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dolo amber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 08:59 PM
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Pray and Be Rich
In Pray and Be Rich, Dr. Richard Gaylord Briley reveals a startling Biblical truth that has great implications for your life


I shit you not...I found this on NewsMax today (yeah, I know, I know...but it's my boss's homepage and it's funny to see just *how* insane these people are). All you gotta do is send this dude $49.95, and he will send you his *program* including such gems as:


"People wrongly link success with excess and convince themselves success is bad.

So, many good people shy from success.

Yet at one time, Americans freely pursued personal success (requesting Gods help first), and triggered the prosperity that made our nation what it is.

In Pray and Be Rich youll learn that Gods purpose in fostering our success is to create rapid abundance TODAY to help us survive possible hard times TOMORROW.

The Pray and Be Rich program requires a tiny investment of your money and time, but may change your life forever and help you become the success God intended!"




I can't make this stuff up... :rofl:


http://www.newsmaxstore.com/nms/showdetl.cfm?st=0&st2=0...


(Note that it's in the clearance bin. I guess even fundies aren't this stupid. :7)
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 09:04 PM
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1. You think that's bad
you should have seen the Magic Eye picture of Jesus where his eyes open and that's supposed to be a miracle for which you should make a donation to their "ministry" so that they could send out more of these paper prayer rug things.

If you're happen to believe in a higher power, somehow I picture people like this having to face an Almighty who's mighty peeved 'round about now.
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yella_dawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 09:10 PM
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2. Yep... Once upon a time, all was idyllic here in the Great USofA.
Buy my book to go back in time to those days of beauty and wonder.


The horror is that people will send him money.



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charlyvi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 09:12 PM
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3. This is sick.
Edited on Thu May-05-05 09:13 PM by charlyvi
To pray for money is sick. Isn't there something in the Bible about it being easier for a camel to go through a needle's eye than for a rich man to reach God? (from memory)

Edit: unless you're praying for money in the service of a greater good, like havng surgery, avoiding eviction, etc.
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salib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 09:17 PM
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4. Yeah, well, instead constant ads on AAR tell us that
We just do not think we are worthy of wealth, success, etc. If we just listen to Wendi Friesen's "hypno-therapy" tapes, then we will all see the light and realize it is not so bad to pursue riches. So, we are not supposed to pray for riches, just numb our minds into wanting them.
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onager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 09:25 PM
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5. No points for originality...
Edited on Thu May-05-05 09:29 PM by onager
This "pray yourself rich" hokum is an ANCIENT Xian con job. (I'll try to be nice and not mention my opinion that Xianity itself is nothing but a 2000 year old con job...whoops...)

It was already older than Methusaleh when it was being used to fleece rich widows by Los Angeles' first holy-roller evangelist...the aptly-named Rev. William Money. That was way back in 1857.

Two masters of this pitch in the 1950's were those charming fellows who were photo-negatives of each other. Where I grew up in the rural South, I had relatives who would laugh and hoot about our desperately poor black neighbors sending money to Rev. Ike...as they mailed off their cash to Garner Ted Armstrong or Oral Roberts. ("I'll send you a MIRACLE PRAYER CLOTH g'aranteed to bring you ABUNDANT BLESSINGS...")

Jan and Paul Crouch in Orange County are still raking in the bucks with this idea in their TBN scam. They use the "Jesus was a CEO" approach.

And you can see this pitch every Sunday on TV, from another preacher with a most fitting name--Creflo A. Dollar.
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 09:31 PM
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6. Robert Tilton was big on the 'prayer cloth' thing too back in the 80s
somehow I got on his mailing list (probably from a drunken raving call one bored evening...heh heh)If you never saw this guy, you missed a real piece of work.
;-)
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BlackVelvetElvis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 09:37 PM
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8. Don't forget Rev. Ike!
There's a famous black and white photo of him...well, it's his hand cradling a bible while he's wearing a Rolex with diamonds (the focal point of the photo).
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 09:33 PM
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7. "Prosperity Gospel" or "Name it and Claim IT!", "Word-Faith"...
The same scam people like Oral Roberts, Casey Treet, Rod Parsley, Dwight Thompson, Bob Tilton, Marilynn Hickey, Kenneth Copeland, Robert Schuyler, etc., etc., etc. have been preaching for years.

shit, even Jim and Tammy-Faye Bakker ran the scam, and we know how long ago they fell...

Also goes by the title "Blab and Grab"

Oh-ko-do-bo-so-to, Hah! yah-kee! Koda Basanda Andanda de Bosoto!
Bunda Saboyah!
Oodles ah Boodle!
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Sugarbleus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 09:40 PM
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9. This is the revamped version of an old scheme called
the NAME IT AND CLAIM IT doctrine. From old time tent revivals where they sold bits of hankies and "holy" oil in vials, to books and tapes and placing your hands on the TV screen today...all to make you rich or healthy or whatever.. attached to these schemes, there's always some money to be sent in, somewhere along the line...

But hey, the scheme does work for the hucksters..their riches mount up don't they?!

I grew up in this "religious" culture. I can tell you storiessss. It's Sideshow 101. :popcorn:

Can you say SCAM?
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