Told KnightRidder rep that Cspan claimed UK memo was "internet rumor"

[blm]

and that they were hanging up on any caller who referred to it.

He was NOT HAPPY as his paper put that story on the front page locally.

He said he would make sure that the national headquarters knew what Cspan was up to and how they are treating their story.

I also asked if they can get the writers on the UK memo story to appear on Cspan to refute the smear personally. He said he'd suggest it.

I think we should email and phone Cspan requesting that a KnightRidder reporter like Jonathan Landay be an hourlong guest.

If Cspan refuses, then we fight to expose their complicity in the cover-up.

[ClassWarrior]

1. nice - kicking...

NGU.

[EVDebs]

42. Knight Ridder....helped ease Gary Webb out of existence read

http://ist-socrates.berkeley.edu/~pdscott/webb.html

"It was a miracle he didn't do this back when San Jose Mercury News editor Jerry Ceppos, now 58 and vice president of the Knight-Ridder news company, cocked the shotgun and pulled the trigger on the most authentic journalistic career of the late 20th Century. That was the day that the bullet flew out of the cartridge and, as if in very slow motion, took years to reach Gary's head..."

Knight Ridder. Looks like Operation Mockingbird is tweeting right along, even as we speak.

[blm]

46. KR is doing the UK story and the rest are trying to gaslight them and us.

That is the same method they used on Webb's story.

BushInc got the rest of the media to hammer Knight-Ridder over Webb's story of CIA drugdealing. They hammered Kerry, too. Webb was counting on a Kerry presidency to open the documents he needed to prove his story was legit.

If we let the media get away with doing it again, this time to Jonathan Landay, then what the hell have we learned from what happened to Mike Webb?

[EVDebs]

63. The public, discussing Operation Mockingbird openly is anathema

to M$M. Just keep talking about it...they can't stop us now. In fact, they'll eventually have to open 'investigations' where limited hangouts of information trickles out. This is still progress. They want to protect the 'family jewels' but don't realize the Emperor Has No Clothes !

[Moochy]

2. cspan

Which show was that on?

[merbex]

3. Washington Journal n/t

[Hissyspit]

8. Thanks.

[Hissyspit]

5. Yes, that would be interesting to know. Kicking and nominating.

By the way, thinking it is just an internet rumor is getting the story wrong. Another way to phrase getting the story wrong is: "doing a SHITTY job at what you are supposed to be doing."

[sarcasmo]

4. Expose the cover up what a great idea. Cspan here come my emails.

[annabanana]

6. Astounding!

INTERNET RUMOR!?!?!
:mad: :mad: :argh: :wow:
:nuke: :nuke: :nuke:

C-Span REALLY needs to hear from us!

[Moochy]

13. Lies, Damn Lies and the Internets

You see this is why its not right for supreme court justices to use the internets, they are full of lies.

I think that the "Iraq WMD" Internet rumor was probably cooked up in the #neocons chat group hosted at vp.whitehouse.gov.

Darn those internets! :eyes:

[tsuki]

24. Day three. No response. No surprise. eom

[steve2470]

7. kick nt

[Helga Scow Stern]

9. Recommending! This is very important. n/t

[annabanana]

10. email

Email:
[email protected]

[earthside]

11. More details, please.

I find this hard to believe ... though I'm not doubting you.

What time was this program on?
Today?
Who was the guest?
Who said the Downing Street Memo was an "internet rumor"?
Was it the guest or a caller?
Who was the host?

[Viva_La_Revolution]

17. links to DU Discussions...

C-span this morning regarding Downing Street memo
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=1814999

C-SPAN avoiding the Downing Street memo
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=3739384#

Brian Lamb deflects CSPAN Journal Caller Question on Iraq/ Brit 8-mo memo
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=320x341#402


DU Action Reporting at it's best!

