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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 06:30 PM
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Dorkface's approval rating will go up 5 points after the speech
Here's why..

The media has been spinning it all week as a "pivotal" speech, and keeps telling us how IMPORTANT it is..and how his approval has been slipping..

They are trying to make people feel sorry for him..

.....and no doubt, they (and their pollsters) know precisely just which people to poll after the speech, so that it looks like people Are buying the "load 'o crap" he's about to try and sell us.

I hope I am wrong, but I am willing to bet that all day tomorrow we will hear cherry-picked bits of the speech, with cutaways to the adoring crowd and cheering soldiers..with a liberal dose of Huuuuuuuahhhh!!...and we will be told that his numbers are headed up..and he really does loves us :)

Failing that, CNN will probably dust off "Flyboy" and show it to ua all weekend :)
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 06:34 PM
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1. I don't think so. I think they may attempt to do this but the speech
is going to be attacked on many fronts as full of platitudes, void of specifics and now that communities such as Fayetteville are divided over this war, none of that will help.
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 06:37 PM
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5. I hope that you are right.
For a good little, while there, it seemed no matter what kind of bullshit he was saying everyone just ate it up. As recently as the social security speeches...
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 06:34 PM
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2. Crap--I should have asked my dh to rent me some videos!
I pray there is something decent on cable. I can't bear another of his main stream media-spin machine, speeches. Not that I've watched many of the others...but they are truly nauseating.

Anyone that can't see through all of this, deserves to be deluded and lied to...

:grr:
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 06:52 PM
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11. Ain't that the truth !
"Anyone that can't see through all of this, deserves to be deluded and lied to..."
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BlueStateBlue Donating Member (470 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 06:35 PM
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3. It's not going to make a bit of difference in the long run
Two weeks from now it'll be back down & then some. They're sinking, and they know it.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 06:45 PM
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9. I think this is correct
Any bounce Chimpy gets from his speech tonight will be as efficacious as furiously pumping air into a leaky tire. You can get it to inflate a little bit with a great deal of effort, but ultimately, it's going to go flat.
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Kraklen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 06:36 PM
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4. eh, five meaningless points.
Nothing outside of margin of error and nothing permanent.

Abu Ghraib on thursday.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 06:43 PM
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6. I wish they had released them TODAY.. why wait til Thursday?
This is the stuff that makes me crazy.. They taunt us and taunt us and tell us WHEN they will tell us something, so by the time it arrives, lots of people have tired of the game.
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Kraklen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 06:48 PM
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10. The courts gave them time...
to pixelate peoples faces. More time was needed, you can do that kind of thing in a few hours nowadays. But that's why.
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Grateful for Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 06:43 PM
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7. Also
I remember that the media tried to convince the public that at least one of the debates was a 'draw'. This is not how the majority saw them. I don't think the media is going to pull this one off.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 06:44 PM
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8. Yep, five or less, and then a slow tanking as the next weeks go on
Its a pattern with these creatures
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gizmo1979 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 07:05 PM
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12. Not with gas going through the roof it won't.
He can moan all he wants until people see a difference at the pumps he'll stay in the dumper.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 07:06 PM
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13. Maybe
Nothing new happening in this speech.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 12:09 AM
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14. I hope you are right.. I missed it.. So I will defer to those who watched
I will watch the post mortems, and hopefully I will be wrong.. If people are paying attention, his ratings should fall another 10% due to the fact that he's just trying to manipulate people, and has nothing of substance to say :)
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 12:10 AM
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15. I hope this crap speech actually makes his numbers go down, really.
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