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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 05:09 PM
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Am I the only person to have a "physical reaction" to Bush?
Seriously. I hear "President Bush" and my ears and cheeks burn. When I see him via TV, my abdomen gets tight and my heart rate goes up. When I listen to him, my forehead tightens, my teeth grind and my temples hurt.

I have NEVER had such physical reactions to any human being in my entire life!!! To me, such an experience is totally new and strange.

Am I the only person who is having - has had this experience with any particular person?

:shrug:
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 05:10 PM
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1. I have the same thing.
When he comes on the radio in a news report or something, I switch it off as fast as I can. He is not welcome in my home (or my car).
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haele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 09:35 PM
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107. I can't listen to him in the car...
If I hear his voice, I'm filled with such revulsion that if another vehicle with any sort of "W" or Neoclannish stickers on it drives by when I'm suffering from fits of Shrub-induced rage and nausea, they run the risk of being cursed out and flipped off at the very least. It's like a terrible fog in front of my eyes.

I've never felt such revulsion for a person before, even when I was on Shore Patrol and helped bring in a child molester. Perhaps because the damage he uncaringly causes to innocents is so much worse over a wider scale.

Haele
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 09:43 PM
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110. Same here
It's the fastest I move when he or his voice appear.

As for pictures in newspapers, I keep a Sharpie handy and simply black him out.

Yes, it's a visceral and intense reaction. I can see a picture of Hitler and have the same reaction.
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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 05:11 PM
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2. Not at ALL
Complete revulsion here. The sound of his voice literally makes me nauseous.
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meti57b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 05:11 PM
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3. Not really, but I do have a special "salute" that I give him.
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 05:12 PM
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4. Nope, you're not alone.
Happens to me anytime I see or hear him or anything remotely related to him.
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tinrobot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 05:12 PM
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5. I can't watch him or hear him speak
The sight or sound of that buffoon just makes me sick. It's one of the big reasons I stopped watching news.

I can read about him, and it seems to be OK when Jon Stewart is making fun of him, but that's it.
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 06:31 PM
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43. Same here.. the man is "Too Stupid to be President"
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dave123williams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 06:48 PM
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49. That doesn't mean he's not smarter than the idiots who voted for him.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 07:21 PM
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59. It means he's good at a "used car salesman pitch" to the gullible,...
,...and I'll be damned if I'll beat up on the gullible or innocent or trusting. I'll hold the salesman, willing to con the gullible, fully responsible for taking advantage of those who still want to trust people.

How's 'bout you. Who do you believe DESERVES punishment: the con or those victimized by "the con"?

I'm curious.
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dave123williams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 07:30 PM
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61. Cavaet Emptor, my friend.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 07:53 PM
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82. Yes. BUT,...NO AMERICAN expected an "as is" condition by those,...
,...who were supposed to be held to THEIR OATH TO REPRESENT the rest of us (rather than themselves), and to be HELD TO A HIGHER ETHICAL STANDARD than that imposed upon the rest of us.
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 08:12 PM
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88. He's certainly not aiding Americans w/our "PURSUIT TO HAPPINESS"
:puke:
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Donailin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 10:14 PM
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120. The guillible aint so gullible
when their circus and bread act loses the bread. Folks who voted for him basing their opinion on two months of fox news are just now saying "hey wait a minute, whats with the price of gas and privatization?" Now their paying attention, and I will bet money that they don't think they are part of a focus group when they can't afford to pay their bills.
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buff2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 09:01 PM
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101. Same here...
I hate the sound of his voice and detest his smirky ugly face. Everything about him makes my skin crawl. I refuse to watch or listen to him. I've tried and all it does is put ugly thoughts in my mind. I don't need it. May he rot in hell.
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 05:13 PM
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6. No, you are not the only one.
My stomach turns, my eczema flares up and I get a headache. I also get a strange urge to gouge my eyes out or to stick needles in them.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 05:14 PM
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7. You are not alone every time I hear him wine I get nauseous
HE HE HE
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libertypirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 05:14 PM
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8. I will read the transcript....
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 07:34 PM
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63. That's exactly how I handle it
I don't like hearing his voice and his purposeful uneducated tone. I didn't like it in the Southern Baptist preachers of my youth and I don't like it in this charlatan either.
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 05:15 PM
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9. Me too, but shouting profanities at the top of my lungs seems to
take the edge off.
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fighttotheend Donating Member (290 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 05:18 PM
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14. I know too bad he cant hear us all talking to our t.v's
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 05:20 PM
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18. I broke myself from throwing *soft* house slippers when the BP raised.
Edited on Thu Apr-28-05 05:22 PM by Just Me
Even *soft* house slippers, thrown hard enough, breaks stuff (two lamps - in the trash). x( I've decided to TURN-HIM-OFF,...and read up here on DU, instead.

