Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

American Concentration Camps aka Civilian Inmate Labor Program

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU
 
unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 09:10 AM
Original message
American Concentration Camps aka Civilian Inmate Labor Program
Over the last 60 years we have come to realize how wrong this country was to imprison Japanese-Americans at the onset of WW II. Imprisoning citizens without cause seems to be diametrically opposed to our founding principles.

I had answered a post this morning & quoted Army Regulation 21035, dated 14 January 2005, aptly titled "Civilian Inmate Labor Program" that got me to thinking.

Snipped from AR210-35:

Summary. This regulation provides guidance for establishing and managing civilian inmate labor programs on Army installations. It provides guidance on establishing prison camps on Army installations. It addresses recordkeeping and reporting incidents related to the Civilian Inmate Labor Program and/or prison camp administration.

Applicability. This regulation applies to the Active Army , the Army National Guard of the United States, and the U.S. Army Reserve unless otherwise stated. During mobilization, the Assistant Chief of Staff for Installation Management may modify chapters and policies contained in this regulation.

Proponent and exception authority. The proponent of this regulation is the Assistant Chief of Staff for Installation Management. The proponent has the authority to approve exceptions or waivers to this regulation that are consistent with controlling law and regulations. The proponent may delegate this approval authority, in writing, to a division chief within the proponent agency or a direct reporting unit or field operating agency of the proponent agency in the grade of colonel or the civilian equivalent. Activities may request a waiver to this regulation by providing justification that includes a full analysis of the expected benefits and must include formal review by the activitys senior legal officer. All waiver requests will be endorsed by the commander or senior leader of the requesting activity and forwarded through their higher headquarters to the policy proponent. Refer to AR 2530 for specific guidance.

Link: http://www.apfn.org/apfn/prison_camps.pdf

Many things caught my eye while reading this 34 page Army Regulation. A few random snips:

Page 9:
Inmates are not Department of the Army employees and are not regarded as such. Inmates must not be referred to as employees. They will not be paid from Department of the Army funds, nor receive any personal or private gratuity for work accomplished or services rendered. Interservice, interagency, or interdepartmental support agreements
and/or memoranda of agreement with the corrections facility must not create any appearance of employment of inmates.

Another page 9 goodie:
Work performed. Work performed by inmates will not interfere nor conflict with approved projects for which resources have been allocated and funds made available for performance by contract or Army civilian labor force, or with work which can be accomplished within authorized personnel ceilings. The Civilian Inmate Labor Program was created to provide installation commanders with an alternate labor source to perform valid requirements. Civilian inmate labor does not compete with existing inhouse or contractor resources.

Page 10:
Army military or civilian personnel may oversee the work to be performed by inmates or inmate labor details. Oversight is defined as telling inmates what they must do by specifying work to be accomplished. This oversight includes training inmates in performing assigned work, using special equipment, and safety precautions. Oversight also includes showing inmates the location of the work site and performing quality assurance inspections of inmate work to determine if the work performed meets quality, quantity, and timeliness specifications. Oversight may also include requiring inmates to sign time cards at intervals established by the Warden and/or Administrator of the local corrections facility. If an inmate cannot be located to sign a time card or is otherwise found missing from an assigned work area, Army personnel will immediately notify the local corrections facility point of contact staff supervisor and the installation military police.

There are gems like this on every page. If I had my :tinfoilhat: on, I would say the brownshirts / fundamentalists that run our country are putting the pieces together for a takeover.

Some tidbits that make me think so:

  • religious fundamentalism in the service academies (google: air force religious fundamental)

  • religious fundamentalists at senior command levels (google: general boykin)

  • new crowd control technologies (google: crowd control technology)


  • In closing, I'll pass along a link worthy of your attention:
    http://www.apfn.org/apfn/camps.htm

    Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
    acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 09:19 AM
    Response to Original message
    1. Very interesting (and more than a little disturbing)
    Thanx for the link, I will check this out. I have been saying I am quite concerned by the imposition of martial law, which makes this scenario work for me. Perhaps for debtors as well?
    Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
     
    unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 09:27 AM
    Response to Reply #1
    2. I haven't made up my mind yet on debtors, but it makes a lot of sense.
    I was thinking more in terms of dissidents, incorrect religious believers, conscientious objectors, and other undesirables.
    Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
     
    acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 09:31 AM
    Response to Reply #2
    3. The text stated that civilian camps are to have the letters "CI"
    Clearly visible from the air during daylight. Will have to try the locations that Rense has listed with the Keyhole (aka Google maps) satellite photos.
    Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
     
    unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 09:53 AM
    Response to Reply #3
    4. Let us know what you find. n/t
    Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
     
    atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 10:05 AM
    Response to Original message
    5. I looked at the list of "Camps"
    One that caught my eye was Davis-Monthan AFB here in Tucson. Can you find out exactly where these prisoners are being kept on DM.

    You see I live on the base, and unless there is an underground facility where these "prisoners" are being kept, they must be invisible.

    At first I thought it might be possible, but knowing the base as well as I do, I now have to conclude that who ever came up with that
    list is not only wearing a tin foil hat, they have the matching suit as well.

    I have relatives in Hawaii, and will be asking them to look into the locations that are supposed to exist there as well. And I would like to point out that NAS Barbers Point was closed in 1999 and is now used as an MWR facility.

    I will get back when I have the information about Hawaii.
    Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
     
    hiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 10:52 AM
    Response to Reply #5
    7. US Underground bases with tunnels.........
    Edited on Sun Jun-12-05 10:54 AM by hiley
    Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
     
    SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 10:10 AM
    Response to Original message
    6. This says nothing about rounding up civilians...
    by "civilian inmate" they mean non-army prisoners; that is, inmates of regular prisons. The document specifies how to use low-risk offenders to do work on Army bases. While that's not something I approve of, I think it's still a far cry from rounding up people without cause -- as we did with the Japanese -- and putting them in prison camps.

    Now -- I'm sure plenty of people are itching to do just that with Muslims/debtors, etc., but this document is about something slightly different.

    However, if the regular prison system ever became overrun with political prisoners, this would be a way to deal with the influx. So, I don't know, maybe it's time to fashion a tinfoil hat, if not time to put it on, quite yet...

    Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
     
    DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul 31st 2014, 11:17 AM
    Response to Original message
    Advertisements [?]
     Top

    Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU

    Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
    Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


    Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

    Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

    About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

    Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

    © 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC