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OrlandoGator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 08:38 PM
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I fully support Texas secession.
Have you ever met a Texan? Are you perhaps one yourself?

These people have this grandiose delusion that Texas is Jesus' own personal chosen Paradise, and most of them seem to have far more loyalty to Texas than to the United States.

I say let them secede. Let Texas become it's own filthy country with oily air and brown beach water. Let them truly become a Lone Star.

God, I'm fucking tired of Texas.
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Kelvin Mace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 08:39 PM
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1. I support
moving all the Texans to South Carolina and giving the state back to the Indians and the Mexicans.
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OrlandoGator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 08:40 PM
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3. Or, leave them there and give the state back to the Indians and Mexicans.
That would be fun to watch.
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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 08:41 PM
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6. Why would you want to do that to S.C.? n/t
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Kelvin Mace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 08:44 PM
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11. I lived there for two years
no one would notice. <g>
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 08:49 PM
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18. I'd support that, as long as we make them ALL WALK to South Carolina.
No SUV or even Pickups.
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Kelvin Mace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 10:13 PM
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38. Deal
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Sanity Claws Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 08:40 PM
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2. Great idea
Maybe give them a parting gift too.
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 08:40 PM
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4. As long as...
Texas residents all relinquish their citizenships so that us freedom-loving Murcans never have to be saddled with another of the likes of CuckooBananas.

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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 08:41 PM
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5. Give them back to Mexico.
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 08:42 PM
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7. I'd rather they not be allowed to secede
It's our responsibility to hand Texas back to Mexico in as good a condition as when we first got it. We broke it, and it's our moral duty to make restitution.
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 08:44 PM
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9. thanx for your support
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 08:44 PM
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8. If they were another country we could declare war on them. I'm
for that.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 08:44 PM
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10. Got quite a few Texas DU'ers & they are great people.
Edited on Mon Jun-06-05 08:44 PM by Solly Mack
So let's just deport the 'right' people in all 50 states. :)

I'm sure we can find some remote island they can call home.
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 08:59 PM
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31. the Mars initiative
makes more sense daily.

dp
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 08:44 PM
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12. I like TX but if they go, we keep BouncyBall
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 08:46 PM
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15. I insist we keep Skittles too. nt
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 08:45 PM
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13. Well, you can't give them something that isn't ours to give.
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Carni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 08:45 PM
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14. I have never been there but count me in!
If that horse's ass leader of ours was raised in Texas then it can't be good...
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 08:48 PM
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17. The fucker is from Connecticut!
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Carni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 08:56 PM
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24. I know that but he was raised in Texas
Truthfully I shouldn't comment because as I said I have never been to Texas, but it's easy to get pissy about the state given the fact he calls it home.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 08:47 PM
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16. i understand your sentiments, my husband and two boys are
texans. my husband voted kerry. my two sons stuck up for kerry at a christian fundamentalist school, and challenge bush every step of the way, and they were only 6 and 9

you really want to do this to my kids. oh no, please no, wink
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 08:50 PM
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19. The new slogan: Let Texas go!
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Lady Effingbroke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 08:50 PM
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20. I live in Texas, and I fully understand your sentiments.
There are some of us who are none too pleased with Governor Goodhair and his BS!
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 08:51 PM
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21. I'd rather we took the 35-40% of them that are registered Dems/Independent
and move them to California, Illinois, New York, and Massachusetts, then give the state back to Mexico with the Pukes still in it.
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Imalittleteapot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 08:52 PM
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22. Great idea. I would have reason to get out of this RW hole.
Surely GOP hubby would want to move from Texas to America. Nah. He was born and raised here.
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OrlandoGator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 08:54 PM
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23. My background on this subject:
I had to live in a dingy Holiday Inn Express in Baytown, Texas (the ass end of Houston) for eleven months on a job.

You may ask, "why didn't he get a nicer place to stay?" The answer to that is, I was only supposed to be there for a few weeks and the job kept getting stretched out until before I knew it almost a year had passed.

So anyway, Baytown, Texas is the absolute armpit of America. Disgusting, ignorant, inbred people, a thick visible stew that we were supposed to believe was breathable air, and an intense summer heat that stifled your lungs.

And you want to know what the highlight of my stay in Texas was? Working with so many Mexicans. In spite of the stereotypes, I've never worked with a crew so eager to learn and go the extra mile.

I fucking hate Texas, though. Like I said, people there seem prouder of being a Texan (still not sure why) than they are of being American. I can say with certainty that there are more Texas state flags flying there than American flags, and that is sad.
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Lady Effingbroke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 08:58 PM
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29. Hey, OrlandoGator, I feel ya.
Edited on Mon Jun-06-05 08:59 PM by Lady Effingbroke
I live across the bridge in Stinkadena.
:puke:
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 08:57 PM
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25. I say we just SELL the South and Middle back to Mexico, that would...
Edited on Mon Jun-06-05 09:00 PM by Up2Late
...REALLY piss them off. Then build a Fence around that part

