Whoopi's Bitter

[kskiska]

WHOOPI Goldberg is still mad at the Democrats. Goldberg, who was renounced last summer after making a lame double entendre about George W. Bush at a John Kerry fund-raiser, told Air America's "Politically Correct" host David Bender: "My party abandoned me. There's no other way to say it: they put their tails between their legs and they ran. I've closed my eyes to the party. I haven't turned my back on them, but I no longer feel comfortable saying that I feel like I'm represented by them. Until people can stand up for what's right in the face of whatever is flying at you, nothing is going to change."

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[Wickerman]

1. Poor Whoopi, she should know only Laura can make

lame double entendres at the expense of King George the lessor.

[hippiechick]

2. She's right, too.

..."Until people can stand up for what's right in the face of whatever is flying at you, nothing is going to change."...

[lateo]

7. Yep.

The Democrats don't care about their base anymore....they just pander to us.

[Warpy]

11. Hell, they don't even do that much

Read Kerry's platform, lifted word for word from the DLC site. Those are great programs for YUPPIES, but most of us out here in workaday land are not yuppies! The economic populism that Clinton used so well was no longer there.

The Dems need to toss the DLC and sit down and shut up and LISTEN to the base for a change. I'd suggest party bosses go to a few meetups and listen to what ordinary folks are saying about them.

The party lost its way a long time ago when it abandoned the working people of this country, and the working people noticed. The party has offered most working people exactly NOTHING while the GOP offered them tax cuts. Then the party wondered why they kept losing.

Whoopi's right. The party left US in favor of the gloss and glitz of the urban and corporate.

[SCDem]

3. What I have to say

Don't complain - take action!
The democratic party is made up of people like me you and Whoopi. If you don't like what is being said or done than do something to make it different.

I'm too much of a Dean Democrat these days to put up with complaining on our side. If you don't like how something works that work to make it different. It will take time and not happen as fast as you want it to but if you just stay and complain it will be that much longer till change does come about.

[G_j]

9. well I would say

that anyone who has written and called their Congress people a hundred times over, campaigned for candidates, registered people to vote, written LTTEs etc, etc, (as many here have) has every right to complain.

[jrthin]

20. Thank You Very Much.

Well stated. And as one of the people who have taken action through contribution of my time and money, I must say I am sicken by today's dem leadership, or lack thereof.

[Larkspur]

10. I'm a Dean-ocrat too and am involved in my local Dem Committee

but I sure don't feel like my Dem leaders are representing me, and based upon Robert Greenleaf's leadership theory, followers, like me, do have a right to upbraid our leaders as well as find new ones. But it will take time, years, to reform the Dem Party from the grassroots upwards.

I live in Connecticut, Lieberman's state, and I will tell you now, that should Lieberman be the Dem senate nominee in 2006, I will NOT vote for him. He's too much of a GOP Appeaser and does not represent me.

[Blue_Roses]

16. well said

:thumbsup:

[bluestateguy]

4. Well her tirade did not help

I mean, Kerry lost because of Kerry, but her R-rated tirade at the fundraiser was not helpful, nor necessary. That kind of stuff does not go over well with white men in Missouri.

[CatWoman]

8. oh, give me a fucking break!!!!!

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[MadHound]

15. Hey, I'm a white man in Missouri

And I thought her tirade was great! Several other white men here in Missouri loved it too. Her tirade didn't go over well with the wingers and fundies in any of the states, including yours. But then again, truth never does sit well with these people.

[G_j]

22. litmus test?

If it causes the wingers and fundies to get bent out of shape, then there must be an element of truth to it.

[earth mom]

25. Speaking of R rated...it's only okay when Laura Bush says it, right?

:eyes:

[demnan]

5. I have to agree

I remember how funny she was at Clinton's first Inauguaral concert. She was adlibing and joking about the gowns and costumes. Of course that was such a happy time.

[kskiska]

14. Wasn't Whoopi entertaining at a private fundraiser?

Clinton's inaugural concert was a public event.

[ThomWV]

6. Exactly How I Feel

I feel abandoned by my party as well. A bunch of wimps who fight hard for their own enrichment to my detriment, no better or worse than the #$%^&ing Republicans if you ask me. I knew this the day Robert Byrd voted for the anti-bankruptcy/credit card bill.

I would be one of the first to sign up for a party with balls, something we sure do not have now.

[Toots]

12. She speaks for millions of people

If the Democrats don't start standing on some principle they will get less than half the votes they received last election and in the next maybe less than half of that number. they are a party in decline because they don't STAND for anything.

[Bluerthanblue]

17. she's right....or should i say

... she's correct- in speaking her heart- in having the courage to put words to her angst.

Yin and ...it isn't YANG- it's a watered down version of Yang
Black and ...grey... not white

i couldn't vote for Dean because even though i felt he represented my views more accurately, i felt he was too... honest? real? in your face democratic? and would never be 'elected' because of that-

With thinking such as that, we are all compromising- Kuscinch is even closer to what i believe, or (not joking) Al Sharpton-

but i threw myself behing Kerry, feeling he was (and IS) a far FAR better leader than what we now are stuck with, and any other candidate wouldn't have a ghost of a chance-

compromise-.... i understand her bitterness- but i also believe she will work through it eventually.

[ThomWV]

21. I disagree

This is not a matter of candidates, good or bad. Its a matter of a Party that has lost its bearing, meaning, and sense of responsibility to those it is supposed to represent.

Its not Dean, its not Kerry, its not any of the other good men and women who belong to the party, its the party itself. We are the great 'ball-less' party. When the Freepers call Democrats Pussys they are right. We don't stand up for ANYTHING.

[Bluerthanblue]

23. should we really

base our stand on a 'party' or on the views espoused by an individual that most closely match our own- ??

Someone posted lately about how... either Madison or Jefferson was afraid that this nation would come down to a 2 party system, and that that would be the end of everything that is GOOD about America- individual thought- the true freedom to think as an INDIVIDUAL- not be bound to a 'herd' or 'flock' mentality-

in saying this, i realize that there HAS to be a 'following' behind a handful of the 'best' candidates, but 'parties' ???? i'm not so sure that's all that helpful, - one 'party' cannot represent the diverse views represented right here on DU-

i understand what you are saying, but i'm not sure there can be a 'true' united 'party' and when the freepers call 'Dems' pussys, they aren't really denegrating us, they are saying WE are the real spirit of America- the notion of the freedom of INDIVIDUAL thinkers to choose the best among many to lead the nation.- not a nation of followers, but a country of thinking, acting, involved INDIVIDUALS- who choose to work together.

[flordehinojos]

18. we can applaud galloway for speaking up--but we have to flame whoopi for

speaking truth to power... my, o my! has the world changed any?

[realFedUp]

19. all I can say....

[xchrom]

24. god, i LOVE whoopi.