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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 03:12 PM
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Abandoned Wal-Marts - national list & photos.
Edited on Thu Jun-16-05 03:31 PM by paineinthearse
There are scores of instances where Sprawl-Mart comes into a town, builds a store, devastates the local economy, then abandons the store, perhaps in favor of a larger, regional "super store", which in turn put more local businesses out of business.

In an earlier thread - http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph... - DU's assistance was requested. Thanks to all who replied.

A list of closed/abandoned stores is at http://www.walmartmovie.com/abandoned.php


You can see where the abandoned stores are on the map by looking at the red squares. The green dots are people who have signed up on the site.

Please review the list. If you find anything wrong or missing, contact info@walmartmovie.com or 800-525-8212

On behalf of the Brave New Films, thanks for the assistance.

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losdiablosgato Donating Member (649 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 03:14 PM
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1. There is an abandoned one near my house
They closed to open a bigger one a few blocks down.
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 03:17 PM
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3. Have you looked at the list?
Go to http://www.walmartmovie.com/abandoned.php for the current list. If not there, please forward to the "info@" email address.
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losdiablosgato Donating Member (649 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 03:22 PM
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8. It is on the list
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MemphisTiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 03:21 PM
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6. We've had a few of those.
A huge building that is good for nothing else but a walmart just sits there. I feel bad for the other merchants that were in the same strip mall next to it banking on the traffic from walmart customers
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 03:17 PM
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2. And every "red square" is accompanied by a host of
closed down small businesses that could not hold on long enough :(
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 03:21 PM
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5. So are the green dots
You even been to Crescent City, California?

Ye gods... the place got hit with a tsunami (in addition to having an actual, literal large wave hit the town).


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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 03:20 PM
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4. sterling ill
big lots uses half of the old wal-mart building,new one down the road. an interesting thing is that there is another walmart two miles away that was one of the orignal sized stores and was built long ago..they wanted to close it but it was making to much money.
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 03:22 PM
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7. Much like a plague of locusts
Devastate the local area and when there is no sustenance remaining, move on...
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 03:24 PM
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9. My bad
Edited on Thu Jun-16-05 03:26 PM by XemaSab
Ah ok, I get it, but there should be more abandoned stores in California.
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JohnnyRingo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 03:27 PM
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10. There will be a new red square in Warren Ohio this year
Edited on Thu Jun-16-05 03:27 PM by JohnnyRingo
Wal Mart's scorched earth marketing leave a blight on every community they infest.

No retailer in their right mind will inhabit a boarded up WalMart as the chain will use their deep pockets to temporarily cut prices and drive them out of business.

I'll never set foot in a WalMart for the rest of my life.
There are alternatives.
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KT2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 03:27 PM
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11. Too early to be red
but they are ready to abandon a store in Port Angeles WA (NW Washington) and build another one across the street. The site they are moving to is where a K Mart closed.
The store they will close had huge water problems so I can't imagine what will ever become of it.

I heard that Wal-Mart closes a set percentage of the poorest performing store every year. Abandoning communities after they have devastated them is part of the business plan as I understand it.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 12:27 PM
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24. maybe, but I think most of the places on the list
simply have new Wal-marts or bigger Wal-marts.
Richland Center, Wi got a new larger Wal-mart and a Farm and Fleet moved into the old one. Of course, Farm and Fleet may have been the nail in the coffin for Keegan's, a third generation downtown business that sold supplies to farmers. The downtown hardware store folded in the mid 1990s and the Schultz's that was downtown closed when that chain went broke regionally.

Marysville and Hays, Kansas are on the list, but I saw the new Wal-mart in Hays a couple weeks ago, and Wal-mart on-line tells me there is a new one in Marysville too.

The new ones always seem to be further from the town, sprawling over former farmland and adding to the driving time and gasoline used by their shoppers. The save time part of their advertising does not work when you have the longer drive, the walk across their huge and hectic parking lot and then the long wait in their check-out lines.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 03:33 PM
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12. Thanks for the link. I didn't know this.
I'd like to see more abandoned Mao-Marts too.

:D
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LouKYDem Donating Member (164 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 03:34 PM
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13. Don't know if it is mentioned on there...
I didn't look on that site a whole lot, so I don't know if this is mentioned there, but often times, Walmart will hold on to their lease on these old stores for years or decades after the store closes to prevent competition from coming in to those stores... of course, they don't mind allowing economy boosters like flea markets and bingo halls subleasing the stores from them...
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AUYellowDog Donating Member (313 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 03:40 PM
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14. There are
2 old Wal-Marts within 2 miles of eachother in Opelika Alabama, one maybe 2 blocks from the current location. One rents out to flea markets. I don't know if they use the other for anything anymore. I think there was a carnival in the parking lot a few weeks ago. Yay Alabama.

Brandon
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Obamanaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 03:42 PM
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15. We're getting a Target
in an abandoned KMart super center store in my small town. Heard about it today at lunch. People talking at lunch about how nice it will be to have another choice, other than Walmart - the only other store here except for a couple of small shops barely hanging on.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 03:43 PM
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16. I hope they also include film of the devastation in downtown areas
so that folks will get the point that by the time they leave, they leave nothing.

This is a medium sized city with two Home Depots and half a dozen SprawlMarts. One thing you can't find in this town is a hardware store.

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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 04:09 PM
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18. That is an excellent idea.
I've asked the producers to monitor this thread, and even to join DU so they can post answers I do not know.
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newportdadde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 03:49 PM
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17. Does this include stores that sold but are still empty?
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 05:05 PM
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19. Yes, I believe so.
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jgilliam Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 10:56 PM
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22. no, doesn't include sold stores that are still empty
and it also doesn't include stores that are empty that wal-mart isn't even trying to sell. so if you know of one in your area not on this list, then please let me know.

we basically just went through wm's real estate listings, and tried to figure out the ones that were actually abandoned... a lot of the stores for sale/lease are still operating, and won't be available until the new (bigger) store is finished being built...

Jim Gilliam (the producer)

and thanks for all of your help!

You can see a flickr gallery of the photos people have been taking. pretty cool (or depressing, depending on how you look at it)..

http://www.flickr.com/photos/walmartmovie/tags/abandone... /

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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 05:08 PM
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20. My husband parks his truck in the parking lot of this abandoned Walmart
Edited on Thu Jun-16-05 05:10 PM by cynatnite
http://www.flickr.com/photos/walmartmovie/sets/455962 /

Just to add that this place is a parking lot. There are always trucks and cars using it.

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Gold Metal Flake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 05:57 PM
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21. Shocking. Think of each red square as a bomb.
Walmart is an invading horde, plundering our communal wealth and destroying our small communities. People must find a way to bring their economies local. I believe that part, just a part, of the Walmart plan is to drive the populace to cities where they can be more efficiently exploited and to prevent smaller communities from regrouping around a localized economy such as those that existed in the early 20th century.
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 11:42 AM
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23. .
:kick:
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