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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 06:56 PM
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FBI SOUGHT CLAMP ON BUSH STORIES
"White House and network reporters as well as U.S.-based foreign journalists are using national security leaks to pursue proposed stories about George W. Bush's reputed relationship with a male sex-mate since his college days up to now. So contends the Federal Bureau of Investigation, in a Justice Department request to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act secret court that met in sound-proof facilities in the Justice Department Building, Washington, D.C.

The Bush reputed male sex-mate details have enabled Red China, perceived by some as a sworn enemy of the U.S., and others reportedly to blackmail or otherwise unlawfully compromise the current occupant and resident of the White House, causing the disclosure of U.S. industrial, financial, and military secrets. Various reporters, including those of British Broadcasting Company, BBC, and Canadian Broadcasting Company, CBC, have, on their own, verified and corroborated the exclusive stories by this reporter as to the Bush relationship causing a breach itself by Bush of national security."

http://www.skolnicksreport.com/ootar17.html
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DEMActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 06:59 PM
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1. Skolnick is a whack job from hell
credibility isn't even in this man's dictionary.
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 07:02 PM
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4. Maybe...
But he sure is fun to read.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 09:02 PM
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51. He was on here a while back
as "rebel soldier" or some such.

Is he still considered to be a "fellow DUer"?
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greatauntoftriplets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 07:01 PM
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2. The "current occupant of the White House", LOL.
So I assume that it is the taxpayers and not * himself who is footing the bill for the blackmail.
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 08:58 PM
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49. Yeah, I have on occasion referred to him as WHO --
White House Occupant.

Eloriel
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 01:12 AM
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57. RS = Resident Select. EBS = Executive Branch Squatter.
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 07:01 PM
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3. Bush and Bath, sitting in a tree?
B-O-M-B-I-N-G?

:shrug:

funny, the feds go after Clinton to 'prove' a hetero affair, then do the opposite for the chimp... typical...

I'll take the proverbial pinch of salt with this one, but will watch closely too. You never know when one day you'll think 'why did they say/do that', and perhaps this little tale will hold the answer

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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 07:07 PM
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9. Well
Edited on Mon Sep-22-03 07:26 PM by God_bush_n_cheney
Victor Ashe and GW were roomies together at yale, they were both on the cheerleading squad and they are both Skull and bones members. Add to this the fact that GW and Laura introduced Victor to his "wife", Victor was called the "Gay Mayor of Knoxville" and his arrest in Georgia on Lewed conduct charges. There asre a lot of Dots that point to the accusations Sherman has made. Oh did I mention my friend that lives in knoxville also says he is gay (Victor that is)and meets with GW almost 1 time a month. Google the names and find the stories...they are there.

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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 07:11 PM
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16. This is how Russell Trust keeps its members loyal
oh wait nevermind, that's a conspiracy theory, can't be true!
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 07:15 PM
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20. Yes they use....
blackmail. This is one stroy skolnick has right on the mark. I have been saying GW was gay since befor he became governor.

Here he is in drag. GW that is...in the middle in white.


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TennesseeWalker Donating Member (925 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 07:12 PM
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18. You can't spell "Victory" without Victor.
His other nickname is "Bulldog". :)
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corarose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 07:24 PM
Response to Reply #9
25. Has Jr been tested for AIDS?
Ashe died of Aids has Jr been tested for the disease.
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 07:27 PM
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28. Not the Tennis player this guy
Edited on Mon Sep-22-03 07:29 PM by God_bush_n_cheney
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corarose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 07:34 PM
Response to Reply #28
32. Oooppps. Now that looks more like Jr's type.
:kick:
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never cry wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 08:27 PM
Response to Reply #32
47. yeah, reminds him of his mommy!!
nt
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 07:53 PM
Response to Reply #28
41. I think that picture
qualifies as "lewd conduct" right there. He's got that John Wayne Gacy thing going.

