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Catch22Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 01:08 AM
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Clark on Energy
Someone in a thread I was reading today was asking where Clark stood on energy policy. I think this person was specifically asking about renewable energy. Anyway, I didn't bookmark the thread and I can't remember who was asking, so hopefully this finds the right person, and I hope it helps.

Info from: http://www.meetclark.com/faq/index.asp?faqid=39

I am not one of those people who will rule out nuclear energy as a contributor to dealing with the energy problem. Weve just got lots of things we need to do on energy conservation and energy generation, and especially renewable energy resources. The means are out there now to take a much greater percentage of our energy needs from the sun, from solar, and from wind, and even from wave action. And I would hope that we would move ahead in those areas much more rapidly than we have been. More...

"For more than 100 years, the internal combustion engine has been the system of choice for automobiles and many other vehicles. Although electric motors have been available since the early 1800s, no one has been able to create a motor architecture that is small enough, light enough, yet powerful enough to propel an automobile reliably and efficiently until now." Wavecrest Labs I believe that the WaveCrest electric motor has a chance to be the propulsion system of choice for the twenty-first century. More...
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Robin Hood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 01:17 AM
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1. Uh oh..
"I am not one of those people who will rule out nuclear energy as a contributor to dealing with the energy problem."

Red Flag.
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 01:21 AM
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2. and what is wrong with nuclear power?
I suggest here and now we build reactors enough to power up the entire country--------------

In Texas , Wyoming,Arkansas and anyplace else a pro nuke politician hails from.

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Robin Hood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 01:23 AM
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3. Are you serious?
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 01:25 AM
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4. You mean you couldn't tell?
:D
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Robin Hood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 01:30 AM
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6. It's just that,
It doesn't matter where they are at. Because when they get old they are too hard to maintain. Also, lets not forget about the nuclear waste that it creates. That's what Yucca mountain is all about.
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 01:26 AM
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5. Where do you suggest we put the waste?
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 01:44 AM
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7. Haiti? Iraq?
We've already dumped some 4,000 tons of toxic waste on a beach in Haiti 10 years ago.
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THE OPERATORS OF THE INFAMOUS Khian Sea, the ship which sailed the worlds seas seeking to dispose of Philadelphia incinerator ash, were indicted on July 14 in a Wilmington, Delaware U.S. District Court for making false statements to a federal grand jury related to an investigation into the disposal of 15,000 tons of toxic ash.
In 1986, Paolino and Sons, a waste management company hired by the city of Philadelphia, contracted with John Dowd, of the Amalgamated Shipping Corporation , and William Reilly, of the Coastal Carriers Corporation , to dispose of ash from the citys municipal garbage incinerator. The ash was carried aboard the ship Khian Sea for 27 months. In January 1988, the ship unloaded 4,000 tons of the waste, labeled as fertilizer, on the beach of Gonaives, Haiti , in violation of Haitian law prohibiting waste imports.

In May 1988, the ship sailed to the former Yugoslavia , where it docked with approximately 11,000 tons of the remaining ash in its cargo holds. In Yugoslavia, the ships name was changed to Felicia. It left Yugoslavia shortly thereafter and arrived in Singapore in November 1988 with its cargo holds empty.
http://multinationalmonitor.org/hyper/issues/1992/09/mm...
Joseph Paolino & Sons was fined in 1995 by the Nuclear Regulatory Commission for possessing radioactive materials without a license, and in October 1991 pleaded guilty in Philadelphia federal district court to charges of cheating employees out of benefits by keeping two sets of books, underreporting workers' hours, and refusing to pay union-scale wages. It currently has no address or phone number in Philadelphia, and sources in the mayor's office there say it is believed to be out of business.

When confronted with Louis Paolino's connection to the Haiti debacle, Eastern Environmental protested vehemently at first, according to commission sources. But faced with the threat of losing a lucrative license in the New York City trash market, the firm eventually came up with a cleanup planin early 1997. It agreed to pay $100,000 to remove the ash from Gonaives and transport it back to Pennsylvaniatwo-thirds of >the total cost. The toxic waste is set to be buried in the company's Bender landfill outside of Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. Disposal in the landfill represents another $250,000 or so of in-kind costs to the company. An independent environmental group in Cambridge will make a new analysis of the ash to be sure it conforms to landfill standards.

The deadline for completion of the deal is April, and it's up to Haiti to arrange for the removal and shipping. Ironically, that country's minister for the environment recently resigned. With no one running the agency, and the government in general disarray, the project has languished. In a statement to the Voice, however, the Haitian government has expressed its "major concern" about getting the mess cleaned up.

http://www.essentialaction.org/return/article3.html

The waste is still there by the way...

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Robin Hood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 01:48 AM
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8. Jesus H Christ!!
They must be close personal friends of the BFEE. Take a good read folks. That is the future of George Bush's America. Let big business regulate themselves. Trust us, we're not so bad. Why do liburuls hate big business?
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 02:41 AM
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9. Holey Moley!
:wow:
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RandomUser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-03 04:28 AM
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10. I want Cold Fusion
What I'm interested in are nuclear fusion reactors. If Clark's willing to invest money into researching feasible nuclear fusion plants, the more power to him, I say. Then we can get rid of these dirty generations old nuclear fission reactors with all the radioactive waste. I think we're getting really close to having cold fusion if the government backs it. Currently the two promising prototypes are the soda-can implosion one and the magnetic bottle one. If we can switch to cold fusion we can say goodbye to coal burning and radioactive waste from fission plants.
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