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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 05:02 PM
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AP: "I point to where the pain is, they take it as a joke and they laugh."
LONDON - One Guantanamo prisoner told a military panel that American troops beat him so badly he wets his pants now. Another detainee claimed U.S. troops stripped prisoners in Afghanistan and intimidated them with dogs so they would admit to militant activity. Tales of alleged abuse and forced confessions are among some 1,000 pages of tribunal transcripts the U.S. government released to The Associated Press under a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit — the second batch of documents the AP has received in 10 days

The testimonies offer a glimpse into the secretive world of Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, where about 520 men from 40 countries remain held, accused of having links to Afghanistan's ousted Taliban regime or Osama bin Laden's al-Qaida network. Many have been held for three years....

"Americans hit me and beat me up so badly I believe I'm sexually dysfunctional. I don't know if I'll be able to sleep with my wife or not," he said. "I can't control my urination, and sometimes I put toilet paper down there so I won't wet my pants. I point to where the pain is. ... I think they take it as a joke and they laugh."

...."As he was hitting me, I kept telling him, no I didn't receive training. I was crying and finally I told him I did receive the training. My hands were tied behind my back and my knees were on the ground and my head was bleeding. I was in a lot of pain. ... At that point, with all my suffering, if he had asked me if I was Osama bin Laden, I would have said yes.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050530/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/guantanamo_inside_the_tribunals

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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 05:05 PM
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1. That prisoner's story is really quaint.


:grr:
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 05:18 PM
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2. A five and a kick
:kick:
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 05:21 PM
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3. only someone who hates america would even read this
willful ignorance will save us!
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 05:28 PM
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bamademo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 05:35 PM
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5. Just Harmless Frat Boy Pranks...
...:mad:

Winning the hearts and minds of the Muslim people. Have you noticed how Middle Eastern men are replacing black men as the boogie man to America? Instead of Mississippi Burning it's the Middle East burning.

:mad:
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 05:56 PM
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8. we, the new nazis, they, the new jews
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Gelliebeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 05:51 PM
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6. This is a horrible but necessary
post Bluebear. Nominated.
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 05:55 PM
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7. let's face it, they ain't exactly human so it's o.k.
the soldiers that is. i can sympathize with some of the troops, but not the fucking nazi ones. this shit was all sanctioned from on high, you can bet the farm on it. when the soldiers kick the man in the groin, it's bushco and his supporters kicking.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 06:35 PM
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9. Of course I abhor the abuse....
and fully believe the orders came from on high, but it's the cover-up that is insidious as well.
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oxbow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 07:45 PM
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10. I feel sick
poor guy. I see nothing about this in the MSM either. I wish the ACLU could get some photos with their freedom of info act.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 07:47 PM
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11. Me too. n/t
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 07:56 PM
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12. "I'm talking about people having a good time,
these people, you ever heard of emotional release? You ever heard of need to blow some steam off?"

http://mediamatters.org/items/200405050003

As far as I'm concerned, Fat Lizard is just as guilty as the torturers. I hope to see IT on trial soon for abetting war crimes.

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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 07:58 PM
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13. How about the American that went down there undercover
and had his 'safe' word completely ignored, and now has brain damage from the beatings.

Don't hear much about that guy in the liberal media :eyes:
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Frederik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 08:21 PM
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14. Amnesty is right
It is today's Gulag and the responsible should be prosecuted.
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CitySky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 01:01 PM
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15. the Administration just blows off these reports
by saying that all the former detainees are lying.

so if former detainees are your source for the info, it's automatically discredited. (you know, 'cause lots of guys like to go around bragging about their sexual disfunction for political purposes.)

this makes me so sick.
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Frederik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 01:15 PM
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16. 4 men charged so far...
"With only four men charged to date and military trials stalled because of appeals in U.S. courts, it may be even longer before the fate of the prisoners is sorted out."

But don't worry, General Myers assured us all that the detainees were going to "slit our children's throats" if released. So we better keep them locked up there.

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