We could Keep El Paso, and I kind of like San Antonio too. Hmmm.
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Liberal Gramma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 08:57 PM
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26. Let's not do this halfway
Let the whole South secede.
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OrlandoGator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 08:58 PM
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28. I sometimes wonder if perhaps Honest Abe should have let them go.
Nah...human slavery is not a concession.
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sorrybushisfromtexas Donating Member (416 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 08:58 PM
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27. Texas Secession
Wait just a minute. What about the few liberal democratic DUers that are in the state. If Texas secedes we will probably be hunted down and hung. Please, let us at least stay in the Union. We are few in number but I am hearing from a lot of other teachers who were stupid enough to vote this wacky Texas legislature we have in. They say they won't make that mistake again, but I am not sure they mean it. I work at a school with 37 teachers that has only 4 admitted liberals. It is hard but at least I get to tell 129 6th graders the truth about politics. Like my Daddy taught me, There are 2 kinds of Republicans: 1. rich or 2. stupid.
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Tux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 09:30 PM
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33. What?
We'd liberate the liberals, move them to New England, and send Texas packing. They can have their cowboys, fundies, inbred rednecks, and their stupid cows.
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 08:59 PM
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30. I know how you feel
Just make sure and have a relocation program for us Democrats, OK?
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T Town Jake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 09:09 PM
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32. California first...
...that state "blessed" us with the likes of Tricky Dick Nixon and Ronald Raygun, after all, and fair's fair.

Your regional stereotyping is insipid & silly.
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Nevernose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 09:33 PM
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35. Hear, hear!
And let's not forget Arnie while we're at it!
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rainman99 Donating Member (283 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 09:33 PM
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34. Well, my mom is 80 and has been a Democrat all her life.
But after the last year, I'm pretty sick of Texas myself. We had to move from a rural area because they hate Democrats so much. I'd love to leave.
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Kazak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 09:34 PM
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36. BOOMER SOONER!!!
:headbang:
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Mich Otter Donating Member (887 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 09:37 PM
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37. Naw, there are many really good people in Texas and someday...
they are going to make us proud of the work they have done to change Texas for the good.
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Timshel Donating Member (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 01:14 AM
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39. HEY!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wait a second there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I don't know if anyone is still reading this thread, but I HAD to respond..........

I am an Austinite who was born in South Carolina to a Southern Baptist Minister, moved to right outside New York City when I was 10, spent summers in Cape Cod off Boston, and have lived in Austin for the past 11 years since coming here to go to UT. I have experienced both the far right and the far left throughout the years. I voted for Clinton in 1996, Al Gore in 2000 and voted for Kerry in 2004 (and my mother who lives in New York voted for nutso in 2000, although she gained back her senses and voted for Kerry in 2004). I read this website on probably a daily basis, and know MANY people here who do the same. If you really want to get into it, Texas wasn't a freaking republican state until Bush got his hands on it; in fact, up until the late 1950's, the real election for Governor of Texas was held in the Democratic Primaries, because no-one ever voted republican.

There may be alot of things I don't like about this state (and believe me when I say alot of things), but, as Kinky Friedman wrote in Texas Monthly (now running for governor), "Texas is the place that best tolerates the contradictory nature of America itself...Texas trying to forge something new, has outgrown Bush. As much as he can be a man of the West, he reverts under pressure to conventions of the old Eastern aristocracy, surrounding himself with loyal family retainers, believing he has no obligation to explain himself, certain that, because of his birthright, he knows best. But these are complicated notions that don't serve any outsider's agenda. It's a lot easier to label us all cowboys and move on."

But this is also the state of Molly Ivans, Ben Barnes, Jim Hightower, Natalie Maines, Dan Rather, and the Iconoclast newspaper; the state in which the Democratic party actually left to try and halt the re-districting lines; the state of the upcoming Democracy Festival with Howard Dean in two weeks, which has the highest attendance of them all, and the majority are from Texas; the state that raised more money for Hillary Clinton last month than California; the state where I witnessed a 5 hour line last month when Bill Clinton came for his book signing; the state where I talked to people of every color and every race who abhorred W; the state where there was a little talked about RIOT in Houston when people were told that the voting location in a poor area was being closed because the machines were overloaded.

This is a state, like many others in this country, that has many many problems; and because we are entrenched in them - the abject poverty, poor school districts, horrible health care, disrupted worker's rights, corrupt politicians and conservative Christian movements that make the holy trinity look like a radical liberal - we work every day at changing the politics. I have walked the streets registering voters, dropped off reams of petitions supporting the impeachment of Bush and the destruction of Tom Delay, worked in phone banks for hours supporting the Dean dozen and other local democratic leaders, donated more than 10% of my income to the democratic party over the last year, even though my income is not what anyone could call healthy, and SOBBED on November 2nd around 10:30 PM when I figured out that the 2004 elections were going to destroy this country. I don't think I woke up until a couple of months ago.

So before you write us off, remember your allies here, and how hard they worked. Let's try to convince the American people of the evil of ONE man, before we convince them of the idiocy of an entire state.

Sorry, buddy, but you hit a nerve there.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 01:17 AM
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40. I AGREE ABSOLUTELY
AND I HAVE LIVED IN THIS F***ING STATE FOR 29 YEARS
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 07:50 AM
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41. locking...
this is region bashing and is a rule violation.
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