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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-03 07:08 AM
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Woman on CSPAN theorises Bush is drinking... NYQUIL!
Edited on Sun Sep-21-03 07:09 AM by wyldwolf
Although I think they took the alcohol out of NyQUIL, The CSPAN host said she wasn't the first called who noticed Bush looked intoxicated at various speeches!
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-03 07:12 AM
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1. Now a registered Nurse has called in implying...
... a connection with mental health and alcoholism in relation to Bush.
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-03 07:15 AM
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2. This could explain "The Joke That Is Not Really a Joke"
featured on Letterman.
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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-03 07:27 AM
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8. What joke was that?
nt
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-03 07:37 AM
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It's when Bush THINKS he's telling a joke . . .
. . . but it's not funny and nobody laughs - except George, of course.
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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-03 07:15 AM
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3. :) hot damn!
Edited on Sun Sep-21-03 07:15 AM by greyl
And they say Sunday is the day of rest...
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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-03 07:15 AM
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4. My international politics professor said the same thing
He mentioned there is a marked difference in Dubya 2000 vs Dubya 03 and he wouldn't be surprised if Dubya was on meds or sneaking drinks.

He did say that he didn't blame Bush if he was. Said that if he, the professor, had to deal with this much crap he would be a bumbling mess.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-03 07:26 AM
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7. Please, sgr2, please, for the love of God
Remove that picture of Katherine Harriss from your sig line. Just, I'm asking you nicely. It scares me, and its very early in the morning...
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-03 07:36 AM
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9. Halloween's coming up.
I think those Katherine Harris masks will go nicely with a witch's costume.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-03 07:37 AM
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10. You don't want your kids seeing that in stores
Do you?
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screembloodymurder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-03 09:17 AM
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32. Scary ugly.
Harris is the wicked witch of the South. Coulter's the wicked witch of the North. Nancy Reagan and Barbera Bush can share the West. A whole series of Repugnant masks.
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corarose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-03 08:50 AM
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29. Katherine Harris looks like an UGLY Transvestite
Some guys that dress in drag look better then women but hell Katherine Harris looks like an UGLY Drag Queen.

I second it that picture makes me want to :puke:.
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GalleryGod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-03 09:13 AM
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31. The Drag Queens in P-town wouldn't allow her in the Show
Playing HERSELF, no less.

She's a total tw*t....probably gets cabana boys to go down on her. :shrug:
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bitchkitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-03 09:19 AM
Response to Reply #7
33. Just pretend it's Ozzie Osbourne,
and it's not so bad.
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imax2268 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-03 08:54 AM
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30. what a horrid picture...
she's gross... :puke:
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-03 12:53 PM
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52. she could be a beauty but would still be a horribly corrupt person
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NormanConquest Donating Member (346 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-03 01:06 PM
Response to Reply #4
56. I STILL Know What You Did Last Election...
And I hear the GOP has yet another sequel lined up...
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onecitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-03 10:05 AM
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38. As an RN myself, I've never bought...........
the story about the "pretzel". First of all, if you or I choked on a pretzel and were hypoxic long enough that we then passed out, the paramedics would be summoned and they would want to transport us to a local ERD to do further testing. We could refuse that if we were wide awake and appeared to be doing well after the fact (but believe me, they would try their best to get us to go). BUT this was the POTUS!!! They WOULD want to do further testing. Count on it. They would want a cardiac work-up as well as Pulmonary work-up. EKG, Blood gases and chem panel at the very least. Those can be done at home but they would want the POTUS checked out from head to toe. They would want a CT scan or MRI of his head, since he bumped it so hard. AGAIN, this is the POTUS!!! They might let you or I slide. But not him. He would have a full-court-press physical exam from the very best.
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quilp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-03 11:07 AM
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46. Would Bush take a blood test today? He wouldn't in the National Guard.
Shouldn't Bush be held to the same standard as Clinton? The one thing he was not accused of is alcoholism. (I guess the Republicans slipped up there). But had they made that claim, you can bet the media would have never ended a clamour for a medical examination.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-03 01:42 PM
Response to Reply #38
59. Well, maybe they did. Secrecy is job one in the WH
Personally, I think the 72 month batteries are beginning to run low early. The radio control just ain't working like it used to...
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-03 11:36 AM
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48. I saw that, too. Wasn't she the caller from Canada who said
Brian Mulroney had done the same thing and she saw the same pattern in bush? Yes. I saw that. And she wasn't all. There was another caller who brought up bush's drinking, also, and wondered if he wasn't still hitting the bottle even now. TWO calls in that same half-hour time frame mentioned the same suspicions.

