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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 09:30 PM
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Krugman worked for Reagan?
Edited on Mon Sep-22-03 09:49 PM by The Doctor
Whoa. He worked in the Reagan admin.

Edit - much better. Apologies, esp to Dr. Krugman, our most vocal spokesperson.
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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 09:33 PM
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1. Hehe, I was wondering how long it would take for someone to point that out
I guess I know now. How right you are.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 09:34 PM
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2. That's hard to fathom! I would have thought Krugman would
have been a Dem all the way back!
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 09:36 PM
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5. No shit
I read the Guardian article today about the death threats he's been getting. It stated clearly that he is "no left winger" and "worked in the Reagan administration".

SO I guess there is ONE Repub with integrity.
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 09:34 PM
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3. I'm not so sure....he said he was one of many "recruited" and he
Edited on Mon Sep-22-03 09:37 PM by Gloria
didn't exactly enjoy the experience. I can't remember which little niche he worked in...In fact, he told Charlie Rose that people shouldn't assume that people in the gov't offices dealing with economic issues know anymore than the average person!! That was 20 years ago...I wouldn't assume he's a Republican now. He probably isn't wedded to any one party...he's married to his economic beliefs more than anything else. He says he hasn't really changed them all that much over the years....
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priller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 10:28 PM
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25. Yeah, he was dismayed by the experience
He said, "The economic thinking at the highest levels of government was pretty low." He was shocked at how much politics intruded into economic and other policy decisions. And that was with Reagan, which was bad enough, but's 10x worse with Shrub.
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 09:35 PM
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4. Krugman isn't running for President
so it doesn't matter in the same way it does with Clark. With clark it matters because it is important for us to know we can trust him to represent Democratic party values. If Clark is going to do that then he can prove it and we will all be happy with his candidacy. But he gets no free ride.........but good try.
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LittleDannySlowhorse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 09:39 PM
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10. As far as I'm concerned,
the fact that Krugman wrote "The Great Unraveling" is enough for me to forgive him his "youthful indiscretions."
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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 09:36 PM
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6. He worked in Reagan's admin but he's a Dem
He was soured by the economic policies of Reagan's staff economists. I am trying to find a link-will post when I do.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 09:37 PM
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9. OK
Thanks, that makes alot more sense. Also, HE makes alot more sense than any Repub I've ever encountered
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 09:37 PM
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7. Krugman is not a Republican
He worked for Reagan's administration because a colleague asked him to. He wanted to work for Clinton's administration as well.
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Raenelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 09:37 PM
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8. Was, not is. Things change. People change.
Especially over a couple of decades.
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roughsatori Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 10:02 PM
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20. He WAS and IS a Democrat
Even if he had been a repuke, he is not running for president.
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 09:40 PM
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11. Uh, that's a bit of a simplification -- verging on distortion
Edited on Mon Sep-22-03 09:42 PM by scarletwoman
He spent a year on the STAFF of the Council of Economic Advisers early in the Reagan adminstration.

Here are the facts:

A Small Correction

SYNOPSIS: Krugman corrects the misconception that he was a member of Reagan's Council of Economic Advisors. He was on the Council's staff. This piece has some good personal anecdotes


I've now seen several pieces with a small misstatement about my career. For once it's not a malicious thing, just an error. But I'd like to correct it - and tell the slightly interesting story that goes with it.

The error is the statement that I was on Reagan's Council of Economic Advisers. I wasn't - I was on the Council's staff. That's a significant difference. Council members are political appointees; they are expected togive speeches defending the administration's policies, and so on. Staff positions are, in principle, civil service jobs. Admittedly, in practice the Council's staff tends to reflect the ideology of its bosses, except in special cases. And my time there was a peculiar special case. Here's the story.

In the summer of 1982 the Reaganites panicked: the US economy was in a tailspin, the Latin debt crisis was exploding, and they briefly worried about economic disaster. So they called in a moderate Republican with sterling credentials, Martin Feldstein, to head the CEA. Feldstein in turn decided that he wanted a team of whiz-kids, so he brought a group of Cambridge-based young people down with him. To lure his top picks, he created two "super-staff" positions: domestic and international policy economist. The domestic policy economist was a guy named Larry Summers; I wonder what happened to him? I was the international economist.

