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BigBearJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 07:38 PM
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THIS KEEPS GETTING BETTER - Bolton, Negroponte and Hayden
Edited on Fri May-06-05 07:42 PM by BigBearJohn

The unholy trinity of electronic snooping: Bolton, Negroponte and Hayden




May 5, 2005—As the Senate Foreign Relations Committee prepares to vote on the nomination of Under Secretary of State for Arms Control and International Security John Bolton to be U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, further details are emerging from within the U.S. Intelligence Community on unofficial and back channel intelligence operations directed over the past four years from neo-conservative cells in Vice President Dick Cheney's office, the Pentagon, the State Department, and the National Security Agency (NSA).

The three key participants who have emerged as orchestrating the misuse of NSA and other U.S. intelligence resources to conduct surveillance of those who opposed neoconservative plans to invade Iraq and ratchet up tensions with North Korea, Syria, Cuba, Venezuela, Iran, the Palestinian Authority headed by the late Yasir Arafat, and the former government of Haiti are Bolton; NSA's director and the new Deputy Director for National Intelligence General Michael V. Hayden; and former U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations and Iraq and current National Intelligence Director John Negroponte. Hayden served alongside Condoleezza Rice in the National Security Council under President George H. W. Bush.

In the lead up to the Iraq War, Negroponte, Bolton, and Hayden, as well as other leading neoconservatives in the Pentagon and White House, directed an e-mail and telephone surveillance campaign against UN Security Council delegates to determine the voting intentions of wavering countries on the council's resolution authorizing military action against Iraq. The targeted delegations were Angola, Cameroon, Chile, China, France, Mexico, Guinea, Pakistan, and Russia.

A January 31, 2003, Quick Response Capability memo sent by Frank Koza, the chief of the Regional Targets group within NSA's National Security Operations Center (NSOC), to NSA's counterparts in the Echelon communications intelligence monitoring tasking system—Britain, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand—authorized a "surge" telephone and e-mail intercept operation on the offices and homes of government officials of UN Security Council members and "non-UN Security Council Member UN-related and domestic comms." The latter included UN officials such as Secretary General Kofi Annan, Chief UN weapons inspector Hans Blix, International Atomic Energy Agency Director Mohammed El Baradei, and Pope John Paul II (who was lobbying African and Latin American Security Council members against the U.S. Security Council war resolution). EMPHASIS ADDED BY ME

READ THE WHOLE ARTICLE (IT'S WORTH IT)
http://www.onlinejournal.com/Special_Reports/050505Madsen/050505madsen.html
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 07:43 PM
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1. !
Edited on Fri May-06-05 07:54 PM by omega minimo
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 07:44 PM
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2. The VP's Intel Groups
are running and ruining the country.
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 07:44 PM
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3. geeze. these guys are icky and creepy in addition to creating
their own spy agency outside of the CIA. And they don't even do it very well.

Haven't we had enough of these assholes yet?
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 07:47 PM
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4. Hey, Paulo! Bush Bugged the POPE!
Some people will do anything for a war.

Thanks for the heads-up on a great article, BigBearJohn!

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BigBearJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 07:51 PM
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8. Yeah, it sent CHILLs up my spine, to be sure.
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 07:53 PM
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10. I didn't know that.
Did I? Do you have a link handy? Thanks, thou font of knowledge.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 08:06 PM
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21. LOL. Wayne Fontes maybe. US Spying started in 2000.
That darn Tenet. What I meant to say "US Spying started in 2000 that we know about."

ECHELON SPYING ON JOHN PAUL II
From Paul Kneisel <[email protected]>
Date Wed, 15 Mar 2000 18:00:00 -0500

------------------------------------------------------------------------

<: hacktivism :>

Zenit News Service, "ECHELON SPYING ON JOHN PAUL II? Office of Public Prosecutor in Rome Studying Case," 29 Feb 00

ROME -- At present the Office of the Public Prosecutor in Rome is studying the possibility of opening an official investigation on the revelations in the London "Sunday Times," alleging that the Echelon network spied on Papal and Vatican activities.

The investigators have in their possession the article published in England and others that appeared in the Italian press, to verify if there is sufficient evidence to warrant an investigation. Last Sunday, the English newspaper quoted secret agents saying that Echelon intercepted messages sent by the Pope. The messages were then given to officials of the British government's secret service. Italian attorney Pietro Saviotti is responsible for the investigation.

Echelon was established in 1947 by the United States, Canada, Great Britain, Australia, and New Zealand, to create a sophisticated network of interception of all kinds of c ommunications. The little that is publicly known about Echelon appears in the book "Secret Power," by New Zealander Nicky Hager. Scottish reporter Duncan Campbell has also made
disclosures that appear in a report published last month in Brussels.

Echelon is controlled by the U.S. National Security Agency. It works with a network of 120 satellites and stations located in different countries. According to press sources, it is able to intercept 95% of world communications trasmitted on Internet, fax, telephone, etc.

The English and Italian articles state that Echelon extended its
espionage systems to communications of Mother Teresa of Calcutta and Princess Diana. Echelon is especially interested in the activities of humanitarian organizations, as they have privileged information on the countries where they operate.