And is that a lame "thumb's up" sign, or is he hitchhiking?
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corarose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 08:07 PM
Response to Reply #41
44. Damn Is that what happened to Larry Bud Mellman
He does have the Gacy thing going on.
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ignatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 10:01 PM
Response to Reply #41
53. It's his idea of foreplay.
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fla nocount Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 02:14 PM
Response to Reply #28
80. Hmmm. Built for comfort. Bet he was cute 30 yr.s ago.
If Shrub can maintain a loving relationship through the ravages of age maybe he does have some redeeming qualities.........nah.
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TennesseeWalker Donating Member (925 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 07:32 PM
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31. Wrong Ashe. ARTHUR Ashe died of AIDS from a blood transfusion.
Victor is the current Mayor of Knoxville, who was defeated by Albert Gore, Jr. in the REAL Presidents first bid for a Senate seat.

Victor is divorced, and has been rumored for many years to be gay. Not that there's anything wrong with that... :)
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 07:35 PM
Response to Reply #31
33. The rumors are true
100% and GW is his male sex mate...well one of them anyway.
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Cappurr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 07:02 PM
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5. Yeah....and Clinton had a black child and murdered Vince Foster
I don't know who this guy is but this sounds a bit wierd to me. I don't think Bush gives a shit about sex.....he's too stuck on himsself.
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 07:03 PM
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6. you know how you can tell this story is bogus?
What gay man would ever wanna do Georgie?

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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 07:09 PM
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12. This man would.
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 07:26 PM
Response to Reply #12
27. aww, that's mean
He looks like a nice enough fella, stop picking on him.

:spank:
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 01:36 AM
Response to Reply #12
58. If I squint my eyes,
he looks like Kennie Starr. :evilgrin:
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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 07:04 PM
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7. Ridiculous
being gay is not a security breach. At the time this supposedly started, Dubya didn't have a security clearance.
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 07:10 PM
Response to Reply #7
15. It is ongoing...
has been since they were roomies at yale.
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 07:04 PM
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8. Victor Ashe.
Long rumored to be bush's man behind the scenes.... Long time pal from the cheerleading days.

Might want to look into that.
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 07:07 PM
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10. I already have!
There is a source in Knoxville that can confirm their liasions.
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 07:08 PM
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11. I don't care, but it would be amusing in some respects.
I'm sure though that somehow the GOP would use it to attack gay people. It would, however, dampen some enthusiasm for him among a certain voter segment.
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 07:09 PM
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13. Namely the right wing
Falwell Robertson clique.
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TennesseeWalker Donating Member (925 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 07:10 PM
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14. Whaaaaaa?
Edited on Mon Sep-22-03 07:11 PM by TennesseeWalker
On edit, so the GOP really IS a "big tent" party. Maybe those Log Cabin Republican guys knew something after all. :)
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 07:11 PM
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17. Any man who has a gay friend must be gay, right?
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 07:21 PM
Response to Reply #17
23. QC
Bush is gay. As unlikely as it sounds, it is true.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 07:26 PM
Response to Reply #23
26. I don't understand the eagerness to claim him.
Isn't it bad enough that we have to claim Matt Drudge, Andrew Sullivan, and Mary Cheney?
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 07:29 PM
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29. I think the hipocracy is rich!
"I'm a don't ask don't tell kind of man" GW Bush May 2000
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Pepperbelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 07:13 PM
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19. with the dirty tricks that the righties love so well ...
this is somewhat ... delicious. If that were to become mainstreamed, our friends on the fring right would stroke out.
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 07:16 PM
Response to Reply #19
21. hey, better than oral sex from a woman who's not his wife!
I can hear their justifications now...


not that there is anything wrong with that! Just delicious hypocrisy :-)
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 07:37 PM
Response to Reply #19
36. Its not who he had sex with
Edited on Mon Sep-22-03 07:38 PM by DoYouEverWonder
It's the cheating.

Poor Laura, how humiliating it must be to live with such dark secrets.

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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 07:39 PM
Response to Reply #36
37. GW has refered to laura as ...
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Pepperbelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 07:45 PM
Response to Reply #36
39. But what we we tell the CHILDREN?????
:D
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Mikimouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 07:21 PM
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22. Hmmmmmm...
Edited on Mon Sep-22-03 07:22 PM by Mikimouse
Paula Jones, Victor Ashe. Paula Jones, Victor Ashe? Hmmmm...Fish or cut bait? While I absolutely abhor the RW's politics of personal destruction, it would be appropriate payback to see this plastered all over the media outlets, if for no other reason, just to see how Whistle -Ass responds. Let's see how he does by comparison to Mr. Clinton. Karma's hell!

