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raysr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-05 01:56 AM
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"The officer's comment was a harbinger of the gratuitous violence that, according to Mr. Delgado, is routinely inflicted by American soldiers on ordinary Iraqis. He said: "Guys in my unit, particularly the younger guys, would drive by in their Humvee and shatter bottles over the heads of Iraqi civilians passing by. They'd keep a bunch of empty Coke bottles in the Humvee to break over people's heads."
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/05/02/opinion/02herbert.html?hp
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oblivious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-05 02:47 AM
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1. When I read this I thought about other soldiers that hand out candy.
Trying to build bridges. I thought I read that some of those guys handing out candy were blown up last week while doing that. They must hate these bastards. Pretty hard to atone for a drop kick to the chest with some candy.

Mr. Delgado said he had witnessed incidents in which an Army sergeant lashed a group of children with a steel Humvee antenna, and a Marine corporal planted a vicious kick in the chest of a kid about 6 years old. There were many occasions, he said, when soldiers or marines would yell and curse and point their guns at Iraqis who had done nothing wrong.
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blogbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-05 05:07 AM
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5. I wonder if these are the same guys we warn our kids from taking
candy (or anything else) from here? Maybie it has to do with their uniform fetish?
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chalky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-05 02:55 AM
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2. I'm sick. I'm literally sick after reading this.

God forgive us all.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-05 03:03 AM
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3. This is nothing new. This was well documented in Vietnam.
When it's kill or be killed, feelings get intense very quickly. That fear turns to hate easily. Remember the Winter Soldier Investigation held by VVAW with folks like John Kerry?

This is why war should be the absolute last resort after all peaceful remedies have been exhausted. Even then, there should still be an argument over to go to war. It is something that we owe not only our fellow Americans but also people of other countries.
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chalky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-05 03:10 AM
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4. Came back to nominate.
Edited on Wed May-04-05 03:15 AM by chalky
I had to click out of this earlier to give myself some time to come to terms with what I'd read.



:cry:

It may not be new, but I can't dismiss it.

We hear about Abu Graib; we hear about Guantanamo.
We don't hear about the 6 year old child that gets a casually vicious kick to the chest because he had the misfortune of being born Iraqi.
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-05 08:04 AM
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6. Well, there is a silver lining
He was successful in being granted conscientious objector status, and was honorably discharged. So it IS possible.

Although if we are going to have troops there (which we are, indefinitely) it would be better to have more like him, with morals and an appreciation for the human family.

Well, this is why we have to keep fighting this illegal occupation - writing and calling our 'leaders', marching and protesting, spreading the word, motivating our friends and family to get active.

Peace.
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riverwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-05 08:45 AM
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7. We knew these things would happen
yet this country still wanted war. We knew the inhumane horrors of a military occupation, yet we still invaded Iraq. The country just didn't care. The day the invasion started, I realized I no longer knew this country.
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