On edit: Seriously, though,...I have NEVER had this kind of reaction to ANY human being in my lifetime.
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Digit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 10:08 PM
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117. Yeah, me too, but now my parrot repeats over and over...
FOK, FOK, FOK, FOK, FOK, FOK
She says this and looks at me to see if I react.
The last time she did this, I was on the phone with someone whom would not understand and I kept trying to talk over the darned bird until she was done amusing herself.
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Donailin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 10:16 PM
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121. All across the country tonight folks were
cursing at the TV. I will wager that at least five times, thousands fo people said in unison, "God! you're a fucking moron!"
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 05:16 PM
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10. You're just perceptive
Edited on Thu Apr-28-05 05:42 PM by Stephanie


It's a visceral reaction, and it's a correct one.

This is an interesting article >


=======================

http://www.gladwell.com/2002/2002_08_05_a_face.htm

August 5, 2002
ANNALS OF PSYCHOLOGY
The Naked Face
Can you read people's thoughts just by looking at them?

<snip> Early in his career, Paul Ekman filmed forty psychiatric patients, including a woman named Mary, a forty-two-year-old housewife. She had attempted suicide three times, and survived the last attemptan overdose of pillsonly because someone found her in time and rushed her to the hospital. Her children had left home and her husband was inattentive, and she was depressed. When she first went to the hospital, she simply sat and cried, but she seemed to respond well to therapy. After three weeks, she told her doctor that she was feeling much better and wanted a weekend pass to see her family. The doctor agreed, but just before Mary was to leave the hospital she confessed that the real reason she wanted to go on weekend leave was so that she could make another suicide attempt. Several years later, a group of young psychiatrists asked Ekman how they could tell when suicidal patients were lying. He didn't know, but, remembering Mary, he decided to try to find out. If the face really was a reliable guide to emotion, shouldn't he be able to look back on the film and tell that she was lying? Ekman and Friesen began to analyze the film for clues. They played it over and over for dozens of hours, examining in slow motion every gesture and expression. Finally, they saw it. As Mary's doctor asked her about her plans for the future, a look of utter despair flashed across her face so quickly that it was almost imperceptible.

Ekman calls that kind of fleeting look a "microexpression," and one cannot understand why John Yarbrough did what he did on that night in South Central without also understanding the particular role and significance of microexpressions. Many facial expressions can be made voluntarily. If I' m trying to look stern as I give you a tongue-lashing, I'll have no difficulty doing so, and you' ll have no difficulty interpreting my glare. But our faces are also governed by a separate, involuntary system. We know this because stroke victims who suffer damage to what is known as the pyramidal neural system will laugh at a joke, but they cannot smile if you ask them to. At the same time, patients with damage to another part of the brain have the opposite problem. They can smile on demand, but if you tell them a joke they can't laugh. Similarly, few of us can voluntarily do A.U. one, the sadness sign. (A notable exception, Ekman points out, is Woody Allen, who uses his frontalis, pars medialis, to create his trademark look of comic distress.) Yet we raise our inner eyebrows all the time, without thinking, when we are unhappy. Watch a baby just as he or she starts to cry, and you'll often see the frontalis, pars medialis, shoot up, as if it were on a string.

