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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 03:01 PM
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Do Repubs really want to win next election ?
From their actions, one might think otherwise. Bush and the Repubs run up unfathomable deficits. Then they say they would like to do away with overtime pay. Does this sound like someone that wants to win?

Because if they win, they destroy themselves. They must lose in order to remain viable as a political Party. Once they lose, they can always stand back and do their Monday morning quarterbacking about how it should have been done. However, if left to their own devices, they will have no excuse and it will be obvious to the world what a facade the Republican Party perpetrates upon naive believers. They will cannabalize their own in the process.

So they have no choice but to lose. If they win, they die. Because they are only good at creating problems for government, not resolving them. The huge deficits will become unbearable. Their foreign policy will isolate us before the world. Their domestic policies will desert every American that needs the help of government, because they do not believe in government. It would be like a leopard trying to change its spots for the Repubs to believe in any type of government solution.

So they have reached a point where they are hinting to their supporters, "Please do not vote for us...it will kill us as a Party. We need to have Democrats in power so we can criticize and vilify the way they govern, but we don't know what the hell we are doing." So they must convince their loyal right-wing followers that they are indeed incompetent. In doing so, someone will have to be the major scapegoat of the the Party. Goodbye George!
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Davis_X_Machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 03:04 PM
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1. It's not a case of really wanting to win the next election...
...it's a case of them really wanting to live in a larger version of Argentina.

Deficits out of control.
Unemployment sky-high.
Anxious citizens seeking an authoritarian answer.
Rah-rah warmaking.
One-party state.
Presidents-for-life.
The 'disappeared'.

George Bush is what you get if Juan Peron got an MBA.
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 03:11 PM
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2. Peron was better educated...
...(wrote 5 books on military history) and was an actual, if priveledged, military officer.

Frankly, Peron would be a better Commander in Chief than W.
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denverbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 03:15 PM
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3. And if Juan Peron had 50% fewer brain cells.
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OrdinaryTa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 03:31 PM
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6. Laura as Evita?
I don't think so.
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mlawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 03:28 PM
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4. They know that deficits, etc., are not necessarily pivotal
in the election. The 20% or so non-political voters don't care as much about such *arcane* issues, as whether or not they LIKE bush. If they LIKE him more than the Dem, then he gets back in. Don't believe it? How else did Ronnie win 49 states in 1984???
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Astarho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 03:29 PM
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5. Or they know
that the fix is in.

Or maybe they're just trying to loot the treasury as much as they can now.
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Speck Tater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 03:42 PM
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7. They don't need to win to stay in office

It's not who casts the votes, but who counts the votes, and Bush's pals at Diebold will be counting the votes.

There is also the possibility of a "coincidentally" well-timed terrorist attack shortly before election day giving Bush the "moral authority" to postpone (indefinitely) the elections. There goes democracy as Democrats everywhere rush to the Canadian border to escape the purges before the borders are closed. Those unfortunate Dems caught inside Bush's iron curtain will be forced to wear identifying arm bands and ... well you know the rest of the story.
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 03:52 PM
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8. Naw - Republicans just can't help
stepping on their own dicks when they have the power.
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pmbryant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 03:56 PM
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9. I must say..
this is one of the most ridiculous posts I've ever read on DU.

:D

I'm sorry, but Bush and the GOP will do anything and everything to stay in power. If they lose grip on power in any branch of government, the investigations and indictments will start flowing and they will be truly fried.

The only way they can keep the truth of their corrupt behavior hidden is to stay in power, by whatever means necessary.

--Peter
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 04:01 PM
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10. Thank you Peter...
:) But they have friends in high places that will assist in hiding their corrupt behavior. And these friends in high places have more power than those in the Bush Administration...and have for many, many decades. It will be their decision to either keep or throw away the present Repub leadership. I think Bush is gone...
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pmbryant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 04:08 PM
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11. High places?
Are you referring to the Supreme Court? If the Bushies lose power, their hold on the Supreme Court (5-4) becomes very very shaky. They can't rely on that. Rehnquist won't live forever.

If the huge apparatus of the Executive Branch (esp. the Justice Department) is no longer in the hands of the Bushies, their goose is cooked. The Supreme Court can't save them, even as it is currently constituted.

If the GOP truly thinks Bush would lose the election, or that they had a better candidate (which they don't), they would ditch him for someone else in their pocket. But Bush is their one and only hope. No other 'reliable' GOP figure has anywhere near the national popularity that Bush does.

--Peter
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 04:17 PM
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12. Supreme Court? No. Higher.
:) Big Business and corporate media, for starters.
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pmbryant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 04:22 PM
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13. Neither big business nor the corporate media control the Justice Dept
So the Bushies can't rely on them to save their hides if they lose control of the Executive Branch.

--Peter
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