[blm]

25. IMPORTANT POST.....READ ^^^^ABOVE^^^^POST. DU links on Cspan.

Thanks Viva

[peacetalksforall]

12. You need to create a timeline related to C-Span denials. Anyone

claiming this needs to support it. It wouldn't be that difficult to come up with approximate dates. Knight-Ridder will be asked, I would assume.

[smiley]

14. I saw this post yesterday

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3749991

Is this the first post concerning CSPAN disregarding the downing street memo?

[proud patriot]

15. Keep us posted as how we can help

:hi:

[Griffy]

16. Call Conyers office.. ask him make 1 phone call to Cspan..

It would take him just a few minutes... and HE could simply say..

The memo is not a rumor, it is real and contains information CRITICAL to the American public... I strongly request you cover this developing issue immediatly..

or something firm like that..

Like Joe Madison said..

[converted_democrat]

18. Thank youBLM!!!! I was tired of being hung up on!!!

[blm]

51. I was tired of HEARING you get hung up on.

That's how I figured we should just TELL news organizations how their real news stories are being treated by broadcast media and let them call and complain and force a better hearing.

[nashville_brook]

19. sent email

thanks for the heads' up.

unbelievable!

[bush_is_wacko]

20. Without a doubt...

Can you post a link in this thread to the C-Span powers that be? I'm sure many of us would be willing to write to them.

[blm]

36. annabanana posted Cspan email at reply #10

.

[bush_is_wacko]

48. Thanks, I'll get something out either today or tomorrow. n/t

[enigmatic]

21. unbelieveable...

Actually, I CAN believe they are trying to bury this, and it makes me sick..

[impeachthescoundrel]

22. Done Deal n/t

[Cha]

23. c-span does

some good things but they can be so goddamn dense sometimes..is that because of brian lamb?

[Califooyah Operative]

26. done and passed on nt

[Zhade]

27. Nicely done, blm!

:toast:

[pacalo]

28. Do you have a link to his KR article?

[steve2470]

39. knight ridder link to original article

http://www.realcities.com/mld/krwashington/11574296.htm

[AuntiBush]

52. http://www.johnconyers.com has the MEMO!

He needs 100,000 signatures: Unsure if he rec'd enough. It's found at:
http://www.johnconyers.campaignoffice.com/index.asp?Type=SUPERFORMS&SEC={0F1B03E0-080B-4100-B143-36A5985EF1E3}

The letter (below): http://www.johnconyers.com/

May 27, 2005

Dear Friend:

As many of you are aware, a classified memo was recently disclosed in Great Britain that I believe has serious ramifications for the integrity of the United States Government. Dubbed the “Downing Street Memo,” but actually comprising the minutes of a meeting of Prime Minister Tony Blair and other top British government officials, the memo casts serious doubt on many of the contentions of the Bush Administration in the lead up to the Iraq war. With over 1,600 U.S. servicemen and servicewomen killed in Iraq, the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Iraqis, and over $200 billion in taxpayer funds going to this war effort, we cannot afford to stand by any longer.

Along with 88 of my colleagues, I wrote to the President requesting answers about this grave matter. Thus far, our search for the truth has been stonewalled and I need your help. I believe the American people deserve answers about this matter and should demand directly that the President tell the truth about the memo. To that end, I am asking you to sign on to a letter to the President requesting he answer the questions posed to him by 89 Members of Congress.

I will personally insure that this letter is delivered to the White House.

You can read the letter here and sign on to it below. You and I know the White House is just hoping that this matter will fade away, but in a few short weeks, with our steadfastness, the memo has found its way into leading newspapers and White House press briefings. With your help, we can hold this Administration accountable.

Please pass on this important letter to your friends and colleagues, and ask them to sign as well.

Thank you for your help and support.

John Conyers, Jr.

[Pirate Smile]

29. blm, you are awesome! Did you just call KnightRidder or how did

you go about contacting them?

Great idea and good work.

