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ihaveaquestion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 10:24 AM
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The USA is currently building thirty seven "detention centers" nationwide,
Quote from:
Doris Colmes: ''Papers, please': I smell the long-forgotten rot of fascism'

"After all, the Patriot Act is modeled directly after Gestapo methods: Those 3:00 AM home intrusions -- without warrant or reason for arrest -- will get our undesirable "domestic terrorists" straight to the nearest version of Guantanamo with no need for trial. The USA is currently building thirty seven "detention centers" nationwide, and they'll soon be filled with persons who protest too much, or are simply of the wrong nationality. After all, it worked very well in Germany, successfully eliminating Jews, Gypsies, and anyone willing to stand up, and refuse to "Hail Hitler."
(emphasis mine)


Is this true? Are there "detention centers" being constructed? If so, where and what form are they taking? Are they to be state run or federal? Details please!!!

:scared:
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 10:28 AM
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1. Why are they building, they already are closing the bases?
Edited on Thu Jun-02-05 10:28 AM by goclark
I'm sure that would be enough for them to start rounding us up.

Or, are they arranging jobs state side for the Halliburton crew to make even more money?
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 10:29 AM
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2. camps
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ihaveaquestion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 10:58 AM
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7. I grew up in Prince George's county.
It never had a great economic base other than the federal government offices and one air base - where they park Air Force One.
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 10:29 AM
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3. They've been under construction since the 1980s
To house all who refuse to bow down to Baal when the UN troops land in the black helicopters.
:tinfoilhat:
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 10:30 AM
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4. Yes, it is true....FEMA has been constructing these & its in their domain
It started during the Reagan Years and I wouldn't be surprised if there are more that have been built.

I didn't believe it until I was provided with some info about it and started doing more research...

In an "emergency" (ie. code red alert)for say a "biological dirty bomb or attack" Homeland Security (using FEMA) could declare martial law "for our safety" (ofcourse) and people could be detained (as well as property seized) if they so declare. Don't have all the info available, have to get the kids off to school right now, but I am sure others on the DU can provide you with info...

Forget the name of the Reagan project off the top of my head, but I want to say REX 81 (or something like that).
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 12:29 PM
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14. Wonder how heavily invested Carlyle is
in prison construction... Halliburton? KBR? :shrug:
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Nordmadr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 10:31 AM
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5. I read that too. Here is archived info
linked from the Alex Jones Web Site that talks about detention facilities/camps being built here in the U.S.

http://www.infowars.com/cc_archive.htm

I have found Alex Jones to have good information most of the time, and sometimes a bit over the top, so take it for what it is worth. I think he used to have a free video segment of one of these facilities he actually drove out to and filmed. I am sure there is more info out there.

Olaf
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 10:45 AM
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6. Should detention centers ever be filled, it couldn't happen to a more
deserving populace who have supported the policies, actions, and pre-emptive war(s) of this Administration in numbers much too large to be comprehended.
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ihaveaquestion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 11:02 AM
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8. Link from a reply at Smirking Chimp
http://www.rense.com/general17/statebystate.htm

Lists potential sites - revised 09-2001.
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ihaveaquestion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 11:06 AM
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9. Googling "Concentration camps in the U.S."
brings up links (usually blogs) claiming that there are anywhere from 50 to 800 concentration camps ready for prisoners and that they may even be staffed. Sounds like conspiracy theory stuff to me, but who knows?
:think:
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 05:17 PM
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15. One person's Conspiracy Theory is anothers "Coincidence Theory"...
Don't get me wrong...there are lots of Tinfoil hat folks on the DU and out there in the Blogosphere, so I'm sure you'll turn up lots of interesting things that are way, way out there...

But, I'm a stay home mommy living in Marin County with my kids....come from a Republican Family with my Father who actually worked in the Reagan and Bush I administrations. I asked my Dad about these "camps"...they are real. Ofcourse he comes up with lots of "explanations" as to why under Reagan they had this program. But funny thing is this - its the same people that under Reagan and Bush I that are "driving" this agenda now in the Bush II administration. And my Dad has come around in the last year and said that he doesn't agree with this administration on 99% of things that they are doing and he thinks the Neocon influence is driving the agenda. Dad didn't even vote for Bush in Nov. 04 - first time in his life he did not vote Republican - he voted Libertarian instead (couldn't quite make the leap to vote Dem). But in a nutshell - I'm no "conspiracy theorist" but you can call me that if I can call you a "coincidence theorist". All I know is that I get good information from my father who during the Mid-eighties as someone involved in the Reagan administration would tell me when not to fly due to some of the hijackings. He worked for Bud Mcfarlane in the NSC and lets just say this....people's concern and paranoia these days here on the DU is not "conspiracy"....Dad's retired, but still in contact with people and he can't divulge much, but what he shares, even if non-specific is very clear....Even Dad suggested that our buying property and moving money out of the country was a great idea....conspiracy theory? Hmmmm....but maybe I'll sure be happy I did if it ever gets as bad as it did for my Grandparents in Germany in 1939...they left 2 months after Kristall Nacht from Munich Germany....and were able to do it because they had money and property outside of Germany. Yeah, those camps outside of the outskirts of Munich to the North by a town called Dachau weren't actually occupied immediately after being built.... :eyes: My Grandparents then saw the writing on the wall and I'm sure that when they left Germany, there were a bunch of people thinking they were conspiracy theorists....
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doublethink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 05:30 PM
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16. Google Rex84 Reagan Concentration Camps
Peace. :)
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 11:09 AM
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10.  this is an oldie but goodie
they tried building one in a town north of here but the people stopped it.funny, this is one of the first things i posted about in 2002 and got zero responses to.i did some research about this and found out this detention center construction program started under the clinton administration.
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 11:10 AM
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11. Can You Say FEMA Camps
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 11:18 AM
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12. Hmmm..if they're FEMA, all we have to do is have a
big disaster and these camps can be disguised as "refugee camps", a place for people who have nowhere else to go.

