'HE SCREAMED OUT, 'ALLAH! ALLAH! ALLAH!''

[PsychoDad]

Afghan prisoners were 'tortured to death' by American guards

By Justin Huggler, Asia Correspondent
21 May 2005


Shocking and detailed accounts have emerged of how two Afghan prisoners were tortured to death by American interrogators and prison guards at Bagram air base, outside Kabul.
...
The leaked report contains graphic details of a culture of abuse at Bagram, where detainees are held while the US military decides whether to send them to Guantanamo. In sworn statements, US soldiers tell of a woman interrogator with a taste for humiliation who stepped on the neck of one detainee and kicked another in the genitals.

They also tell of Specialist Damien Corsetti, an interrogator called "Monster" - he had the word tattooed in Italian across his chest - who one sergeant praised as the "king of torture". One Saudi detainee testified that Spc Corsetti held his penis against his face and threatened to rape him.
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"He screamed out, 'Allah! Allah! Allah!' and my first reaction was that he was crying out to his God," Spc Jones said. "Everybody heard him cry out and thought it was funny." The report says it became a running joke and prison guards kicked Dilawar just to hear him scream "Allah". "It went on over a 24-hour period, and I would think that it was over 100 strikes," he said.

More here:
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/asia/story.jsp?story=640070

The nazi crusade continues as "freedom is on the march". News you'll never see in the US media.

[kiki]

1. Why do right-wingers hate the human race? n/t

[PsychoDad]

3. "Everybody heard him cry out and thought it was funny."

How can any human being think that another's cry of pain is "funny"? These people are losing their humanity and becoming monsters... and that's what the world sees, the american monster.

[kiki]

4. They sure make good stormtroopers though.

Just for future reference.

[arcane1]

12. sadly, they don't join the military to pet kittens

:cry:

[LynnTheDem]

31. And my 20-year career officer army hubby didn't join to TORTURE people.

[Mojorabbit]

43. I have family in the military too

and they never have behaved this way. You can't paint everyone with the same brush.

[mopaul]

2. torture is cool now

one time i saw a screening of 'platoon' and some of the most horrific scenes illicited laughter from the teens. some folks just see humor where i don't, and vice versa.

[Vincardog]

23. Laughter is one way to release nervous energy. They may have been horrified

by the pictures and laughed to release the energy. We can hope they were not psychopaths thinking horrific scenes were funny.

[REACTIVATED IN CT]

26. I love St Pickles of the Pantsuit! n/t

[beam me up scottie]

5. christ

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The harrowing stories of the deaths of Habibullah and Dilawar told in the report could prove as damaging to the US as the photographs of prisoner abuse at Abu Ghraib jail in Iraq.

The report reveals that Dilawar, a taxi driver, died despite the fact that most of the interrogators were convinced he was innocent.

There will be fears of an explosive reaction in Afghanistan. The New York Times report comes a week after at least 15 people were killed in protests in Afghanistan triggered by a Newsweek report which said US interrogators at Guantanamo Bay had flushed a copy of the Koran down a lavatory. Newsweek has since retracted the report, saying it was based on a flawed source.

But The New York Times story will not go away so easily for the Bush administration. Its source is the findings of the US military's own investigation. It also comes at a dangerous time in Afghanistan, with violence increasing and signs that the Taliban may be resurgent.
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*emphasis mine

[Zhade]

8. Oh yeah, because the NYT has been SO hard on b*s*co!

What a crock!

:hi: BMUS.

[beam me up scottie]

22. Hi Zhade. nt

[LynnTheDem]

32. "triggered by a Newsweek report " BULLSHIT.

DAMN! The media just won't stop LYING!

US Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Myers; "nothing at all to do with that magazine article"

Afghanistan president Karzai; “These demonstrations were in reality not related to the Newsweek story,”

NOT RELATED to Newsweek. GET OVER IT, US MEDIA.