CONTINUED...

http://archives.openflows.org/hacktivism/hacktivism00187.html


AND THERE ARE COUNTER-MEASURES...


Vatican battles eavesdroppers

Philip Willan, IDG News Service
18/04/2005 08:16:42

The security and privacy of papal elections has been of concern since cardinals were first locked up in conclave ("cum clave" is Latin for "with a key") in the 13th century, but the technical challenge of ensuring the confidentiality of their deliberations increased markedly during the 26 years of Pope John Paul II's reign.

The pace of technological progress was underscored this week when the association of Italian pasta makers announced that their countrymen now spend as much money on SMS (Short Message Service) as they do on the national staple. The Vatican Press Office signaled the first news of John Paul's death to international news agencies by SMS, and the civil protection department sent out 120 million SMS messages to Italian citizens, many warning them to stay away from St. Peter's Square on the day of the Pope's funeral.

It comes as little surprise then that the Vatican has had to update its electronic countermeasures to try and foil the efforts of international secret services to penetrate the veil of secrecy surrounding the process that will lead to the election of John Paul's successor when 115 cardinals first assemble in conclave on Monday.

Within hours of the Pope's death, Vatican security officials and technical experts provided by the Italian secret services began sweeping the Santa Marta residence where the cardinal electors will be housed, and the Sistine Chapel, where they will meet and vote, for electronic bugs, the Italian weekly Panorama reported. They have been charged with creating an electronic barrier to keep out directional microphones and other laser-operated espionage devices, the magazine said.

John Paul laid down strict guidelines on the maintenance of secrecy during the conclave, with the cardinals and those who assist them while they are closeted in the Vatican all sworn to secrecy. His instructions "On the election of the Roman Pontiff" are explicit: "relying on the expertise of two trustworthy technicians," senior Vatican officials must "make every effort to preserve that secrecy by ensuring that no audio-visual equipment for recording or transmitting has been installed by anyone in the areas mentioned, and particularly in the Sistine Chapel itself."

CONTINUED...

http://www.computerworld.com.au/index.php/id;1175782433;fp;2;fpid;1

GOOGLE's my friend.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 08:16 PM
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Um,...WOW,...
,...you are one helluva "googler".

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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 08:05 PM
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20. Really spooky 'cause they must have someone on the inside!!!
Yes?

I wonder if the Vatican has been tickled on this yet!
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 08:22 PM
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27. Probably both.
The Opus Dei folk overlap with the Fascist movements in Europe and the USA. During Franco's tyranny in Spain, Opus Dei had members in his cabinet. Real fine bag of turds they can be.

But the way they got their info on conversations in the Vatican or the U.N. is to use satellites, phone systems and ground based stuff to listen in on telephone conversations, computer uploads and downloads and even on person-to-person contact. It's pretty global, as it's used to supplant the spy in the street, the electronic system is called ECHELON. From what's known, the system can pretty much intercept any electronic or radio transmission on planet Earth.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 08:29 PM
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30. That's a LOT of data/info,...
,...and there's no way it's effective without "targets".

Even with "targets",...well,...gosh,...

What a bunch of tyrannical control freaks.
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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 07:49 PM
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5. After reading this I'm sure Bolton would make a GREAT Diplomat!
:sarcasm:
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BigBearJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 07:52 PM
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9. If Bolton gets in after all this, I'm leaving the country.
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Pithy Cherub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 07:49 PM
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6. This keeps getting worse and the stench is covering
the republican party en masse. :puke: Will anybody with a conscience do the right thing and resign or tell all? :shrug:
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 07:51 PM
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7. Chertoff FloatsTotal Information Awareness, homeland-style.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 08:01 PM
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17. We have full-fledged tyrants in charge. Absolutely insane!!!
:banghead:
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 08:25 PM
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29. worse than any fiction
I know of. :scared:
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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 07:55 PM
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11. Nominated & Kicked
:kick:
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BigBearJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 07:57 PM
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12. thanks!
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 08:00 PM
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15. Nominated it, too
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BigBearJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 08:01 PM
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16. You rock!
:yourock:
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bush_is_wacko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 07:58 PM
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13. sheeeesh...words escape me...n/t
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 07:59 PM
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14. *LOL* I just learned about "phreakin". This is total "phreakin".
I heard about the UN being bugged.

This is seriously intense info.

I'm digesting,...will take some time, though.
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BigBearJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 08:01 PM
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18. Yep. My ears are still poppin.
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 08:02 PM
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19. What upsets me
Edited on Fri May-06-05 08:03 PM by ewagner
is that there is very little documentation for what Madsen is saying and, because of some stories in the near past, his credibility isn't sterling....

as a result, none of this will make much difference in the long run.

Sorry to step on your happy cake but I don't think this article will do much, if anything.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 08:12 PM
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22. There's documentation,...
,...do you know the identity of that documentation? Do you know whether there are other sources verifying this info?

Whatever you know,...please tell me.
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BigBearJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 08:13 PM
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23. I just found the article on a search of Google.
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 08:17 PM
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25. I think you may
have misunderstood....

I don't know of any documentation except for the British story which died some time ago...