I hadn't heard about the Nyquil factor before. But this nurse had said that when Mulroney was prime minister, and bush senior was vp, bush junior therefore had to have been aware of this. She said her suspicions stem from the pattern she saw in Mulroney that she believes she's also seeing with bush: Mulroney, an alcoholic, used to close down early every night because he'd go home to hit the Nyquil bottle. Then, the following morning, he'd be up working out, presumably trying to work off a hangover. She said she wondered if bush's early bedtime and his propensity for working out in the morning and his history of alcoholism were just a repeat of what Mulroney did. MOST intriging.
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-03 07:15 AM
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5. The poor guest, Richard Benedeto, doesn't quite know what to do.
Edited on Sun Sep-21-03 07:17 AM by TacticalPeak
Like he's never noticed the slurring, etc.

Sez aWol looked fine at Kamp David.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-03 07:22 AM
Response to Reply #5
6. What he said about Bush's poll numbers was hysterical...
..said his approval was only plummeting because people were reacting to bad news.

DUH!

Were they articially high because people were reacting to a cowboy mentality?
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LizW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-03 07:41 AM
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11. She said this on TV?
I've got to start watching more TV. :wow:

(They took the alcohol out of Nyquil? Damn.)
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-03 11:42 AM
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49. Yes, she did. An RN from Canada. FURTHERMORE,
she wasn't the only caller who brought up bush's drinking, either. Another caller before her wondered if he was still drinking because he's looked like he was drunk while making speeches lately. TWO callers on the subject among about 8 or 9 who weighed in.

There were two other callers who were pro-bush and anti-"liberal" media. The rest of the callers were all anti-bush.
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Barad Simith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-03 12:54 PM
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53. just checked the label...
Yah, the alcohol is gone. But it's still a good knock-out.
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rogerashton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-03 07:49 AM
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12. Bipolar disorder, as I have speculated before,
self-medicated, with alchohol or something else.

Bush family will have sources for whatever they want -- of course.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-03 07:50 AM
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13. He does sleep alot
So, that could be justifiable.

I think its more likely whiskey or gin.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-03 08:09 AM
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17. Sleep? "Retires Early"
That's the term I always hear about Junior's "bedtime"...that could mean going up to the family area (very top secret...sidestepping Hillary's smashed ashtrays...hahahaha), locking himself in with Barney, cranking on the gameboy and popping little brown bottles.

Honestly, I can't imagine this oxygen thief reading a book or engaged in long "kitchen debates" with people on the phone (ala Clinton) or even preparing for his "job". I'll bet it's gotta be a panic if there's a crisis at night and someone has to decide if the manchild should be either woken up or sobered up or whatever. I get this picture of Marsha Wallace and coffee enemas...LOL

It came out that Nixon snuck into the family area and whiskied himself to subconsciouness...and a reason some justify for his amazing 5am appearance at the Lincoln Memorial during a Vietnam Peace Rally. I wouldn't be surprised if Dubya...like many others of the "Cocktail Generation" self medicate themselves up and down...it's the American Way
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GCP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-03 09:24 AM
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35. "Oxygen thief" OMFG That's priceless
That's my term for * from now on :D
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-03 10:16 AM
Response to Reply #35
40. Air thief
My husband always refers to Whistle ass as an air thief. Thought he was the only one.
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-03 11:19 AM
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47. I don't think of Baby Boomers as the "Cocktail Generation," that's

more applicable to Poppy and Bar's generation. Dubya and I are members of the "Sex, Drugs and Rock 'n' Roll" Generation.

That said, people in every generation self medicate with alcohol and whatever other drugs are readily available to them. And self medication is a very dangerous thing.

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Warren Stuart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-03 07:53 AM
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14. He's losing it
He gave a speech at Ft. Stewart, GA the other day to soldiers who just returned from Iraq. He had a captive, receptive audience and bombed "bigtime". He hadn't studied or rehearsed the speech, mixed up the theartre of operations (Pakistan, we are at war with Pakistan?) implied that the soldiers were going back to Iraq.

AND TO MAKE MATTERS WORSE:

Refused to meet with a Gold Star Widow.