:tinfoilhat:
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 11:40 AM
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13. Prisons are BIG BID'NESS
Edited on Thu Jun-02-05 12:22 PM by Karenina
Slave labor and all. I gotta run down to da Keller. Be back in a few.

OK, Tante found 'em.

http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0233/solomon.php

The Gatekeeper: Watch on the INS
by Alisa Solomon
Detainees Equal Dollars
The Rise in Immigrant Incarcerations drives a prison boom
August 14 - 20, *2002*

It was a shaky spring for the correctional workers of Hastings, Nebraska (pop. 24,064), as the stagnation in the nation's prison population and the increasingly high costs of incarceration jostled the sleepy town, some two hours' drive from Lincoln. On April 9, the 84 employees of the Hastings Correctional Center were told that the 186-bed facility would be closing at the end of June. State funds were scraping bottom, and the $2.5 million annual price tag for the prison was too big a burden to carry. "We really didn't know what we would do," says Jim Morgan, who had been working at HCC for 15 years and lives to this day in the house where he was born. "There aren't a lot of job opportunities out here, and most of us have homes and kids and couldn't even think about moving somewhere else." For two months, the workers scrambled, filling out applications at nearby meatpacking and cardboard-container plants and anticipating long hours in the unemployment office.

Then salvation came from, of all places, the Immigration and Naturalization Service. Days after HCC closed as a state prison in June, it reopened as an INS detention center.

"It's a win-win," says Morgan. The INS is desperate for more beds for its ever expanding detainee population. And the state of Nebraska, collecting $65 per detainee per day from the INS, rakes in more than $1 million a year over and above the cost of running the place.

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Now this next one got put in the box before Tante had figgered out what saving links meant.

Empty Promises
riverfronttimes.com | originally published: February 20, 2002

Missouri has been pouring millions into prisons that aren't being used. But stay tuned: If politicians have their way, there will be plenty of inmates to go around.
BY BRUCE RUSHTON

Locals say the lights always burn at Missouri's largest prison, a sprawling 210-acre complex on the outskirts of Bonne Terre. Scores of orange bulbs, mounted on tall poles, fire up the winter sky and can be seen for miles.
With enough power to turn night into day, the lights make the new Eastern Reception and Diagnostic Center as obvious a landmark as the towering 32-acre mound of lead-mine tailings left behind by the St. Joe lead company. The 2 million-ton dirt heap and a huge underground cavity are the old lead company's legacy to Bonne Terre. Today the abandoned mine, dubbed Billion Gallon Lake, is the world's largest freshwater diving resort, attracting notice from scuba magazines and National Geographic.

Resort or no, Bonne Terre is far from a vacation playland. The town can't afford a new pump for an artificial lake that went dry this winter -- nature lovers had to stare at a muddy hole for weeks until rain filled it. The public schools are the biggest employer. There's a cluster of fast-food restaurants, gas stations and video stores at the highway interchange, but several downtown storefronts are boarded up. Bonne Terre officials thought they'd found the solution to the town's money problems when the state decided to build a $168 million penitentiary that would bring more than 800 jobs. Then there'd be plenty of money for paving potholes and sprucing up the park, they figured.

They figured wrong.

Six months after construction was completed, the prison in Bonne Terre sits empty, a sobering lesson on the fiscal consequences of prison construction that has cost Missouri taxpayers nearly a half-billion dollars since 1994. During the past dozen years, the state's corrections budget has more than doubled, benefiting concrete-pouring contractors and politicians such as the late Gov. Mel Carnahan, who led the push for new prisons while billing himself as a crime-fighter. With the prison-building spree near an end, the state now says it doesn't have enough money to open the Bonne Terre lockup, designed to house the state's most dangerous inmates.

It is a VERY.LONG.PIECE. Mebbe one of da chilluns be chivalrous and find out if it has gone down the memory hole...
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