On edit: Kant kontrol doze tipe-os
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 07:45 PM
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40. if this was a Clinton story, it would ALREADY be front-page
regardless of whether it's true or not!

:grr:
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Mikimouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 08:04 PM
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43. No argument here...
I just remember the shrill howling from the RW radio freakazoids after Clinton's videotaped deposition was released. I would love to see chimpy's face on national television having to answer non-scripted questions- oh joy, oh rapture! OK, I admit it, I have a mean streak a mile wide and very deep. Don't like frauds, don't like smugness in anyone, and have atendancy to wish bad things on such people. Not very mature for a man my age, but i guess it is what it is. :hippie:
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 08:27 PM
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46. not very attractive for someone my age either but I swear I would relish
watching and hearing all of the Bushbots around me choking on their own tongues trying to make excuses for Smirk*. After all the bigoted hatred they've spewed toward gays.....it would just be too sweet!
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 09:40 PM
Response to Reply #46
52. yes wouldn't it be sweet revenge.
Their heads would explode.
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zekeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 11:59 AM
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90. Fuck maturity
Bring it on! the inquisition, that is. If he has been compromised by his sexual habits and has given info to the enemy to protect his image, that is horrendous. Cheating on Laura is despicable, too. Of course, Laura cheats on herself by staying with the Chimp, so my sympathy for her is pretty short lived.
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corarose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 07:23 PM
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24. Is the sex-mate Tweety?
:kick:
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 07:30 PM
Response to Reply #24
30. AHA! NOW, it all makes sense!
:silly:
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 07:35 PM
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34. One of the places W has visited the most
Edited on Mon Sep-22-03 07:36 PM by DoYouEverWonder
since he took office is Knoxville, TN. Before 9-11 he was going there at least once a month. W and Victor Ashe go way back to Yale and Skull & Bones. Make of it what you will.


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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 07:37 PM
Response to Reply #34
35. I have stories that show since becomming Governor
Bush has been to knoxville once a month. There are purportedly pics of Bush with Ashe in a compromising position.
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TennesseeWalker Donating Member (925 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 07:42 PM
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38. Oh, now....
Home videos of Bush and the Bulldog in action? My stomach can only take so much. I've had a really good laugh with this, though... :)

Payback is a bitch, isn't it? Victor's not been such a bad guy, though...I kind of feel sorry for him for some odd reason.
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PaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 11:15 PM
Response to Reply #35
54. Get those pix
and post them...and send them to various media outlets!!
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 12:48 AM
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56. A major media outlet had them...
Unfortunately the man who had them is dead now. He dide of Anthrax. Remember Bob Stevens?
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 08:16 AM
Response to Reply #56
71. Funny how that anthrax attack
was only aimed at people who W wanted to intimidate. Gee, what a coincidence?

It was also a good excuse to close down the National Enquirer's building in Lantana with no warning and then send the FBI in to look for all those incriminating pictures Mr. Stevens was keeping in his files.

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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 08:03 PM
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42. If this were true...
I could care less, except for the fact that the lasciouvous repubs smeared one of our nation's best Presidents. It was sickening how they published every minute personal detail for all to read, in an attempt to ridicule Clinton, and with little disregard for Monica Lewinsky. I'd hate for Mr. Ashe to be treated like Lewinsky was, but have no problem with Bush getting raked over the coals for his hypocrisy.
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9215 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 08:22 PM
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45. Wasn't there something in the Washington Times about this?
Back in the late 80's or so.

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janekat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 08:39 PM
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48. Wouldn't surprise me - why else does he act so macho? n/t
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frank frankly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 09:00 PM
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50. Fabulous!
Fabulous!
Fabulous!
Fabulous!