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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-03 08:06 AM
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15. "Refused to meet with a Gold Star Widow"
(Lifting jaw from floor) I wonder how can he slide by on this?

I had not heard this; how did you find out? Was it covered in any papers?

This pathetic excuse for a human is digging a hole in quicksand.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-03 08:21 AM
Response to Reply #15
22. Here's a couple of stories about W's Ft Stewart visit
Palm Beach Post

Connect Savannah

Enjoy, this day was a disaster for W. Let's hope that he has many more that are just as bad.
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-03 09:51 AM
Response to Reply #22
37. "Courtesy Escort"???
What, they were gonna physically prevent her from leaving her house while El Dictatorio was in town?

This is your "Honner and Dignitude" president, you silent lurkers. Go back to your board and tell 'em that.

A war widow, prevented from seeing the president.
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bandy Donating Member (545 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-03 10:11 AM
Response to Reply #22
39. I love McEvoy
of the PB Post. He is so laid back and down to earth. His writings are aimed at the common man and so easy to read.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-03 10:44 AM
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42.  Inside Savannah;
Edited on Sun Sep-21-03 10:46 AM by bigtree
what a sad and beautiful portrait of our captive forces and their president, in decline.


...the president cast a notable pall of silence over the crowd when he told them hed ask Congress for more money to occupy and rebuild Iraq. The president is unlikely to forget the crowds reaction to that line anytime soon.
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Warren Stuart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-03 08:24 AM
Response to Reply #15
23. Here's the link from yesterday
Edited on Sun Sep-21-03 08:24 AM by Warren Stuart
It goes into detail regarding Bush's atrocious speech, the reply by TreasonousBastard has the Gold Star Wives info.

The woman in question (Patricia Barbee) lost her husband during Vietnam, and has done a lot of volunteer work on behalf of wives who lost their husbands in Iraq.

Bush refused to meet with her.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-03 10:55 AM
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44. Huh... isn't this a member of the same group in an urban myth
circulating about Hillary not meeting with members - a hoax debunked on snopes - but a hoax that continues to be emailed around to demonstrate how awful she is.

This is rather surreal.
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oustemnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-03 03:52 PM
Response to Reply #44
60. Gold Star Mothers, actually
was the group (it might be Gold Star Moms)-women who lost their kids in wars. You're right, though, the double standard is mind-boggling.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-03 11:46 AM
Response to Reply #15
50. "I'm not a fighter jock, but I play one on TV."
Whaddya think? Oxygen thief is good too.
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-03 08:13 AM
Response to Reply #14
18. Bush does nothing with or near the dead. Can he face that? NO
Is pickles his keeper? Every drunk I have ever known has really had a keeper that sort of helped them to keep that life style up.Also people that really never grow up have that sort of care from someone.
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catmandu57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-03 08:08 AM
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16. Well you see I caught a cold
that used to be a line heard at AA meetings accross the country. Nyquil used to just be a shot of booze in disguise.
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SuffragetteSal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-03 12:57 PM
Response to Reply #16
54. exactly right
Nyquil does contain alcohol and many have abused it the same.
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BuelahWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-03 01:37 PM
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58. Nyquil knocked me OUT
When I took it for a cold back in the late '80s. And I had a horrible hangover the next day too. Never took it again. I'm not a drinker by any means, but I never got as buzzed on real alcohol as I did on that cold medicine.

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soup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-03 08:14 AM
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19. caller now
from Alabama says we're in a holy war.
Anyone against it just makes him SICK.

whoo boy.
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Enraged American Donating Member (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-03 08:17 AM
Response to Reply #19
21. Yeah I was going to make a post about that
Some people are just really stupid. That guy sounded like a typical fanaticized Faux-watching scumbag.

a "hole war"? These evangelical groups are the American equivalent to the Saudi Islamists.
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soup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-03 08:27 AM
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24. Maybe *jr could share the NYQUIL with him-
calm him down about 18 notches.

Sorry, couldn't resist.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-03 08:31 AM
Response to Reply #19
26. Anyone who supports the idea of a holy war
Scares the shit out of me, and is just like any Islamic fundamentalist that we are supposedly at war against.
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-03 08:16 AM
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20. I don't think I was the only one who noticed...
...all the sniffling Shrub was doing during the 2k debates. I think he still does coke (probably believes it improves his performance). He sniffled alot more than Al "sighed."
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rapier Donating Member (997 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-03 08:28 AM
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25. questions
Is Bush taking any psychoactive drugs? What drugs is he using, if any?

