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jenk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 11:44 PM
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comparing Bush now to Clinton in 96
Some people claim that Clinton's numbers were around the same as Bush's, but they were in fact rising. Is this true?

I do remember alot of optimism by the repugs up until maybe 4-5 months before the election, they thought they had Bill on the ropes. But Dole just sort of flatlined. Anybody remember the specifics? What was his campaign built around? How did he try to attack Clinton when the economy was so good and we were in peacetime.
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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 11:50 PM
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1. Dole never led the race at all
And by the end of 1995 it was clear that Dole was not going to win. The "Republican Revolution" had fizzled out by then. The Government Shutdowns took their toll and the GOP's numbers never recovered after that point.
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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 11:51 PM
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2. Such a different time....
I remember Saturday Night Live running comedy sketches with all of the Repugs in the primary arguing over who could get beat worse by Bush.

Bob Dole: "Nominate me, I will get my ass kicked a lot harder than the rest of these idiots."


That was January of 96.

The truth is that Clinton was in trouble (The only other time than the Lewinsky scandal) in 94. By 96 he was unbeatable.
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jeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 11:51 PM
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3. That's the new spin...
That Bush's numbers are the same or better than Clinton's or Reagan's at the same point in their administration. Problem with that though is this:

Clinton's numbers had dropped in 1994 (due to endless Whitewater coverage) and were on the rise again by the end of the year. Reagan's numbers had dropped (due to the massive recession in 81-82) and were on the rise again.

Bush's numbers are falling.

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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 11:52 PM
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4. There is no comparison between Bush now and Clinton in 95
It's two diametrically (spelling) opposed worlds at this point in time. There are no valid comparisons that can be made.
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Robin Hood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 12:01 AM
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5. Check this out.
http://www.iespell.com . I use it all the time. BTW, you spelled it right. And i couldn't agree with you more, there is no comparison.
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rads Donating Member (54 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 12:19 AM
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6. When in doubt
Always check out Pollkatz.



Yes, at this point Bush was ahead of Reagan and Clinton. But Clinton and Reagan were rising while Bush is dropping like a rock on Jupiter. In fact, by the looks of things within about a month or so the numbers will have crossed over and they won't be able to spout this crap anymore.

The trend is your friend, and without a big reversal Bush is going to have a rough road.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 07:22 AM
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7. Hi rads!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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kutastha Donating Member (400 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 07:34 AM
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8. Yes
>>without a big reversal Bush is going to have a rough road.<<

This is the frightening part. Will the public see through whatever this administration decides to pull?
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OneTwentyoNine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 08:11 AM
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9. Hope Bush isn't looking at this chart...
Only one thing to do,let 3,000 more die in a terrorist attack while keep all the military aircraft grounded.

David
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