=======================

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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 05:30 PM
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26. Scientists Say Everyone Can Read Minds
I can't listen to him,
I have to press the mute button and read the captions.

Here's a news story related to yours.

http://www.livescience.com/humanbiology/050427_mind_rea...

Scientists Say Everyone Can Read Minds
...
In 1996, three neuroscientists were probing the brain of a macaque monkey when they stumbled across a curious cluster of cells in the premotor cortex, an area of the brain responsible for planning movements. The cluster of cells fired not only when the monkey performed an action, but likewise when the monkey saw the same action performed by someone else. The cells responded the same way whether the monkey reached out to grasp a peanut, or merely watched in envy as another monkey or a human did.

Because the cells reflected the actions that the monkey observed in others, the neuroscientists named them "mirror neurons."

Later experiments confirmed the existence of mirror neurons in humans and revealed another surprise. In addition to mirroring actions, the cells reflected sensations and emotions.
...
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 05:40 PM
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32. She didn't say "read minds". She referred to visceral reactions.
Two completely distinct notions: reading minds and visceral reactions.

However, your exploration into the potential of the human mind is always an interesting one. We haven't a clue about our potential. If we did, humans would no longer wage violence and death upon other humans,...they would preserve the environment which preserves their lives,...they would know their capacity to recreate reality.

Hence, we have a LONG way to go before expanded capacity of the human mind can be demonstrated.
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 05:54 PM
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35. the subject title was misleading
Stephanie's post was about "microexpressions",
my post was about a cluster of neurons that reacts to them.
The subject title was misleading, it's not about ESP.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 08:17 PM
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90. Being "perceptive" was misleading?
I'm not sure hnow her post was misleading to you.

However, I will say this about her post,...there are people who observe, whether intentionally or not, the "actions" of other people vis-a-vis physical signals or by behavior.

I interpret what I "SEE",...which is apparently an odditity in this human existence.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 09:31 AM
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127. She means the headline of the article she posted was misleading
It refers to "reading minds" but it really involves the same sort of subtle perceptions that my article discusses. It's just a sensational headline.
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chalky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 09:58 PM
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114. Sounds like we're having a legitimate reaction to the chimpster.
Edited on Thu Apr-28-05 10:00 PM by chalky
Having trouble processing the dissonent messages we're getting from the garbage he's spewing and the reality we're reading in his microexpressions. It's creating a confusion that leads to a sort of vertigo.

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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 05:17 PM
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11. no. my blood pressure literally goes up whenever i see the cretin on tele
vision, and i too, switch the channel, (or sometimes i mute it to make myself endure his image on television and try to discern what his mood is--my reaction to the faces that he makes and the postures that he adopts, pretty much tell me whether he is angry,or abusively misusing facts, or lying ... --these are things that i can confirm either as i read the running stream on the television screen, or if there is no screen, these are things i can confirm when i read a transcript of what the cretin said.

Sometimes i wonder why i want to punish myself by looking at him ... but it has become a challenge for me to try and guess at his mood and what he might be saying based on the looks of his face.

And sometimes i keep the volume on even when my bloodpressure is going up ... just to hear him slur his words, or utter incoherences.

Gees. I wonder if there is a thread of masochism inside my soul.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 05:33 PM
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28. When you "mute", have you noticed the clear switch between,...
,..."used car salesman pitch" and "pleased with me" (I call it "the smirk") looks on his face?