I don't know of anything else, that's why I'm skeptical that the story will grow any legs at all.....
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 08:24 PM
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28. Well, apparently he has on hand a memo,...


A January 31, 2003, Quick Response Capability memo sent by Frank Koza, the chief of the Regional Targets group within NSA's National Security Operations Center (NSOC), to NSA's counterparts in the Echelon communications intelligence monitoring tasking system—Britain, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand—authorized a "surge" telephone and e-mail intercept operation on the offices and homes of government officials of UN Security Council members and "non-UN Security Council Member UN-related and domestic comms." The latter included UN officials such as Secretary General Kofi Annan, Chief UN weapons inspector Hans Blix, International Atomic Energy Agency Director Mohammed El Baradei, and Pope John Paul II (who was lobbying African and Latin American Security Council members against the U.S. Security Council war resolution).

Negroponte and Bolton received intercept data from Hayden's staff at NSA. Secret Security Council negotiations to reach a compromise with Iraq and seek more time for UN weapons inspectors were scuttled when Negroponte and Bolton were made privy to private telephone conversations of UN delegates, including the Mexican and Chilean ambassadors.


How he verifies the intercept data,...:shrug:
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Frederik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-05 12:40 AM
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35. I dunno, but
Madsen is ex-NSA himself. So it is reasonable to believe that he has some contacts on the inside.
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 08:16 PM
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24. These activities weren't even that far under the radar. The proof
is lying around, going back to reports about this in the days when the UN Security Council was considering the U.S. resolutions on Iraq.

Big story, and it won't be easy to cover up.


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Frederik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-05 12:43 AM
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36. Yeah, I remember
they found listening devices in the UN. The Italians were pissed that they weren't listened on, like they weren't as important as the French and Germans, lol. So this wasn't really a surprise.
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 08:21 PM
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26. How do we get this moving somewhere?
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 10:46 PM
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31. I think the Foreign Relations Committee is on this
Sit back, grab the popcorn and watch them work! Next hearing was set for May 12th, but might be delayed.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 11:03 PM
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32. Congresswoman Waters Demands Senate Investigate Bolton Arms Shipments
Edited on Fri May-06-05 11:04 PM by seemslikeadream
Congresswoman Waters Demands That The Senate Investigate (Bolton) Arms Shipment To Haiti


04/27/05 "ICH" - - Washington, D.C. -- Today, Rep. Maxine Waters (CA-35) released a statement denouncing last year's shipment of thousands of weapons to Haiti by the U.S. Government, in violation of a 13-year-old arms embargo on Haiti, and demanding that the United States investigate why John Bolton allowed these weapons sales to occur while serving as Under Secretary of State for Arms Control and International Security Affairs. Her statement follows recent press reports that a State Department official admitted that the United States transported 2,657 weapons to Haiti last August to train and equip the Haitian National Police. These weapons included several M-14 rifles and sub-machine guns, as well as over 2000 revolvers and hundreds of pistols. The Congresswoman's statement follows:

I am deeply disturbed to learn that, over the weekend, the U.S. State Department admitted that the United States shipped thousands of lethal weapons to Haiti last year, in violation of our government's 13-year-old embargo on arms shipments to Haiti and despite the dreadful human rights record of Haiti's unelected interim government.

I call upon the United States Senate to investigate these arms shipments to Haiti, which occurred while John Bolton was serving as Under Secretary of State for Arms Control and International Security Affairs. It is critical that Senators determine why John Bolton allowed the arms embargo on Haiti to be violated before they vote on his nomination to the position of United States Ambassador to the United Nations.

The arms embargo on Haiti was enforced throughout the administration of President Jean-Bertrand Aristide, the democratically-elected President of Haiti. Because of the arms embargo, the democratically-elected government of Haiti could not purchase weapons from the United States to train and equip the Haitian police to carry out their law enforcement responsibilities.


http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article8688.htm
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 11:44 PM
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33. Where's the flippin' media???
Damn I hate this shit.

Imagine if Clinton had been monitoring Ken Starr's conversations??
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-05 12:35 AM
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34. For whatever it's worth
If you do a Google search on "Frank Koza" you get over 600 hits, many of which refer to the NSA and spying on UN delegates. This may be just the "echo chamber" effect of the internet but maybe we can try to track this down to original sources and see if it seems credible. Wayne Madsen has never seemed very credible to me in the past, but who knows?
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BigBearJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-05 01:18 AM
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37. The research abilities of DUers sometimes staggers the imagination.
I'm so proud to be a part of this group!
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-05 09:51 AM
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38. Kick for How Many Negatives Have There Been
since Senator whassisname (Repuke, Vietnam) said he was holding back making a decision to see if ONE MORE THING about BOLTON would transpire?
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suegeo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-05 12:31 PM
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39. Someone should take some naked pictures of Heyden
It would be kind of funny if those people that Heyden is spying on would take some naked pictures of Heyden and email them to each other. Then the NSA would intercept naked pictures of their boss, and Heyden would see them too.


Fucking jackass Hitler wanna bes.
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BigBearJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-05 04:15 PM
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40. hahahahahahahahahahaha
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