Sombody in the press better ask. They put off asking about the Iraq AlQueda links for 2 years, so they didn't make them lie. When will the quislings in the press fianlly stop their boot licking?

I can accept answers in the negative to the above questions and can accept them to be true. I just want it on the record.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-03 08:36 AM
Response to Reply #25
28. Since W is a federal employee
Shouldn't he be subject to random drug testing?

Clinton had to let them test his DNA, why shouldn't W have to give up a little piss once in awhile, especially considering his admitted history of drug and alcohol abuse?
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-03 08:33 AM
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27. Brian Mulroney was a "recovering" alcoholic hooked on
Nyquil. Big pal of Poppy Bush, too.
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SOS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-03 12:38 PM
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51. Like father, like son?
Bush Sr. was using halcion throughout most of his presidency.
Here are some snips from Canada'a Globe and Mail from 1992:

"02.13.92

NON-COVERAGE ON HALCION INDICATES SOMEONE'S IN A DAZE

by
GEOFF HEINRICKS

The Globe and Mail finally got around to writing about George Herbert Walker Bush's use of the controversial sleeping pill, Halcion. -snip- (other articles cited)

All expressed concern about the terrifying side effects of Halcion -- bliss and supreme confidence followed by intense anxiety, hallucinations, amnesia, confusion, hostility and, in rare cases, violence. Some of the articles wondered whether the drug might explain Bush's extremely bizarre behavior and speech patterns during a mid-January trip to New Hampshire. -snip-

U.S. Secretary of State James Baker may or may not still take the largest dose of Halcion on the market -- .25 milligrams -- while travelling. Baker calls them "blue bombs" because of the color and strength."
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SpaceCatMeetsMars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-03 09:22 AM
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34. I once worked with a woman whose husband was addicted to cough syrup
I am not sure what kind it was, but it was a very sad situation. He ended up being killed in some sort of pedestrian accident while on the cough syrup.
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-03 09:48 AM
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36. Nyquill is 50-Proof
25% Alcohol, It, along with almost ALL mouthwashes, was contraband at the rehab my ex-wife's kids attended.

But it's one of those things used by "sneaky drunks", and with all the enablers surrounding the Chimpy, why does he need to hide anything? Hell, he has a SS escort trained in Mixology with him at all times.
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corarose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-03 10:21 AM
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41. He rolls his sleeves up and Nyquil makes you warm
Yukhhhhhhh Nyquil is horrible and I have to hold my nose when I take it but hell it does give you one hell of a buzz and it knocks you out for hours but it makes you warm.

Notice how he rolls his sleeves up.
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FauxNewsBlues Donating Member (420 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-03 10:52 AM
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43. Nyquil story
When I was in the army (unlike Shrub I didn't go AWOL), during basic training, we were only allowed to go to this small store 3 times. We loaded up on the Nyquil and got drunk. 18 years old, tired, freaked out, and your choice of alcoholic beverages is not very picky.

There are all those stories about Bush drinking "near beer" all the time. He desperately seems to want booze. An Alcoholic drinking near beer religiously, has alot of issues. Near Beer doesn't taste that great.
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OrdinaryTa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-03 10:55 AM
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45. Nyquil and Creme de Menthe
I'm trying to think of appropriate name for nightcaps featuring the blue cold remedy and popular liqueurs.

Nyquil and Creme de Menthe Blue-green in color, over crushed ice it might look like the ocean near the poles. An "Ice Cap"?

Nyquil and White Russian - Light blue like the uniforms of North Carolina basketball players. Call it a "UNC Tonic"?

Nyquil neat - Say, gimme another. I'm sneezing again.

Nyquil by the jug - Call it a "Hurricane Isabel" It knocks you down!
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-03 01:03 PM
Response to Reply #45
55. Comtrex almost put me in a coma
I was knocked out for almost 7 hours and before I "passed out" I was seeing flashes of light and heard buzzing sounds..

I threw the rest of the bottle away.. It scared the hell out of me :(
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-03 01:15 PM
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57.  Bush puffs his cheeks and blows out to relieve the tension after a speech
and this is with friendly audiences.

He really will have to take a couple of strong shots before his big UN engagement when he challenges the assembly to "step up to their responsiblities".
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