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brettdale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 05:49 PM
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Clinton being Blamed for Energy , he has to do a Speech
This is crazy, Bush and the media are blaming Clinton for the energy. This could be stopped if Clinbton just did one major speech.

He has to call a press conference himself, and basically fight back at all these pathetic factually statments that are being made by the Bush adminstration and the media, that its Clintons fault for energy and all other problems in the USA.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 05:53 PM
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1. Oil was $12/ a fucking bbl in 1998
Iraq was exporting 2 million bbls a day before Smirky blew it all up.

These geezers can suck an exhaust pipe.

2005
186. January 1 - attack on a pipeline from Kirkuk to Bayji.
187. January 1 - attack on a pipeline linking the southern cities of Karbala and Hillah, 46 miles south of Baghdad near the Musabayb power station.
188. January 7 - attack on gas pipeline 9 miles north of Tikrit.
189. January 8 - attack on an oil pipeline running from northern fields to Bayji in the Safra area, 43 miles southwest of Kirkuk. Two guard posts for an oil protection force were also blown up around the area and one guard was wounded.
190. January 8 - attack on a gas pipeline in the Fatha area near Bayji.
191. January 11 - 2:00am rocket attack on a gas pipeline that runs to Bayji near the Fatha production station.
192. January 11 - 6:30am attack on an oil pipeline that runs to Bayji in the Zegheitoun area, 35 miles southwest of Kirkuk. The pipeline had just been brought online on January 9th.
193. January 13 - 10:30pm attack on oil pipeline near Fatha.
194. January 14 - improvised explosive device detonated after midnight damaging an oil pipeline near Bayji and sparking a large fire.
195. January 14 - attack on a pipeline linking Kirkuk and the Daura refinery, near Samarra.
196. January 14 - rocket attack on pipeline complex near Fatha sparked large blaze.
197. January 17 - a bomb blew off a section of a pipeline in Fatha.
198. January 21 - 07:00am attack on pipeline in the al-Tharthar region 12 miles south of Samarra interrupted the flow of oil to the Bayji refinery.
199. February 2 - attack on oil pipeline connecting Bayji refinery to Daura refinery. The attack took place near Samarra.
200. Fabruary 5 - attack on a cluster of eight pipelines west of Samarra connecting the Bayji and Daura refineries.
201. February 6 - attack on pipeline carrying crude oil from Kirkuk to Bayji.
202. February 9 - attack on a gas pipeline before dawn in Fatha, about 15 miles north of Bayji.
203. February 9 - rocket attack on a pipeline linking Kirkuk to Bayji.
204. February 13 - 10:00pm attack on oil pipeline at the al-Dibbis oil field 31 miles north of Kirkuk.
205. February 14 - another attack on oil pipeline at al-Dibbis.
206. February 16 - attack on pipeline carrying crude from Kirkuk to Bayji near Fatha.
207. February 16 - attack on pipeline carrying crude from Kirkuk to Daura refinery.
208. February 16 - another attack on pipeline near Fatha.
209. February 16 - attack on pipeline in the Bajwan area, northwest of Kirkuk.
210. February 16 - gunmen killed Colonel Ibrahim Ahmed in charge of pipeline security. The killing took place at Ajeel west of Kirkuk.
211. February 25 - late night attack on a pipeline connecting the Dibbis oil fields with Kirkuk.
212. March 2 - 10pm attack on gas pipeline to Bayji near Al-Safra 30 miles west of Kirkuk caused the shutdown of two of the Bayji power station's four turbines.
213. March 3 - attack on a gas pipeline that links Kirkuk to Dibbis.
214. March 7 - attack on pipeline near Samarra, 60 miles northwest of Baghdad.
215. March 8 - 1pm attack on oil pipeline feeding Al-Daura refinery near Jorf al-Sakhr, 35 miles south of Baghdad.
216. March 9 - attack on oil pipeline feeding the Daura refinery in Jorf al-Sakhr, 46 miles south of Baghdad.
217. March 12 - attack on oil pipeline connecting Bayji and Daura in Al-Tharthar, near Samarra.
218. March 12 - Rocket-propelled grenades were launched at a pipeline running from Kirkuk to Daura.
219. March 15 - attack on oil pipeline in Fatha which carries crude from Kirkuk to Bayji.
220. March 25 - attack on oil pipeline which connects Iraq northern oilfields with the Daura refinery.
221. March 27 - 9:00am attack on oil pipeline which carries crude from Kirkuk to Bayji. Repairs on the line had just been completed the day before.
222. April 4 - attack on pipeline running through the Riyad area near Bayji.
223. April 13 - bomb on oil pipeline near Kirkuk killed an Iraqi oil security chief and eight of his men, who were in the process of defusing another explosive device, and sparked a fire on the pipeline.
224. April 17 - attack near Fatha on oil pipeline from Kirkuk to the Bayji refinery.

JUST THIS YEAR

http://www.iags.org/iraqpipelinewatch.htm
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LdyGuique Donating Member (610 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 06:18 PM
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4. Some Clinton info
Blaming Bush for Iraqi pipeline disruptions isn't quite the answer as we weren't supposed to be receiving any oil from Iraq prior to the invasion. Even with the Oil for Food program, it was a negligible part of our total import.

