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Nordmadr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 08:38 AM
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Please give me some good news.
Everything I see is making me want to get the f*ck out of Dodge while it can still be done.

I am not so sure that this country is going to fix itself, at least not without that "R" word. The problem is, I don't think most people have a clue what is happenng in this country. Too distracted, busy, and brainwashed. As long as the lies are allowed to be perpetuated, as long as people can debate by generating their own "facts" without any repercussions, we will make no progress. I fear America is lost. We have stealthily become Fascist. We are a corporate nation. The government is not fighting for us. It is fighting against us. Our voices are ignored.



Bill of Rights

Declaration of Independence

IN CONGRESS, July 4, 1776.

The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America,

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.
He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.
He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.
He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.
He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.
He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected; whereby the Legislative powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.
He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.
He has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary powers.
He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.
He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.
He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.
He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil power.
He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:
For Quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:
For protecting them, by a mock Trial, from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:
For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:
For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:
For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury:
For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences
For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies:
For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:
For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.
He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.
He has plundered our seas, ravaged our Coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.
He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.
He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.
He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages, whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.

In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.

Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our Brittish brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which, would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends.

We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States; that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.

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kansasblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 08:40 AM
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1. good news? We at DU care and are working hard.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 08:44 AM
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2. Well, I recommended your post.
Edited on Fri May-13-05 08:45 AM by Hissyspit
Best I can do nowadays... :(

Never hurts for everyone to go reread the Declaration of Independence or the U.S. Constitution.
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 09:07 AM
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3. yes, there is place for hope...
... the REALITY that DU exists at all, is one big one-
and the fact that the divide in the US is becoming more and more evident is another-
i remember the Reagan years-.... seemed as if there would never be a 'chance' to reverse the curse, yet against all odds, Clinton with all the slime thrown at him, prevailed- and not only that, beat an incumbent-

Pendulums swing- we are on an EXTREEM 'right-akaWRONG' wing swing, but it won't stay there- it can't-

This is gonna sound lame, and if you're really feeling down reading is the last thing you're gonna want to do- but i had to help my son read "Johnny Tremain" for his schooling- and i found HOPE- and CONNECTION there, that i would never have believed- The revolution has much deeper and different roots than what my public school education and today's 'christian' fundies would have you think-

and lastly- my old tried and true truth- imagine being on the 'other' side of this mess- imagine being one of those Americans who CHOOSE -(it is indeed a choice- to pretend they don't know we are doing very bad things, to ourselves, and the world- Denial is a deadly and harmful disease- You are awake, aware, and outraged- YOU are ALIVE- those who live as if everythings ok are in truth, the 'walking dead'-

it hurts to be truly alive and aware- but you and all those who fight against what is so clearly wrong are living authentic, REAL life- not just 'puttin in time' or 'goin with the flow'- and it's those who stand against the current who make the future better-

pamper yourself- look for one single tiny thing to hold tight to, that is good- live as if today was the last day of your life, and change what corners of your world that you can- tell your friends how much they enrich your lives- it will remind you, and up lift them-

change is something we can count on, sometimes it's for the worse- but sometimes it's for the best- nothing at all stays the same-

i wish you hope, and endurance, and most of all peace-

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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 09:16 AM
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4. The ivory-billed woodpecker is NOT extinct!
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converted_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 09:17 AM
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5. Here is some good news..........
I left the Republican party for you guys. I started to come to the DU to see what the opposition was up too. Now, I have seen the truth and I'm a good guy. I grew up in a conservative household and did not know any better. Now thanks to you guys I woke up, and so has most of my family. (If you knew my family you would really know how BIG this is) My dad doesn't just bob his head with his Republican buddies when he eats breakfast with them. He actually defends what the democrats are doing. The tide is turning. This site changed me, and know it's changing my family and my community. Things are getting better, I can feel it!!!!!!!!
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 09:35 AM
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8. Welcome to DU and post your post as a separate thread if you haven't

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converted_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 09:45 AM
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9. Thank you!!!!!!
I will do that!!!!!!
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Nordmadr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 09:47 AM
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11. Thanks. I am glad to hear your story. Welcome to DU!!! N/T
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 09:22 AM
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6. My cat yacked his hairball this morning!
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paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 09:27 AM
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7. Here's Good News..
-DU exists. carried a story "BUSH QUESTIONED OVER UK WAR MEMO"

-The nation was in an uproar over a dumbass, radical NC minister who kicked out the church's Democratic members.

-Shrub's numbers remain in the toilet.

-John Conyers continues to be tough.

-Election reform is still being talked about.
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Nordmadr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 09:46 AM
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10. Thanks all. I'm feeling a bit overwhelmed by
the constant assault on the American people. It is frustrating as hell.

The hairball thing made me chuckle.

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kansasblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 11:30 AM
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12. I came over from the 'dark side' too.
I was once a Republican. Balanced budgets were my main issue. We can agree to disagree on how to spend our dollars but when we spend our children's dollars then that's just wrong. This admin is spending wildly even after removing the cost of Iraq and the war on Terror the government has still grown at an alarming rate.

Toss in a poorly managed war and no one is called to account and I'm gone. We come to DU because our eyes are openned. More are coming to the good side. There is good news. Keep working!

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