[beam me up scottie]

36. Where is the outrage over this?

The Newsweek story, even if it were true, pales in comparison.

[LynnTheDem]

38. Outrage? I'm still in total absolute stunned SHOCK over this!

The outrage will come, for me, after the numbness wears off.

For the rest of America, I don't know WTF the problem is. I hope they're just numb with total shock as well.

If not, we're all f*cked.

[beam me up scottie]

40. I had to retreat yesterday

after I read this. I couldn't deal with it.
What gets me are some of the glib posts on this thread.
Talk about numb...

[LynnTheDem]

42. It's often a cover for shock & horror.

Sometimes ya gotta make glib remarks or just spontaneously combust.

:hug:

[Zhade]

6. "Everybody heard him cry out and thought it was funny."

We are SO the new Nazis.

[killbotfactory]

7. terrorist inquizition

Fire up the death chamber in gitmo and sing the national anthem.

[Zhade]

10. Is that Ratzinger in the background?

Oh, this isn't contemporary, never mind.

:evilgrin:

[mopaul]

9. "Everybody heard him cry out and thought it was funny."

"Everybody heard him cry out and thought it was funny."

"Everybody heard him cry out and thought it was funny."

"Everybody heard him cry out and thought it was funny."

[gratuitous]

17. Luke 22:63-65

Now the men who wre holding him began to mock him and beat him; they also blindfolded him and kept asking, "Prophesy! Who is it that struck you?" They kept heaping many other insults on him.

______________

No doubt this poor man's good Christian captors would find no parallel between their behavior and that of Jesus' guards.

[understandinglife]

11. Have sent the following to every person I know:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3699246

Peace.


www.missionnotaccomplished.us

[PsychoDad]

29. Indeed.

The hands of Bush are drenched in the blood of these people... and by extension the GOP's and all americans who voted for this criminal.

May Allah accept the martyerdom of this brother, and of all the innocents who have died in this crusade.

And may God have mercy upon the American soldiers who have enough humanity to know this is wrong, and those who have the coviction to say "no more".

Salaam

[elshiva]

13. Sorry! That is NOT funny at all! What evil idiots!

Sorry to be an American. :cry:

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

14. If he had called "Jesus, Jesus, Jesus", America would be aghast.

Just imagine if an American prisoner was being tortured by the "insurgents" and called out "Jesus, Jesus, Jesus" while the torturers laughed.

I doubt if the indifference of the public would be the same.

[Bouncy Ball]

16. I doubt it, too.

[Ms. Clio]

20. The frenzy would be incredible

I can just imagine the outraged demands to "nuke the savages back to the Stone Age."

Jesus.

It's all too heartbreakingly clear who the savages are here.

[beam me up scottie]

15. .

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The first, Habibullah, was captured in November 2002. He was locked in an isolation cell with his hands shackled to the wire ceiling over his head. The report describes how he was literally kicked to death over several days.

The guards found him "uncooperative", and he was given multiple "peroneal strikes" - a disabling blow to the leg just above the knee. "That was kind of like an accepted thing; you could knee somebody in the leg," former Sgt Thomas Curtis told investigators.

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When Habibullah started coughing up phlegm and complaining of chest pains, the guards laughed at him. Eventually his dead body was found hanging from the handcuffs that still chained him to the ceiling. A post-mortem examination found that he was probably killed by a blood clot, caused by the leg injuries, which travelled to his heart and blocked the blood supply to his lungs.
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[TomClash]

18. This truly sickens me

Do these fascist idiots want EVERYONE to hate America?

[JohnyCanuck]

25. In a word, Yes.

It makes it easier to get the brianwashed US population to go along with bombing the crap out of the enemy of the day (See Orwell's 1984) and taking their oil. With orbiting space based weapon platforms, and the police state infrastructure being brought into place to control the freedom of the civilian population, it's not like they feel they will really have to worry about any meaningful retaliation. Or so their thinking probably goes.

