we are.. we don't have one) I'd of done it myself.
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checks-n-balances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 11:21 PM
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17. Why don't you send this to some blogs out there, like The Daily Kos?
Edited on Tue Jun-28-05 11:22 PM by checks-n-balances
Because it's that good, so the wider the audience, the better.

My sentiments exactly - excellent post!
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 12:10 AM
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23. I appreciate it
But I'm not much of a self-promoter. Feel free to use or add to my words however you see fit.
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ofrfxsk Donating Member (817 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 11:27 PM
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18. THANK YOU! You are f-ing awesome!
I so want to print this up and put it on a banner in my yard for the fourth.
I think I might just do it. I'll let you know.

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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 12:15 AM
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25. If you did that,
...you'd be the awesome one.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 11:33 PM
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19. nice response
When I heard him tell everyone to fly their flags, I thought well maybe I will; I haven't decided yet if I will fly it upside down, or with the casualty count next to it, but I will fly our flag:)
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 12:20 AM
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28. It's your flag
You've got the right. :)
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Heddi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 12:13 AM
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24. Do you mind if I post this in my online journal?
I'll obviously give you DU Screen-Name writing credits and I'll PM you a link to my blog.

This is excellent writing. I completely nominated this for the front page.

I'm not of your generation---several decades younger than you, actually. But this is a really powerful peice and I think you summed up what people NEED to hear in the language and vernacular they can understand.

Great, great work.
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 12:18 AM
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27. Not at all.
Please do. Feel free.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 12:17 AM
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26. I'd fly mine but it blew down so I trashed it!
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 02:57 AM
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29. I, too, fly my flag in honor of the AUTHENTIC Americans...
He may have been able to steal two elections, but he'll never be able to steal the heart and the soul of the American people. NGU!

peace.
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 08:24 AM
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31. Steve
If you read this post, I'm asking you to send this piece as an "open letter to Washington D.C. papers, the Houston Chronicle, Kennebunkport, Maine paper, Austin, TX and Crawford, TX papers. And, perhaps even shop it around as an Op-ed piece to some media outlets. This is one of the best letters I have read that sums up what, I hope, all of us feel. It's great. And, it needs to be distributed across the country, and in places that Shrub might actually see it. Send it to Conyers, too. Maybe he'll read it on the house floor next chance he gets.
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sunnystarr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 09:06 AM
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32. I second that ... and was just gonna type it.
Absolutely fantastic job! It should be printed everywhere.
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SuperCUBE Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 10:13 AM
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33. *clappy clap clap*
A wonderful post. Well done.
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democratic veteran Donating Member (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 11:14 AM
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34. 9-11
Yes fly the flag of Our Republic. Never forget that it was the Republicans who failed to defend us on 9-11. Keep reminding all the right wingers who bring it up. When they talk of all the 'evidence' for the war, remind them that yes, all the evidence said "Osama bin Laden Determined to Attack Inside the United States."
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 07:57 PM
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46. Yes, 9/11 happened on Bush's watch. Yes, he ignored the NSA memo.
You're damned right I won't forget. :grr:
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Democracy White Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 12:30 PM
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35. I don't have a flag
But for those of you who do. Fly it with the pride of being an American. Fly it for the people who have died for our cause. I'm talking like the Civil War. Fly it for our Veterans who have gone through so much shit and served our country. Fly it for the Iraqis who have died in shut a shameful war.

I know this may sound a bit freeprish to you, but hey we got to take our flag back from these fascist neocons.

Dee
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 08:00 PM
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47. Not 'freeprish' at all.
Dee, you have it right!
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Democracy White Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 01:27 PM
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57. Hey thanks!!!
I needed that, really. I've been in a brain fog for quite a while now and am having a hard time articulating what's on my mind.

