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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 02:30 PM
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Disturbing Dream
John McCain was doing a speech.

This is part of what the announcer said.

"He ran for President 3 times". I think McCain finally gets the nomination.

But, it's not the McCain I know and supported in my former Conservative days.

McCain is as pale as a ghost and he was constantly rambling and a lot of it was about Chelsea Clinton.

What's up with that?
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Democracy White Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 02:50 PM
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1. Maybe Chelsea
will run for President in the future and somehow McCain is 150 years olds?

Heck I'm not in a dream interpretive mode right now. I have just listened to Boosh and his new conference and I am ticked off.

Dee
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hector459 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 08:25 AM
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7. BINGO!!! I have always said that Chelsea would be the first female Pres.
She's going to pay the thugs back big time by running and winning in 2012
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Benbow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 01:27 AM
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2. McCain = son of Cain; 3 bushes with mark of Cain
Only you can ever know what your dream means but here is my three halfpennies' worth of interpretation.

* That the dream is about having a third Bush as President - Jeb being the third;

* that the reference to McCain is because of the "Cain" in the name (and Mc or Mac, in the celtic languages, meaning "son of"), and some people have said that * has the "mark of Cain" on him (ie murderer).

Not sure at the moment about the Chelsea Clinton part; except perhaps one day there will be a third Clinton President (after Hillary comes Chelsea?)

Hope this helps.
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 02:56 AM
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4. Just out of dumb curiosity...
who's said that Bush bears the mark of Cain? I thought I knew all the occultish, Biblical, astrological theories surrounding him, but I've never heard about that. Where is it (the mark)? Nothing against you for posting that--I happen to be downright captivated by Bush/Cheney's astrological charts (if you've read about those or done them yourself, you know they're SCARY)--I'm just really interested now. Is it on his face? Is that why he's been wearing so damn much makeup lately?
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Benbow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 07:30 AM
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6. I can't find where I saw it but here are some related references
In the interview with Thom Hartmann, MP George Galloway said this of the UK Prime Minister,


(Blair) will be followed into the history books and into the grave with this mark of Cain on his forehead. He will be remembered for nothing other than that he followed George W. Bush over a cliff; took the rest of us with them, and we haven't yet reached the bottom, I'm afraid.


though not (yet) of Bush except by association (Galloway said that Blair and Bush seem to believe that they have "the right to step outside of international law; go anywhere, do anything, pay any price in other people's blood, to reshape the world in their image; in the image that they want to see. And I think that both men will be damned in history. Both men have made their respective countries the two most hated countries in the world.")

http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0528-27.htm

Lieutenant-Colonel Tim Collins, of the 1st Battalion of the Royal Irish, addressed his soldiers about Iraq being an ancient land where the invading armies should tread lightly, and said men who killed unnecessarily would have "the mark of Cain" on them forever. Cf this Guardian report of April 2003

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,928485,00.html

Here, it says that George Bush printed out his speech and pinned on the wall in the Oval Office,

http://www.aljazeerah.info/Opinion%20editorials/2003%20Opinion%20Editorials/May/24%20o/Is%20Col%20Tim%20Collins%20a%20Hero%20or%20War%20Criminal,%20Stephen%20Moss.htm

In Die Zeit, "the Vietnam War is America's mark of Cain"

http://zeus.zeit.de/text/2005/20/aussenpolitik_englisch


I hadn't realised, until today, that Christian fundamentalists in the USA believe that black people are descended from Cain. If that isn't bigotry, I don't know what is.

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Democracy White Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 06:07 PM
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8. astrology fan here
where can I find the astrological charts and explainations for Bush/Cheney?

Dee
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lostnfound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 02:21 AM
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3. McCain made an awful comment about Chelsea Clinton
Said she was the family dog.

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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 03:01 AM
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5. My disturbing dreams have stopped recently.
Edited on Wed Jun-01-05 03:02 AM by BlueIris
Which is a good thing, I think. I had some very positive ones after the election, but the last dream I had of the "real" future wasn't pretty. It was so not pretty I don't think I should post it. Anyway, that was months ago, and we're all still here, dire predictions of doomsday in June notwithstanding. And hey, I think those predictions are worth heeding and taking action about--sign the damn Conyers' petition if you haven't already--I just personally haven't felt any subconscious ripples of impending universal destruction in awhile.
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 06:15 PM
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9. I think I can interpret my dream
IMO, I think dreams are very important.

Believe it or not, it was a dream that led me to find the Council for National Policy.

I think something may happen to McCain to make him sick looking and acting strange.

This thing that happens to him will sort of be like Bush's wire, I think it will make him very easy to influence, sort of like Raygun with Alzheimer's.

I hope nothing happens to John.
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