Carter attempted to have an energy policy that included a wide range of energy-savings measures. Reagan repealed most. Bush, Sr pretty much clung to an energy tax, and Clinton accomplished "some" good, but was mostly lost to a Republican Congress.

This is the White House page on Clinton's Energy Policies

CONGRESS HAS FAILED TO ACT TO IMPROVE AMERICA’S ENERGY SECURITY: The Republican leadership has failed to act on key elements of the President’s long-term energy policy, including: tax incentives to consumers for the purchase of energy-efficient cars, homes and appliances; comprehensive electricity restructuring; and reauthorization of the Strategic Petroleum Reserve. Over the past seven years, Congress has approved only 12 percent of the increased funding proposed by the President for energy efficiency and renewable energy.

Now, the Republican leadership wants to open the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge to oil drilling – despoiling one of America’s last wild places for a short-term supply of oil. Furthermore, they continue to cut programs critical to meeting our long-term energy needs. For instance:

  • The House appropriation of $650 million for Energy Conservation is $201 million less than the President’s request, and $95 million below the current year’s appropriations. These cuts include:

  • A $143 million cut -- complete elimination – of applied R&D at the Department of Energy (DOE) for the PNGV program, canceling over 400 R&D projects in 33 States by 15 Federal labs, 22 universities, and others;

    • A $14 million cut in the low-income home Weatherization Assistance Program, which will mean about 7,000 fewer low-income families will have their energy bills reduced; and,

    • A $2 million cut from industrial cogeneration, which funds R&D on more efficient turbines that increase energy efficiency and reliability of the electrical grid.


  • The House appropriation of $343 million for Solar and Renewable Energy is $67 million less than the President’s budget request. These cuts include:

    • Cuts in biomass fuels and biopower R&D, virtually eliminating our planned increase to develop alternative transportation fuels and to make better use of biomass and waste materials for generating electricity

    • Reductions in solar electricity R&D, designed to make solar energy cost-competitive;

    • Cuts in R&D for wind-power, which, if adequately funded, will be competitive within a few years.


  • I recommend the full Clinton Energy page for a read.

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    ignatius 2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 06:44 PM
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    8. I totally remember Carter in his fireside chats wearing a sweater(just
    like the one my dad wears) telling us that we needed to conserve energy. The rabid repigs laughed their asses off. Repulsive,ignorant rat fucking bastards..the party of greed and narcism that pretends to be so morally pure..sickening!

    But,per usual,they assume no responsibility for anything.ever. Blame it on Clinton..that is their mantra. I can picture them with black hoods and candles chanting blame it on Clinton,blame it on Clinton while sacrificing our children on the alter of oil.
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    Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 06:47 PM
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    9. What thaf fails completely to understand is
    With 2 million more bbls on the world market, there is more supply and it makes the price go lower.

    They didn't HAVE to sell it to the U.S. to make the world market price go down.

    and yes, Carter was on the right track.

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    pnorman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 06:23 PM
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    5. "$12/ a fucking bbl in 1998"
    You're right about that! Here's what I just Googled: http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/cabs/chron.html

    pnorman (elderly geezer)
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    MetaTrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 06:00 PM
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    2. I was dizzy after seeing a headline on the elevator the other day
    "Bush unveils energy vision"

    And I wondered, how many times did the media refer to Clinton as a "visionary"?
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    SOS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 06:15 PM
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    3. Bush is blaming the wrong President...
    The cause of our energy problems today is Ronald Reagan.
    From an interview with RFK Jr.:

    "President Carter passed CAFE standards in response to the second oil crisis in 1979. Those standards were directed towards getting our country up from 20 to 40 miles per gallon by 1990. Within six years, we had raised average fuel economy by seven-and-a-half miles per gallon. That efficiency caused an oil glut in this country, collapsing the price of gasoline to the lowest levels in decades. Oil companies went to the Reagan administration and persuaded them to roll back CAFE standards. The Gingrich Congress subsequently made it illegal for the government to pass them. If Reagan hadn't done that we would not have imported one drop of Gulf oil into this country after 1986."

    If Reagan had not dumped the CAFE standards the US would have been energy independent by 1991. Clinton needs to remind people of these facts.
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    Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 06:30 PM
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    6. the CAFE standards were rejected by Bush &co again in 2001..
    along with some Democrats who were more loyal to lobbiests than the betterment of our world-

    We were hoping for 36 mpg - But the 'fat cat' SUV drivers insisted that it was thier 'right' to buy any vehicle they wanted-
    i confess to being a bigot when it comes to SUV's driven by single people who live in the city- there is a place and a need for everything, but not at the expense of lives-

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    pnorman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 06:39 PM
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    7. A little more on CAFE:
    http://www.jimnewsom.com/PFW-EnergyMissedOpportunity.html
    And here's what appears to be the source of that RFK interview: http://www.frugalmarketing.com/dtb/kennedy.shtml

    Please excuse my obsession with 'sources', but I need them whenever I go up against 'conventional wisdom'.

    pnorman
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    SOS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-05 09:22 AM
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    10. For future refeerence
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    seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-05 09:31 AM
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    11. repugs took over house and senate when? n/t
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    liveoaktx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-05 09:32 AM
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    12. From Wired-Clinton Criticizes Bush Energy Bill
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