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MoonGod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 09:39 PM
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1. I have to say, though...

... the fact that this is all narrowing down to 16 words in the SOTU concerns me a bit. The issue is bigger than that. What about the aluminum tubes? And where ARE those pesky WMDs? What about the CIAs assessment that if Saddam did have WMDs, he'd be more likely to use or disseminate them if he was attacked?

That said, I'm glad it has legs. I'm glad the Dems are keeping the fire lit. I'm glad the media sees this as their big ratings cash cow. And I'm glad people are actually starting to get the picture: Bush lies!
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 10:25 PM
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9. Don't worry there are so MANY lies....they will all come out.
Their "16-words talking points" ain't gonna work.

I have one 5-letter word for you thugs:

LIARS!

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scrutineer Donating Member (992 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 10:52 PM
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10. Watergate started with a third-rate burglary.
16-words is the camel’s nose in the tent.

Let’s HOPE the camel has a spine.

:D
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-03 08:13 AM
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15. third-rate SOTU address!
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GalleryGod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-03 06:48 AM
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12. Verrrrrry Nixonian ,though! It's Containment Time at 1600 Pa. Ave.
And Ari's flown the coop!:nuke:
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RobinA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-03 07:39 AM
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14. Aluminum Tubes
I've been wondering myself what happened to the aluminum tubes in all this. I almost fell over when I read the speech the next morning and he mentioned the tubes. It was published all over BEFORE the speech that these had a questionable (at best) link to nuke building.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-03 08:43 AM
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17. Did you ever see the pictures
Edited on Mon Jul-14-03 08:46 AM by Karenina
of the duct tape and balsa DRONES OF DEATH Iraq had? :eyes:
or the beat-up canvas covered trucks that the U.S. called "mobile weapons labs?" Nail them on ONE lie and the rest will follow like a chain reaction!

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foxglove1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 09:40 PM
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2. 16 words that killed a whole lot of people
Bush lied ... how many more will die?

Sue
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AnnabelLee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 09:41 PM
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3. As soundbites go,
"Bush's 16 Words" isn't all that bad.
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molly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 10:10 PM
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4. Smug little bastards - aren't they
not for long.
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 10:13 PM
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5. this is not light
it's a definite sign!
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enough Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 10:13 PM
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6. For a quick one-stop rebuttal of the "16 words" thing
read this:

http://www.theangryliberal.com/07-13-03.htm

"Liar, Liar, Speech on Fire" by The Angry Liberal, posted by Trof earlier today.

This is a sharp, focused analysis of all the lies in the SOTU, documented with good links.
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annagull Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 10:16 PM
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7. OMG--there's an opposition party in congress?!
There needs to be a demand for answers and a bunch of Dems calling the repukes obstructionists--obstructing the American people from the truth!!
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 10:23 PM
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8. The rethugs want it to be 16 words. They, as my pappy always
used to say: "Wish in one hand and **** in the other
and see which fills up first."
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 10:54 PM
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11. two words, nuclear bomb
Was Iraq building one or not?
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-03 06:57 AM
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13. Within 45 minutes
Edited on Mon Jul-14-03 07:00 AM by DoYouEverWonder
There's 3 more.

Not only did Iraq have a nuke? Could they deploy it within 45 minutes?


At least according to Tony Blair.
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buddhamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-03 08:40 AM
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16. the DEMs should couple this
with the Admin's Data Dump on the economy.

lying to the American public about the shape economy,tax cuts that we couldn't afford and how that will affect us in the long term, while sending us into a forged war- winning combination.

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