My blood pressure goes way up everytime I just watch him because what I "see" is deception with pleasure,...or something. It's disturbing. Actually, listening to him is far worse, though. That experience really brings meaning to the "head exploding" phrase.
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 05:18 PM
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12. He makes me want to puke.
Seriously. I can stand to look at a still photo of him, but if it's moving and has a soundtrack of him talking, I fucking lose my lunch.
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mpyle27 Donating Member (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 05:18 PM
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13. You are not.
I really recommend taking a break from the news every once in awhile. You would be surprised how it effects you. I felt so much better after taking a few days off. Remember, "Everything is going to be alright!"
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 05:18 PM
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15. My husband screams, I feel neausus. My father (Vietnam vet) has taken up
throwing things across the room.

My mother simply leaves the room (probably to avoid flying objects from my angry father) and busies herself instead of, as she says, "no longer acting like a lady" (she's Southern.)
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 05:19 PM
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16. I don't even have to actually physically see him to have a
negative reaction. A pic will do the same. :puke:
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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 06:57 PM
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52. Same here - in fact I have to scroll down when there are pictures
of him because even a mere glimpse of the ugliness makes me apoplectic.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 05:20 PM
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17. He gave me Colitis.
I kid you not. I have such a visceral reaction to the idiot that the stress of him being in Al Gore's WH, his destruction of our country, his LOOKS :puke:, the way he talks, the way he walks...EVERYTHING about him PISSES ME OFF. I'm getting mad right now just thinking about him!....He gave me Colitis. :( My doctor asked me if I had been under any stress and I couldn't go into one of my anti-Bush rants, so I just told him...no. The bastard made me sick...literally. I NEVER watch him when he's on TV. I just cannot do it. I go into a rage. I truly do detest the man. :grr:
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 06:26 PM
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40. Incredible. The only other living thing to which I react adversely,...
,...is poison sumac. Seriously.

Have you or your family EVER had such a physical reaction to another human being, EVER?

:shrug: I just find it "unusual" to have such a physical response to another person. I've never experienced it before.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 06:36 PM
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47. Never have detested any other person
as much as I detest that man. Just the sight of him angers me. Or a news report about him, sets me off. Or listening to his supporters makes my blood pressure go through the roof. Or hearing the MSM fawn over him royally pisses me off!! That's why my TV stays on C-SPAN all day long. I do not want to hear one thing from or about that creature. :grr:
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 07:35 PM
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64. I have the capacity to separate a "leader's" influence from those,...
,...vulnerable to that influence.

I refuse to bash those who have been betrayed and used by this leader. They are NOT bad people. They are hurting like the rest of us,...struggling through COMMON human disappointments and suffering and confusion.

The only difference between us,...is that,...there are those of us who believe we are empowered enough to be free to question and demand that our leaders serve ALL our interests rather than funnel our resources to themselves,...and there are those of us who believe that our "leadership" WILL serve our best interests.
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chookie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 05:21 PM
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19. I have to turn him off
That nasal whine hits my ear drums like an icepick. I turn the sound off immediately. I do not know what would happen if I subjected myself to more than a few seconds of this idiot.

He is also repulsive in person. I marveled at what a total spaz he was when I saw him in person, up close, on two occasions.

It's not just the content of his words. It is also his spaz mannerisms and that silly ass nasal whine.

I really do not know how some people can subject themselves to listening to him for minutes at a time.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 05:23 PM
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20. Besides making me ill, he's had a really adverse affect on my
language skills. :grr:
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 05:29 PM
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25. Oh, you're just misunderestimating yourself. n/t
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 07:40 PM
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68. Hey, hey, hey
don't go nukular on us!

Who knew the antichrist would be so fucking stupid?
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zippy890 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 05:24 PM
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21. It alarms me how much he repulses me
I cannot tolerate his idiotic talking, his beady eyes, his loathesome swagger. I, too become sickened physically, my stomach turns. 10 seconds at the most, and I turn it off.

Weird, I've never had such reactions to people.