:yourock: :patriot:

[blm]

35. I called local KRT paper, but, we should all call NATIONAL HQ tomorrow

to share with them Cspan's take on the UK memo.

If you call your local Knight Ridder Tribune paper to complain, ask for the national desk. Remind them that Knight Ridder reporters are the ones who broke the story here in the US and that their integrity is being challenged every time Cspan hangs up on a caller who mentions their UK memo story.

[Nothing Without Hope]

30. Not CSPAN, but very relevant - Cofounder of CNN advocates LYING to public

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=3730041
Thread title: "Co-founder of CNN, Says "The Public Does Not Have a Right to Know"

Here's my favorite quote - for more, go to the thread:

GIBSON: OK, but would you have - by that same reasoning would you have not reported Abu Ghraib if somebody had brought you those pictures.

SCHONFELD (co-founder of CNN): Abu Ghraib is the greatest foul up of all time. Those pictures were on the internet. The problem is not that we were - we - I only wish the Pentagon could have been able to deny that story, to be able to li - that's the right of the Pentagon to lie, when it is in the country's best interest to lie, you do lie. And when I made that statement in my book, an undersecretary - well - at Defense told me I don't have it quite right, the - uh - Rumsfeld, the Secretary can never lie but any, anybody under him can, that you have to do it when it's in the public, in the government interest.

[oasis]

38. Lying's okay when it's "in the government interest."

yup.

[Nothing Without Hope]

47. And THIS lying - about the torture photos - would have been a coverup

of blatant law-breaking.

So much for the Third Estate as a check on governmental abuse of power and criminal corruption. It's sickening that he sees nothing wrong with it, he' thinks it's patriotic. Kool-Aid, anyone?

[oasis]

64. What next? Rummy decides what's "fit to print". A Fox News wet dream.

[oxbow]

31. Anyone have video evidence of this?

Any Tivo owners out there tape the Washington Journal episodes where all this happenned? It would really make our case more powerful to have that video.

[Terre]

44. You could start here

at the Washington Journal Online Archives:

http://www.c-span.org/homepage.asp?Cat=Series&Code=WJE&ShowVidNum=6&Rot_Cat_CD=WJ&Rot_HT=206&Rot_WD=&ShowVidDays=100&ShowVidDesc=&ArchiveDays=30

I'm starting with 5/27/05

[Buddyblazon]

32. I had said on an earlier post this last Friday...

I got through on the call in line for WJ.

The operator asks me my question. As they had a reporter on who had said there is no Liberal OR Conservative bias, I phrased my question so:

"The reporter says there is no Conservative bias in the media...but why is the MSM refusing to cover the Downing Street Memo?"

*Long silence on the phone.


"Sir...are you for the Democrats or the Republicans?"

"The Democrats."

"Call the other line." *CLICK



SHE HUNG UP ON ME!

Why would that not be the first question? Are you Dem or Pub? Then you can figure out if my question should get on the air. But why would you ask that...AFTER YOU'VE HEARD THE QUESTION?

Well it's pretty obvious to me.

[Nothing Without Hope]

33. Highly relevant - this happened on a local CNN station - LYING re Memo:

This is in another thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=1814999
Thread title: “C-span this morning regarding Downing Street memo”

The DU poster says that the host did not answer questions from two callers about the memo, then when asked so directly that he could not evade, he said he had never heard of the Downing St Memo, the caller would have to Google it. (More in the thread.)

[wryter2000]

34. Good grief!

How the fuck could they be so ignorant?

[blm]

37. I wish it was ignorance, but, I believe it's complicity. No way did they

NOT see the article when it was on the front page of most Knight Ridder papers.

If Washington Journal is AVOIDING referencing Knight Ridder papers, that should be a story in itself. Didn't Rove kick Knight Ridder reporters off the campaign plane?

[KoKo]

40. When C-Span lists Free Republic on their site and not DU then you know

there's "trouble afoot."