Dee
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GeekMonkey Donating Member (418 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 12:31 PM
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36. Hell yes! Fuck you governor bush!
And its DOUBLE-U, not DUBYA, you ignorant prick!
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yy4me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 01:48 PM
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37. profound and sad
Steve, This is one of the best expressions of any type that I have seen regarding the president and this country. I am a 62 years old just retired and feel I have seen a lot in my time. Nothing like this current government. We went through Vietnam, a horrible, unjust war, and hoped to never see anything like it again. We now face this mess in Iraq that we all know has no end in sight. In the meantime, everything here at home goes to hell in a hand basket. Of course, not if you are big business, however. While Bush and company find billions of dollars for this unjust war, can someone explain to me why we had money for war but not for health care? My health insurance runs out next month. I will get a little over $500 from Social Security, Blue Cross has quoted me $719.00 per month for insurance. Anyone see a problem with this math? I have already decided that I have to go back to work. There are millions of us in the same boat. Health care should be an American right, not just something available as a benefit if you are working or if you are rich. Many like me worked all our lives(except for a few years to raise kids) and quess what. We're tired. And the government thinks its OK to reduce Social Security benefits? What does George think Social Security is, the million dollar lottery that we all win? We paid in and will get a paltry sum in return. Meanwhile the war consumes billions. Anyone remember Eisenhower's speech about the military industrial complex? Rings true. Thanks for your eloquent thoughts and for allowing this granny to vent!
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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 04:39 PM
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43. Welcome to DU, yy4me!
Edited on Wed Jun-29-05 04:41 PM by I Have A Dream
:hi:

I'm sorry that you have been so affected by the lunatic actions of the current regime. My heart hurts for you...
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 08:13 PM
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49. yy4me, thank you so very much for what you've said here.
Your situation with Social Security and health care is all too common. My wife and I are in our fifties and will face what you are facing all to soon.

Are folks like you and me wrong to expect more from our government? I don't think so.
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yy4me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 01:53 PM
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38. I forgot to tell you Steve,
A lot of people in my town feel just as you do, yesterday the family and the town buried one of its own. I know this soldier believed in his government. Thats a consolation to his family, I guess.
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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 04:42 PM
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44. Absolutely wonderful! Nominated & kicked.
:kick:
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 01:56 PM
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39. And, now that bin Laden is apparently leading the attacks in Iraq
according to you, at least, Mr. Bush, do you now care about where he might be?

Because, I know that before, after the attacks of 9/11 and just before your Iraq mess started, you told us that you don't really think about or care where he is.

Do you now?
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Gronk Groks Donating Member (582 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 03:08 PM
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40. Democratic Veteran and I fly the flag everyday...
Drives the neighborhood freepers crazy.

For the fourth I think I'll put up a sign with the total of the American dead stating, "When will it end?" to get the point across...

:beer:
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stevietheman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 04:10 PM
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41. "Folks are starting to think you're in over your head."
Starting to think? Starting to think?!?

Otherwise, a GREAT letter.
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 08:16 PM
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50. Well, there are a lot of folks just starting to think that.
Sounds like you and I have gone way past that.

Stevie IS the man.
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toey Donating Member (568 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 04:23 PM
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42. beautiful
just beautiful
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kennyboy67 Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 05:11 PM
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45. "I'm flying my flag July 4, Mr. President."
One of the best posts I have ever read. Thank you for sharing your thoughts with so many people who feel the same way.

Well said my friend!!!!
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 08:17 PM
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51. Welcome, kennyboy67
Come out and tell us how YOU feel. :)
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Oldtimeralso Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 08:00 PM
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48. I'm flying my flag also
I am flying my flag as a symbol of this great country!
...not the evil, vile government.
I am flying my flag for the men and women that have suffered and died to defend the freedoms that my country REALLY stands for!
...not some chicken hawk politicians ideas of freedoms or is that freedooms.
This July Fourth I am flying a special American Flag, not one flown over the Capitol Building but one flown over the office of the last freely elected President of the United States,
William Jefferson Clinton.
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 08:19 PM
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52. You've got it!
Welcome. Keep speaking out, your country needs you.
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 08:22 PM
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53. Thank you.
I live in a military town and have family that have served, both past and present. I will also be flying my flag on the Fourth, as I do on every holiday that is recommended. I do not fly out of support for him. I fly for support of our troops, our citizens and my family (those who are living and those who are no longer here w/ us).
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 08:26 PM
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54. I'm flying mine for these guys...
http://www.thememoryhole.org/war/wounded/gallery.htm

Thank god my son isn't one of them,and I pray we get out of this fiasco before he becomes a statistic...
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 08:31 PM
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55. Right on
Great reminder.
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 08:54 PM
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56. Great post,Steve
I sent this to everyone I know-especially my former GOP,veteran of 2 wars dad,who is now a democrat(and a patriot)
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