And here I thought the only thing to do in Knoxville was go to UT games and Dollywood!
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 03:40 PM
Response to Reply #50
84. LOL
Took the word right outta my mouth. :silly:
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soleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 11:28 PM
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55. Gacey's bodies were in the basement.
Bush's are in Iraq and Afghanistan
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MrPrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 01:51 AM
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59. Suspicious...
Their are basically the same 'crank' stuff about Blair and his Cabinet...

http://www.propagandamatrix.com/blair_protection.html

"NATO boss and Blair government insider Lord Robertson has threatened to sue Scotland's leading independent newspaper over internet allegations that he not only his influence as a Freemason to procure a gun licence for child killer Thomas Hamilton, but was also a member of a clandestine paedophile ring reportedly set up by Hamilton for the British elite."

Freemasonry! Murder! and Child Molesting!!

The Brits know how to do this stuff!!
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 02:30 AM
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60. How About the Washington Times?
Edited on Tue Sep-23-03 02:55 AM by God_bush_n_cheney
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 02:36 AM
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61. Or this tidbit
George Bush, Pedophiles & The CIA
by gdy Sunday August 17, 2003 at 11:39 PM


There have been other reports suggestive of a connection between child abuse and top officials. On June 29, 1989, the Washington Times, shook the Bush White House to its very roots with the front page headline "Call Boys Took Midnight Tour of White House.'' The paper reported, ``A homosexual prostitution ring is under investigation by federal and District authorities and includes among its clients key officials of the Reagan and Bush administrations, military officers, congressional aides and U.S. and foreign businessmen with close ties to Washington's political elite.''

George Bush, The CIA, Mind Control & Child Abuse May 5, 2003 From the Streets of Little Beirut Glen Yeadon On January 28, 2003, amid the furor of the impending war with Iraq the British press briefly reported on Operation Ore, the most thorough and comprehensive police investigation of crimes against children before being squashed by the Blair government. Besides implicating Rock guitarist Peter Townsend of the Who, the report claimed that senior members of Tony Blair's government were being investigated for pedophilia and the "enjoyment" of child-sex pornography. With the investigation reaching to senior members of his Government, Blair declared a news blackout on the story. Moreover, the British report was not the first such case reported. In fact, it followed on the heels of a report from Portugal. On November 27, 2002, the press reported a scandal of pedophile ring run from a state orphanage. The Guardian reported that the scandal threatened to engulf diplomats, media personalities and senior politicians. Photographs of senior government officials with young boys from Lisbon's Casa Pia orphanage were among the evidence. More shocking however, were the revelations that systematic sexual abuse of children at the home had allegedly been going on for more than 20 years and had been known to police and other authorities for most of that time. On January 14, 2002, Insight Magazine reported the charges leveled by Ben Johnson against his employer Dyncorp, a major defense contractor. Johnson charged that officials and employees of Dyncorp were engaging in perverse, illegal and inhumane behavior and were purchasing illegal weapons, women, forged passports and participating in other immoral acts. Johnson had witnessed his supervisors and fellow employees buying 12- to 15-year-olds as sex slaves. While prostitution is the worlds oldest profession, the global sex trade is big business. The impact of illegal immigrant traffic in Canada is estimated at between $120 million to $400 million per year accounting for approximately 8,000 to 16,000 people arriving in Canada per year illegally. The estimate is from Organized Crime Impact Study, prepared for the Solicitor General of Canada. The majority of the illegal immigrants are forced into prostitution and come from Vietnam and China. Once smuggled into Canada the young girls are sold into bondage throughout a North America network. Moreover, Canada is not alone. Young Russians and Ukrainian women that wish to immigrate to Israel are often smuggled into the country destitute and at the mercy of their pimp. More disgusting is the role the United States government plays in facilitating this global sex trade. Instead of banning the previously mentioned Dyncorp from further defense contracts, the regime of George W Bush rewards it in granting major contracts for the Iraqi war. Even more shameful is the wink and nod the state department grants the Saudis. The Arabian Peninsula has long been known to be purchasers of slaves. Mostly the slaves came from India or Africa however, with the advent of the oil wealth the Saudis have became more selective and are known as high-end buyers. The Saudi Arabian Government continues to refuse to sign the United Nations treaty on slavery and extradition treaties. There have been several incidents in the past where the media has reported a slave of a Saudi prince brought into the United States escaped. The State Department then intervenes and returns the escaped slave to the Saudi prince and the incident forgotten. The State Department exempts the Saudi princes from normal custom procedures. A child slave bought by a Saudi prince can be delivered to his plane and allowed to depart without the required passport for the child. One fortunate victim that became entangled in the Saudi sex ring was the former Miss USA Shannon Marketic. She had been lured to Saudi Arabia by what she believed was legitimate modeling work. Being a high profile case she was returned to the United States and filed suit. The former Miss USA lost her lawsuit as the State department granted immunity to her abductors. Many of the pictures of the young children peering out from posters and milk cartons that have disappeared in the United States have fallen victim to this global sex trade