[beam me up scottie]

19. .

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Dilawar, a taxi driver, was detained in December 2002 as he drove past a US base that had earlier come under rocket attack. Passengers he had picked up were carrying suspicious items.

Spc Corey Jones, an interrogator, told investigators that Dilawar spat in his face. He responded with a couple of knee strikes.

"He screamed out, 'Allah! Allah! Allah!' and my first reaction was that he was crying out to his God," Spc Jones said. "Everybody heard him cry out and thought it was funny." The report says it became a running joke and prison guards kicked Dilawar just to hear him scream "Allah". "It went on over a 24-hour period, and I would think that it was over 100 strikes," he said.

During an interrogation, the severely injured Dilawar begged a translator to get him a doctor. The translator says he told the interrogators, but one replied: "He's OK. He's just trying to get out of his restraints."

An autopsy found that Dilawar died of heart failure caused by "blunt force injuries to the lower extremities". The coroner, Lieutenant-Colonel Elizabeth Rouse, told a pre-trial hearing that his legs "had basically been pulpified ... I've seen similar injuries in an individual run over by a bus."
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[damntexdem]

21. The sad thing is that ...

the Nazi comparison seems so apt.

[JohnyCanuck]

24. Story makes it's way around the world

Looks like the game plan to pin world wide anti-US sentiment on Newsweek just ain't panning out they way they had hoped. Back to the drawing board Karl.

From the editorial in today's Barbados Nation News:

This apart, there are signs that as powerful a nation as the United States is, it is failing to realise that not respecting the religious feelings of people in other countries, however poor those people might be, will bring a reaction that dispels fear of even weapons of "shock and awe".

With the Arab world still seething over claims of the "desecration" of the Koran at the United States prison in Guantanamo Bay in Cuba, in spite of Newsweek magazine's retraction stating that the original report of the incident might not have been accurate, a further jolt has now come. This time it is from the New York Times, which reported last Friday that a 2 000-page document leaked from a United States army investigation, showed that Afghan prisoners had been abused at a detention centre at Bagram.

One case that attracted particular attention was that of a taxi driver known as Dilawar, who it was said screamed "Allah, Allah, Allah . . . " when he was being beaten and that his torturers " . . . kept showing up to give him a strike (blows) just to hear him scream Allah . . . . It went on over a 24-hour period . . . "

It was also noted by the Times that the United States authorities, while saying that a thorough investigation has been made about the incidents of abuse, no one has yet been convicted while a soldier told the investigators that the detainees were considered terrorists until proven otherwise.

http://www.nationnews.com/editorial/283951470238810.php

[Disturbed]

27. Wasn't the U.S. soldier that interogater harshly punished for..

this? I mean 3 months in prison is a long time, aint it?

[merh]

28. ...

:cry:

[d_b]

30. The pathology of a ...

When you get amused by hearing someone scream in pain (while kicking the shit out of them no less)you have some major @#%$*& issues.

Planting the seeds for the next generation, eh Georgie?

[Tinoire]

33. Absolutely appalling!

These are crimes for which our nation will pay very dearly karmically.

"NOT IN MY NAME!!"

[Pepperbelly]

34. that makes me feel so sad ...

even without going to the link.

Thanks, buzzkill.

[Ms. Clio]

35. . . .

[NMMNG]

37. What was it shrubbie was saying recently...

about them being 'backward and barbaric' or something along those lines?

Freaking hypocrite! :grr:

[Tim4319]

39. Guess they were blowing off more steam?

[KayLaw]

41. Gee

Don't you just love evil people? You know, these guys are lucky this bleeding-heart liberal doesn't get to chose their fate. Please let there be a God so these human monsters can rot in hell for eternity.

I wonder if these creatures consider themselves Christians? If so, do they ask themselves what would Jesus do? Do they think he'd stand around and yuck it up at the sight of an innocent being tortured by sexually perverted demons? This is beyond evil.