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AWD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 08:23 PM
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Rather have a McGovern than a McSenator
.....just one of the pack.

Need that war vote? Call on McSenator!

White House needs a buddy from the left side of the aisle? Call on McSenator!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 09:24 PM
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1. LOL!
"McSenator"! :D
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 09:32 PM
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2. Here's your mirror...From MWO
Edited on Mon Sep-22-03 09:35 PM by blm
"wingnuts, who tend not to be the sharpest knives in the drawer and who become unhinged when frightened, will fail to distinguish between a "resolution" and a "war" - and are attempting..."

>>>>>
Fortunately, after the Democrats succeeded in formulating a coherent manner in which to clarify legitimate, complex positions media whores might otherwise succeed in painting as "inconsistencies" (Mickey Kaus still tries, God bless him), most American voters now "get it."

Nevertheless, wingnuts, who tend not to be the sharpest knives in the drawer and who become even less hinged when frightened, will fail to distinguish between a "resolution" and a "war" - and are attempting to paint comments by four-star-General Clark and war hero Senator Kerry as inconsistent.
>>>>


btw...Dean supported Bush on Yucca Mt. and Sierra Blanca. He also supported Bush OVER Gore and Kerry when asked about their criticisms of Bush's military strategy in July, 2002 on MTP. Of course, that's when he was still running from the "Republican wing of the Democratic party."
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AWD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 09:39 PM
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4. Oh, I see...
....better tell those soldiers dying that they're not there fighting a war, they're fighting a resolution.

Kerry signed the blank check. Calling do-overs or 'oopsies' will not suffice.

Take your McSenator and try again.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 10:31 PM
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13. Do you plan to go to Congress and refuse to negotiate
to get the better deal when it falls on you to do so?

Do you plan to be derelict of duty when faced with the choice of giving Bush the REAL blank check he wants or getting that better deal?

Would it have pleased you more if NO Democratic lawmaker negotiated and Bush NEVER went to the UN with his evidence (which helped sink his credibility now), put inspectors back in, and allowed Bush to bomb Syria and Iran after the fall of Baghdad?
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HazMat Donating Member (318 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 10:57 PM
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18. Iraq resolution had nothing to do with the invasion
The resolution was about getting leverage with Saddam, to get inspectors back into the UN. Based on the evidence, the Democrats who voted in favor of the Iraq resolution did right thing. Bushco alone is responsible for misleading the congress and the American people.

Oh and while we're on the topic, the self proclaimed conservative Dean was skiiing while many more died in Vietnam, while many protested against the same war. Dean skiied, people died.
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 09:40 PM
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5. y'know, blm
you're really not doing Dennis any favors.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 10:35 PM
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14. What does that have to do with MWO?
Because MWO mocks those who don't understand the difference between a resolution and war?

Mocking Kerry is good for.....?
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 10:48 PM
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16. ?
What does that have to do with MWO

Or with the price of tea in China, for that matter...

I'm not mocking anyone, but I don't worship MWO either. Sorry.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 10:52 PM
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17. But, you show disdain for a post
that calls out someone for mocking Kerry?

Fair and balanced, eh?
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 11:02 PM
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19. please find a post of mine
where I've offered to be "fair and balanced".

You've taken every conceivable opportunity, plus some, to hammer on Dean. Such is your right, but don't pretend to the "fair and balanced" holiness after doing so. If you're gonna be partisan, lose the martyr complex and be partisan.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 11:03 AM
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24. I state repeatedly what his position is or has been -
Is that hammering? Using a candidate's own political words, positions, and actions past and present is "hammering" to you?

I stress that he is a compromising centrist being lauded by the same people who vilified other politicians for any perceived compromise.

What about my posts have ever been unfair in the political arena?
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 09:32 PM
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3. McAwesome McDude
I look at it this way - Bush is killing himself slowly with the shenigans going on in DC. Rate Bush is going McGovern could get the nomination and beat Bush!
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 09:45 PM
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6.  VP Ford took over for the disgraced Nixon and finished out his term.
One would of thought Carter would beat Ford and the GOP in a landslide. It was too close for comfort.
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 10:20 PM
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10. someone in LBN said Carter had a 22% lead after the Dem convention
and look how frightneningly close that election turned out. :shrug:
I'll take Kerry's 2 points better-than-Dean in today's poll thank you.
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Nazgul35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 10:17 PM
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9. ahhhh...I see....
since there are soo many Dean supporters as opposed to Kerry supporters, we dilute the talent.....clever, I guess I didn't think of that cause i'm an idiot.....too many people, raising too much cash working too hard for their candidate....

Would these be the same Dem political tactics that have brought us to this wonderful time in our nation's history?
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 10:42 PM
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15. It wasn't the Dems who ran Nader
and it wasn't the Dems who disenfranchised 50,000 Forida voters or whatever the hell obscene number it was.
Now what were you saying?....
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 10:21 PM
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11. Mona Charen, right!?
A slip?
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AWD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 11:34 PM
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22. Thank you
Whatyou meant as an insult, I take with great pride.

I do believe Dean and I have an equal chance of getting elected.

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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 10:16 PM
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8. So Who's the McSenator?
Edited on Mon Sep-22-03 10:18 PM by UTUSN
I voted for the McLoser McGOVERN. btw


AND I'M *STILL* PISSED. (Talk about not getting over it.)
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 10:29 PM
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12. Wrote McG a Letter, Said DROP OUT
Said, you're NOBLE, you're GOD, so DROP OUT so somebody can BEAT NIXON!!!!

His staff answered, SIGNED BY HIM, "I think I UNDERSTAND the issues that I have a GOOD CHANCE to win, so. ...."

Wish I had kept the letter.
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HazMat Donating Member (318 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 11:04 PM
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20. too bad you didn't keep the letter,
we could've sent it to sheeple-powered Howard.

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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 11:10 PM
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21. Btw, I Would STILL Vote for McG KNOWING I Would Lose
Edited on Mon Sep-22-03 11:18 PM by UTUSN
Wish that all the (ALSO) idealists TODAY would ALSO vote for the Dem who might win TODAY.
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AWD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 11:36 PM
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23. Don't argue with a broken record
...it won't be able to change it's tune until Karl Rove changes it for them.
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