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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 06:52 PM
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Another Dean flip flop (switches sports teams)
Edited on Mon Sep-22-03 06:53 PM by quinnox
From the AP:

The Kerry campaign, reacting to the news that Dean will hold a rally in Boston Tuesday, brushed back the former Vermont governor by labeling him a New York Yankees fans.

Not so, said the New York-born Dean, who argued that he dumped the Yankees for the Boston Red Sox three years ago. Dean told the Boston Herald that Yankees pitcher Roger Clemens' beaning of Mets catcher Mike Piazza during the 2000 season was the final straw in his support for the team; he called the Yankees' charge "the biggest insult."

That didn't placate the Kerry campaign, which described Dean's switch as the latest in a series.

"Of all the flip flops, this is the most inexplicable and indefensible," Kerry spokeswoman Kelley Benander said Monday. "It's like switching from the Redskins to the Cowboys or from Carolina to Duke."


Why does Dean have to pander all the time, even over insignificant stuff like this?

Edit for link - http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=694&nci...
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Pepperbelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 06:53 PM
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1. I think that all of them were joking a bit ...
but I know how to test to see if Dean is a real Sox fan. Someone who sees him in person, say, "Buckner," and tell us his response.
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MrJones Donating Member (571 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 06:55 PM
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2. That's not a real test.
See if he can say "Bucky Dent" without an appropriate insertion between the names. :-)
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Pepperbelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 06:56 PM
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4. and the Yankees do suck in THREE ...
Edited on Mon Sep-22-03 06:57 PM by Pepperbelly
very specific ways...

:D

on edit: if you look at his face when you say Buckner, that will tell the tale. No scowl, no red, no Sox.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 06:41 PM
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26. Quinn
oh.. guess I just showed my true fan colors ;-)
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KaraokeKarlton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 06:56 PM
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3. Vermonters typically prefer Boston teams over NY teams
So it's really not surprising that Dean likes the Red Sox.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 06:56 PM
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5. You know what, quinnox!?
Dean can change his mind if he wants to... without you, disingenously, getting on his fu=king Case!
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 06:59 PM
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6. Great contribution to the site.
:thumbsup: /
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 07:37 PM
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17. Funny enough, I just became a Red Sox fan myself a few weeks
ago after reading someone's Poignant post(forget who) about why they liked the Red Sox ...and I don't even watch baseball anymore but I want them to win! Maybe it was matcom's :-)
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RogueTrooper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 07:01 PM
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7. Obviously
the Kerry campaign are trying to attach the flip-flop meme to something the average joe "gets".

Nice try, fellas. Patronizing, but nice try none the less.
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Orangepeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 07:05 PM
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8. is this from the Onion? (nt)
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 07:05 PM
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9. Ha!Ha! A silly story like this was circulated against Hillary
when she was running for senate: that time she was not trusted to be an actual Yankees fan (which she was).
I believe that, before being bought over, The Daily news also ran a headline during the mayoral campaign: "Bloomberg is a Sox fan"
I guess I am missing a gene, I don't understand this fixation with sports teams.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 07:07 PM
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10. Yeah, well I used to be a Dodger's fan
until Rupert Murdoch bought them. Now I hope every year that they lose 120 games a year.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 07:08 PM
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11. Another "when did you quit beating your wife" question?
Edited on Mon Sep-22-03 07:09 PM by NNN0LHI
Again. There is no correct answer. Who the hell is sitting around thinking this crap up to ask? Makes me wonder? Sounds like dirty tricks to me. And the media is helping out too.

An example would be my state, Illinois. The top half of the state likes the Cubs or Sox. The bottom half are Cardinal fans. Hey governor. Which baseball team do you like best? Ummm, emmmm, ummmm, I don't know? Don't sound like presidential material. What we have to realize is that there are a lot of unanswerable questions out there when one is a politician, and not dwell on them.

Don

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uptohere Donating Member (603 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 07:12 PM
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12. I have never heard of switching between those teams
They should be talking to the Guiness Book people over this.

Its got nothing to do with politics but, I mean damn, you just CANT go from the Yankees to the Red Sox. Or visa versa. Especially over something that the Rocket did !

Good thing I was sitting down when I read this !
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 07:17 PM
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13. And I heard DEAN talking trash about yo mamma, too (n/t) :)
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 07:21 PM
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14. This thread ain't nuthin' but shit.
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 07:26 PM
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15. If this is the best the Kerry camp can do against Dean
Edited on Mon Sep-22-03 07:26 PM by khephra
Then Kerry might as well quit now.

Seems I remember a whole lot of moaning from the Kerry camp about a certain "cheesestake incident". They wailed and gnashed their teeth over how pathetic that was. So what do they do? This?

Pathetic. Really fucking pathetic.

Kerry, you better get a refund on the people who are running your campaign. They're fucking idiots.
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sham Donating Member (377 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 07:31 PM
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16. OMFG!!!
Edited on Mon Sep-22-03 07:44 PM by sham
You know, I also heard that Dean recently decided to switch from Heinz to Hunts brand ketchup.
What a fucking waffler, pandering to the Hunts demographic like that when everyone knows Heinz is better!!!

Oh the humanity!

In other news: a staunch Pepsi drinker, Howard Dean was also on the wrong side during the Cola Wars.

I'm marching back over to deanforamerica.com right now and DEMANDING MY CONTRIBUTION BACK!!! :eyes:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 07:40 PM
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18. ON the down side of becoming a Red Sox fan he is going
to have to answer to Yankee fans in New York! :7

I'm in New York and I don't like the Yankees!
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einsteins stein Donating Member (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 06:33 PM
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25. Well, Kerry already has the Heinz vote wrapped up
So can you blame Dean for playing ketchup?


sorry, that was just uncalled for..... :eyes:
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 07:58 PM
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19. who cares if Clemens beaned Piazza? He's a MET!!!
Edited on Mon Sep-22-03 08:02 PM by NewYorkerfromMass
As a former Red Sock that's actually understandable behavior... :evilgrin: now if he had beaned NOMAR? :mad:
Dean's pandering for votes in NH IMHO.
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zeemike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 08:04 PM
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20. I am a flip flopper myself
I flip from one underdog to the other all the time.
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uptohere Donating Member (603 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 05:08 PM
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22. bad bad bad
I stick with my underachieving Seahawks (well not this year so far) and Braves no matter what.

Its not easy or fun but you have to be true.
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 04:46 PM
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21. Nahh. Sports teams aren't important.... no big deal.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 05:12 PM
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23. you are one desperate person
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