http://idaho.indymedia.org/news/2003/08/3583.php
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 09:24 AM
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87. The main plank of the article seems to be the 100 year ban
on the Hughes report on Hamilton in 1991. Although the article was obviously written recently, it fails to mention that the 100-year ban was lifted in March 2003, with just the names of the children involved blanked out (the original reason given for the 10-year ban was protecting the anonymity of the children). So it's not exactly an unbiased look at the facts. In fact, it's back in the realm of crank conspiracy without evidence.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 02:40 AM
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62. Yeah, we definitely don't have enough shit on these fuckers already
Let's pursue an FBI coverup about gay sex and Red China and shit.

Yeah yeah yeah.

We're totally out of other things to get them on.

Um.
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 02:54 AM
Response to Reply #62
63. Hey this is the frosting on the cake.
Edited on Tue Sep-23-03 02:55 AM by God_bush_n_cheney
Besides the speculation is fun and lightens the mood.


Edit: Besides, this has special importance to me.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 02:56 AM
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64. I hear you
:toast: to cutting this fucker to ribbons any way we can.
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 02:57 AM
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65. Whatever it takes my friend
Whatever...I want him gone and the nightmare to end! When do we get some good news for a change?
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 03:00 AM
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66. The fact that we are here, right now, right here,
putting this all together is good news.

The Nazis would never had gotten away with it had there been an Internet. Believe it.
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 03:05 AM
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67. I am glad you have your youthful optimisim...
instead of my cynicisim. I get real dis-heartened. Termites Mom called last night. Wants him to come home Friday for his birthday on Saturday. Apparently she is convinced that the rapture is Saturday.

Shit like that really depresses him and I have to deal with the emotions he is having. It is not pretty believe me. I half hope the rapture is saturday and Termite is the only one from his family taken...along with me of course O8)
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 03:06 AM
Response to Reply #67
68. Just hug him real tight
and wait to see what happens.

And you aren't much older than me, motherfucker. :)

:loveya:
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 03:08 AM
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69. Um 12 years.
Edited on Tue Sep-23-03 03:09 AM by God_bush_n_cheney
I could have changed your diapers you snotty nosed whipper snapper.

:loveya:


Hummmm on second thought....
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berry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 02:59 PM
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81. I'm inclined to agree with you--but then I wondered about the UN speech.
Could the inexplicable (because totally off-topic), long tangent on sex slaves (which I do believe is a problem that needs addressing, but not in that speech) have been a threat? Understood only by those to whom it was addressed? Fall in line, or we'll ruin you? I know it's off the wall, but Blair's behavior was so hard to comprehend at times (I wanted not to believe he was as craven as he clearly is) that I wondered what he was being blackmailed with. And blackmail needn't be true. Black ops sort of stuff could be manufactured, and public figures (like politicians) are particularly vulnerable. A credible threat to smear or worse could do a lot of damage. I'm not betting on this idea, just keeping an open mind. These criminals are capable of anything, after all.

Yeah, I know. Too tin-foily. (And not related to the topic of this thread--which would make Bush* the blackmailee. Just couldn't resist posting it though. Sorry.)
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 03:03 AM
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86. that's so wicked it could be true
The sex slaves tangent seemed oddly out of place in Bush's speech. It makes a creepy kind of sense to think of it as an implied threat of blackmail.

And given what I've just been reading about the Franklin cover-up, pedophilic blackmail seems part of their gameplan.