A funny story: we weren't on the White House payroll. For obscure political reasons, many White House staffers were paid by other agencies, then seconded to the WH. I got my paychecks from the Maritime Administration; Feldstein occasionally called me "midshipman".

Larry and I made no secret of the fact that we were Democrats. So why did I do it? Not for career purposes, at least not in the narrow sense: I already had tenure, and what I needed to rise in the academic world was more technical papers, not a behind-the-scenes role in Washington. (My academic reputation - and my Clark Medal - are the result of a baker's dozen of theoretical papers on international trade, currency speculation and crises, economic geography, and macroeconomics.) Mainly I thought it would be interesting - a chance to see how the alleged real world works. And it was. As it happened, the politics were not a problem: since my job required no public defense of the administration, it was all internal stuff; Feldstein was to my right, but to the left of almost everyone else in the administration, so I never found myself having to defend a position I didn't support.


http://www.pkarchive.org/personal/SmallCorrection.html

How about you check your facts first before you go off half-cocked?

sw
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 09:42 PM
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14. Hey, I already was corrected
and submitted a mea culpa.
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 09:53 PM
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18. I was busy FACT CHECKING, so I didn't see the correction until after
I posted.

And your new subject line is still misleading. He wasn't hired by the Reagan administration, he worked as a staff person DURING the Reagan administration, hired by a fellow economist.

sw
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stevebreeze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 09:40 PM
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12. hey I voted for Reagan....but I'm feeling much better now
:kick:
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roughsatori Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 10:03 PM
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21. You shouldn't feel any better, he was and is a Democrat NT
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WillyBrandt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 09:41 PM
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13. False
Krugman is not, and never was -- as far as I know -- a Republican. He has expressed admiration for how Sweden's social system is set up.

He is a liberal. But he is not a leftist: on the contrary, he's a brilliant orthodox economist who is isn't sucked into the anti-Free Trade arguments. And that's one reason he drives the wingnuts, well, nuts: he uses standard economic thinking to prove the foolishness and mendacity of their schemes.

Look, folks, not everyone who works for a given administration, especially in pretty minor posts, is of the same party. Man.
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Merlin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 09:43 PM
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15. He's sure no Republican now.
Edited on Mon Sep-22-03 09:53 PM by Merlin
This is one of the great voices of sustained integrity in American history. He has stood in the prow of the ship and called out its true bearings during one of the worst storms we have ever had to weather.

Krugman is a man for the ages.
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WillyBrandt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 09:46 PM
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16. KRUGMAN NEVER WAS A REPUBLICAN
Man, talk about guilt by association.

Read Peddling Prosperity by Krugman sometime. You'll find no end of attack on the rightwing in the US and UK.
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Merlin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 09:48 PM
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17. Thank you for pointing this out. And I love your moniker.
Welcome to DU. Willy was a great man.
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Merlin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 09:54 PM
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19. Thanks, Doc, for the edit. n/t
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Unknown Known Donating Member (829 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 10:06 PM
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22. Krugman is a hero
He's saying things nobody wants to hear, but I fear he is right in his assessments. Our grandchildren will be paying for this mess. He is up against GIANTS!
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soleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 10:08 PM
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23. Hillary Clinton worked for Goldwater
go figure
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MrPrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 10:19 PM
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24. He has also consulted Enron
...but at least he admitted it in one of his columns and it was a few years ago
and after all he is an academic, first and foremost
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seasat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 11:13 PM
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26. Maybe he had some influence on Reagan.
Joshua Green had a great article on Reagan which make you realize how far to the right the current administration has gone.

Reagan's Liberal Legacy

Reagan expanded the EITC and cut out a number of corporate loopholes. Read the article, you'll realize how radical the Shrub administration is. Maybe Krugman had some influence.

(BTW, not defending Reagan's trickle down economics policies, they were a crock)
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