"Foreign Fighters" in Iraq....

[Postman]

We hear administration officials pointing out that many "foreign fighters" are coming over the border into Iraq from Syria, and that Syria needs to "tighten" its border with Iraq.

Does this mean that the government of Syria is condoning the transit of "fighters" into Iraq?

Can the US patrol its entire border region with Canada and prevent someone from entering the country?

Ensuring that no one enters a country illegally over a vast geographic area is just about an impossible task.

The rhetoric from Washington attacking Syria, as if their government is in cahoots with the insurgency in Iraq, is just that - rhetoric to take the heat off of their own incompetency in "occupying" Iraq.

Why are there not "foreign fighters" crossing over the Saudi Arabian border into Iraq? Maybe they are. We just don't get those reports because that would put public pressure on the crooks running Saudi Arabia (who happen to be friends of the Bush family)

And if Syria is such a "bad guy" in all of this, why is it they are Bush's ally when it comes to "extraordinary rendition"?

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2005/05/01/MNGE5CI9MO1.DTL

Snip:U.S. intelligence officials estimate that the United States has transferred 100 to 150 suspected terrorists to Egypt, Jordan, SYRIA, Morocco, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and Uzbekistan.

[justinsb]

1. Good point

I remember the terror base that the US was worried about in Iraq, some obscure cleric with a training base in the northern mountains. Iraq's response was "They are in the mountains in the no fly zone. We don't like them being there but we're not going to march foot soldiers into an ambush to get them. (marching into unfamiliar mountain terrain to root out trained guerilla fighters without air cover). If you want them out, you get them, you have all the planes." Washington's response was that this was further evidence of Iraq cooperating with and protecting terrorists.

[KlatooBNikto]

2. Right now the only foreign fighters in Iraq are the U.S. troops.

[IChing]

3. The news denies any border with Saudia Arabia

Yet, there is ample evidence to suggest that Saudi citizens not only cross the 475-mile-long border with Iraq in order to join the jihad against the U.S. but that they also make some of the most dangerous terrorists U.S. forces face. According to the Financial Times, up to 3,000 Saudi men have gone missing in Saudi Arabia in recent months. al-Qaeda sympathizers who have heeded calls for holy war by Osama Bin Laden and other preachers find the Saudi-Iraqi desert border easy to cross. Pressure on Islamists in Saudi Arabia since the bombings in May and November in Riyadh has increased the motivation of the jihadists to flee to Iraq's Sunni triangle in search of safe houses. Back in August, a number of Saudis were captured seeking to attack American troops in Iraq. Iraqi policeman guarding a checkpoint outside the Baghdad Hotel on October 12, testified that the suicide bomber who blew up the hotel killing eight people chatted with him in a dialect of Arabic which sounded Saudi or Yemenite. The more recent suicide attack, on October 27, against the Red Cross headquarters and three police stations in Baghdad was carried out by four bombers, at least two of which appear to have been Saudis.

Despite evidence that some of the most dangerous and suicidal Arab terrorists come in from Saudi Arabia, Washington still refuses to publicly discuss the role of Saudis in the Iraqi insurgency or refer to Saudi Arabia in the same tone and wording used in the case of Iran and Syria.

They have a teleport machine the klingons gave them to come in from Syria.
Do you believe propaganda when you read it
or is logic no longer valid?


http://www.iags.org/n0121042.htm





There is no doubt that many come from Syria
but also there is nothing on the news about the Saudia border.

[dutchdemocrat]

4. IRAQ: STATS ON FOREIGN MILITANTS SHOW SAUDIS DOMINATE

IRAQ: STATS ON FOREIGN MILITANTS SHOW SAUDIS DOMINATE

Washington, 22 June (AKI) - A survey on casualties of foreign insurgents active in Iraq show that more than half of them are Saudi citizens, while the next most populous group is Syrian militants, at 13 percent, and Kuwaitis following with 5.3 percent. The data, compiled by a prominent US al-Qaeda and terror expert, Evan Kohlmann, is based on the known nationalities of 300 foreign insurgents killed fighting the US-led forces or in suicide attacks between June 2003-June 2005. While most of the foreign militants who died are from neighbouring Arab nations, a few are also from European countries .

"We gathered data based not just based on the state,emts amd lists published on Islamist internet forums," Kohl told Adnkronos International (AKI) "but also comparing this to information supplied by the American military and other allied nations and information in the mass media."

The strong Saudi presence among the 'martyrs' in Iraq indicates that despite a Fatwa against imams who seek to recruit or encourage youngsters to take part in Jihad in Iraq recruitment in the oil-rich kingdom is continuing.

Among those listed on Kohlmann's site, Globalterroralert.com, are three each from Italy and France and one each from the United Kingdom, Denmark and Spain. "They are almost always Arab immigrants who were living in Europe and then departed for Iraq" said Kohlmann.

He cited the 'Italian' deaths as Rihani Lotfi, a Tunisian who died in a suicide bomb attacks in September 2003 along with two Moroccans, Kamal Morchidi (Morocco) and Hamsi Said, who lived in northern Italy. The three names were already known to investigators in Italy, where recent inquiries have uncovered various al-Qaeda-linked cells, mainly dedicated to recruitment and logistic support,

"Italian military intelligence believes that at least five Muslims recruited in Italy have died in Iraq, most of them recruited in Milan and most in suicide attacks against American troops" said Kohlmann.

However, he said he had not included other Italian residents on his list because he did not have "sufficient information about them".

http://www.adnki.com/index_2Level.php?cat=Terrorism&loid=8.0.179552768&par=0

[gulliver]

5. Framing again

They are "foreign fighters" crossing into Iraq to fight Americans, not foreign terrorists setting up new terrorist bases in Iraq. The former implies that the flypaper strategy is working. The latter implies that we have lost territory to terrorists. I believe the latter.

And you are right, they never seem to be Saudis. Amazing.