I've often thought they "Sacrifice" Washington Journal to allow great Book Reviewers for the Left Wing. Since they are only online because of Congresses agreement with Cables in a bill way back they have to lick "jack boots."

But appreciate your efforts blm....we've gotta keep after them. And if we can get pressure maybe Brian Lamb can show his "Board of Bush Investors and lick ups" that he has to do something because the "pressure" is too great. The American People now "Know" and he really has to let the info go? :shrug: Notice that the "Washington Journal"
facilitators only ready copy from articles that are "Mainstream/Pro Bush" in the morning. I'll bet Knight-Ridder papers get little attention there. I had to stop watching "WJ" becaue I couldn't stand the Freep callers...but it's time to pressure them, agreed.

[wryter2000]

49. What??!!

I had no effing idea!

Damn, and I love CSPAN. I wonder when they'll start doctoring the live broadcasts of Congress. :cry:

[annabanana]

41. keep it kicked for am cube rats... . . .n/t

[Clark2008]

43. What's more than amazing is that most of these "Internet rumors"

are more credible than anything the corporate media whores push these days.

[Pacifist Patriot]

45. Amazing! I'm in the middle of watching the Conyers Free Speech

hearing (taped from CSPAN). Scary, scary, scary.

[Kansas Wyatt]

50. Wonder how many Americans know the U.S. ranks 29th?

I knew we weren't the best, but being ranked 29th still gut-checks the World's alleged 'Greatest Democracy.'

[AuntiBush]

53. I guess CONGRESSMAN Conyers isn't CREDITABLE enough!?!

C-Span... the only thing keeping me hanging on to Direct-TV.

Found at Freed Speech Org.: If you click on "Online Store" in the upper top section, they're offering 180 channels & the Free Speech channel w/their line-up.

http://www.freespeech.org/fsitv/fscm2/genx.php?name=great_websites

I'm long past my 1 year w/DTV. May 31 ends their special so... ;)

[blm]

54. Personally, I think the right has labeled Conyers a "conspiracy nut" so

no matter what he says or does, they can complain that he isn't credible because he's so partisan and makes wild accusations.

So, anytime Conyers speaks out the Repubs are thrilled, as they have defined him with the media the way they have defined Michael Moore. The media will pick at the "partisanship" and "conspiracy" labels without getting into the facts or details.

[hnsez]

55. post DSM to every front door in your hood

[spooky3]

58. yeah, but what about those 80+ congresspeople who signed the petition?

[EnfantTerrible]

56. I guess this is just a rumor too

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-1632566,00.html

Bombing from the INTERNETS

[berni_mccoy]

57. WOW!

CSpan was the last vestige of responsible journalism on cable TV... they just went out the door with the rest of them (CNN, MSNBC, Fox,...)...

I guess the American public has to rely on foreign sources for accurate reporting now.

[Catherine Vincent]

59. I just viewed the tape of Peter questioning the caller about the memo.

I am really surprised Peter would say something like that. He was just playing dumb because we know he knows about that memo. Granted, they aren't supposed to comment about stuff but they shouldn't question guests on their motives.

And Peter was embarrassed by a caller after that when some older woman was talking about the previous guest stating that she should have pulled her dress up. She told Peter that he may want to look at her body but we don't. When she said that, Peter just blushed uncontrollably. LOL. I really think he was looking at the guest's breasts. LOL.

[dennis4868]

60. That did not stop.....

C-SPAN from talking about every rumor about Clinton during the 1990s!

C-SPAN = AMERICAN ENTERPRISE INSTITUTE

[leftchick]

61. AND They Read from the fucking Moonie Times Every Morning!

:grr:

[blm]

62. I think Moon owns the studio Cspan uses. I know he owns alot of studios

around the DC area.

[mmonk]

65. We could tell Cspan

that we will seek to remove it from cable packages in major markets if it doesn't start carrying true major issues in an open and honest manner.