:tinfoilhat: + :think: = :puke:
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Beam Me Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 11:28 AM
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89. Franklin Coverup VIDEO
The video can be downloaded in three parts (Windows Media Player) from this link:

http://www.thelawparty.org/Franklincoverup.htm

While you're there, you might enjoy downloading Pelast's "Bush Family Fortunes" in four parts from this page:

http://www.thelawparty.org/TheBushFamily.htm

Let me add that I think it is very interesting that these ideas are making their way into our awareness at this time. I'm a bit suspicious of the Fraklin Coverup tape. It is edited to look 'unedited' with scratch film/video flaws. What's that all about?
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 02:26 PM
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91. The franklin coverup is real!
Google Johnny Gousch and combine it with Americas most wanted.
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neebob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 10:36 AM
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88. Okay, so Skolnick looks like a nut
Edited on Wed Sep-24-03 11:13 AM by neebob
and the pedophilia-ring thing takes it way too far out there. People who associate pedophilia with homosexuality are ignorant. But why is the basic premise about Bush and blackmail so implausible?

A few years ago, I learned up close and personal that the scene at the rest stop in the movie There's Something About Mary is, well, not just a movie. There's a whole big community of men who live with women but like to do and be done by guys on the side, and it's bigger than anyone thinks.

Go to Yahoo! personals and read the "men seeking men" section. Notice how many of the guys' ads say they're married and/or are not gay. Then, if you want to be shocked, go to cruisingforsex.com, which boasts "the world's most comprehensive list of places men cruise." (WARNING: There are ponographic images behind the entry page.) Look up your local "cruisy park" - and chances are there are more than one - and go sit there for an hour or so. Do this around 5 o'clock, and you'll see a lot of suits with their jackets off - everyday, average husbands and fathers, sitting alone in their cars. See if you can figure out why they stop at the park on the way home from work.

I had always believed the most homophobic men were just projecting, but I had no idea. For a while there, I went around going, "Is he one? Is he one? Is he one?" Now I just look askance at any man who's a little too macho.

So the idea of Chimpy having a butt buddy is not a stretch for me. And I, too, wondered about the sex-slave portion of his UN address. What was that for?

On edit: And lest anyone misinterpret my comments, I should add that my first fight with the person who led me to discover the cruising scene was about homosexuality. I said I'd march in a gay-rights parade, and he said he'd be on the other side of the street passing out pamphlets about AIDS. So I'm not anti-gay. I just have a hard time respecting promiscuous closet homosexuals who live with women and insist they're not gay. I'd never heard the phrase "butt buddy" until I met this one guy. Shoulda been my first clue.
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 03:47 AM
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70. this thread will not drop to the bottom with 69 responses.
So here is 70.
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greatauntoftriplets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 11:41 AM
Response to Reply #70
72. How about 71?
okay, here it is.
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 12:10 PM
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74. I demand a recount
Edited on Tue Sep-23-03 12:10 PM by God_bush_n_cheney
that was 72
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 11:48 AM
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73. Even a broken clock is right twice a day
Maybe bush was blackmailed into attacking Iraq (by another nation who really wanted Saddam gone), and we know without a doubt that bush is the type of slime that would allow thousands to die, and national secrets to be compromised rather than own up to anything.

Not saying I believe this, but it is believable.
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 01:43 PM
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75. kick
:kick:
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Punkingal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 01:59 PM
Response to Reply #75
77. I will seriously celebrate with you......
if this is ever exposed in the mainstream media. :toast:

:hi:
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LeftHander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 01:46 PM
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76. Bisexual drunken frat boy drives country into ditch
eom
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Punkingal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 03:33 PM
Response to Reply #76
83. Bwahahahahahahahaha!!!!
You're so funny!!!! And it's so true!!!!
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WoodrowFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 02:00 PM
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78. Don't Believe it for a second, but...
it'd be worth it to see the faces on those "God Picked Bush" fundies. OH MY ROTHFLMAO
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 02:03 PM
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79. read this then
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DisgustedTX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 03:30 PM
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82. We knew.
:evilgrin:
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 02:36 AM
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85. Kick
:bounce:
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 04:21 PM
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92. kick
:kick:
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