Still photos of him aren't so bad -- I download them and photoshop them into funny things-- its good therapy.
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dbonds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 05:26 PM
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22. All of the above plus the middle finger on my right hand goes straight and
pulls my hand up to about head level.
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etherealtruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 05:28 PM
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23. I vacillate ...
... between rage and embarrassment. If my kids hear me utter certain "F" words they invariably ask, "What did * do now?"
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 05:29 PM
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24. I'm EXACTLY the same way.
And I hadn't realized it, but I've never reacted to anyone like this, either. I don't watch TV, but when I hear him on the radio I can't lunge for the off-button fast enough.

I mean, Hitler was a repellent and evil man, but I don't feel like my head is going to explode when I see those movies of him.
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mantis49 Donating Member (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 05:32 PM
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27. My stomach flip-flops or
I get a sinking feeling in my stomach or just nausea.
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mcar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 05:34 PM
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29. You're not alone
I simply cannot watch him speak. It was difficult to watch the debates, except that he did so poorly compared to Kerry.

I don't watch his speeches and I hate to see him in the paper. I actually had a slight gag reaction when I saw him and Laura on the cover of the Sunday paper magazine this weekend.
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hippiegranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 05:36 PM
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30. he's my first too
I have never ever had such a physical revulsion towards another human being in my whole life. He represents the absolute worst of the worst. He is right up there with John Wayne Gacy, Ted Bundy, Hitler... and only the latter had even close to the amount of power that this dimbulb psychopath has.
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rniel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 05:37 PM
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31. Mine goes deeper
Edited on Thu Apr-28-05 05:38 PM by rniel
I can't even look at Britney Spears on tv anymore because of seeing her on Farenheit 9/11 talk about how she likes bush.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 05:59 PM
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36. Be careful about transferring responsibility, please.
Transferring responsbility (blame-staking) is a mistake,...and is frequently used/manipulated by predators against victims or those who have no relationship to the inappropriate or illegal behavior engaged by the predator.
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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 05:44 PM
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33. Just that *smirk* makes me feel like menopause on steroids.
Edited on Thu Apr-28-05 06:39 PM by Sapphire Blue
... make that menopause on PCP. That *smirk*, that voice, that psychotic arrogance... I can't stand anything, NOT ANYTHING, NOT ONE DAMN THING, about that *%H$)(#$)$%*%*$!!! I flip the channel as soon as there's the slightest possibility of him desecrating my TV. If I don't do it quickly enough, I'm cussing up a blue streak in a way that would put a well traveled sailor to shame... and if my windows are open, the neighbors get an earful. (Keep in mind that if a man cusses in my presence, he typically excuses his indiscretion very politely... perhaps he thinks I might be offended) I am not typically foul-mouthed, but that WH Resident seems to bring this reaction out in me... quite vociferously.

My wish for that Fascist WH Thug is that, in his next incarnation, he return as a carbuncle in the anus of a Crohn's Disease patient with diarrhea (without medical insurance as a result of Thug's greedy, filthy policies).
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 08:37 PM
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94. ROTFLMAO. Thanks for the laugh...
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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 12:45 PM
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131. Just call me Mt. St. Helens
Edited on Fri Apr-29-05 12:46 PM by Sapphire Blue
... make that Mt. Vesuvius.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 05:54 PM
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34. Fascinating. I knew I wasn't COMPLETELY alone when I ran across,...
,...a friend of mine, yesterday. When I mentioned my disgust at the Bush administration, her whole physical demeanor completely changed from overall relaxed and content to tense and angered.

I observed, "Look at us. Look at our reaction to the mention of Bush. Look at our bodies. Isn't that weird?" She suggested that it's simply foresight and experience reacting to blind power-mongering. Still, we both took note at observable physical reactions,...which were amazing: a complete joinder of cognitive intention and behavioral influence, right there.
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TK421 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 06:09 PM
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37. I get a terrible bout of diarrhea every time he speaks...
Would that count?
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 06:13 PM
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38. I think Freepers have a different reaction
and must go take cold showers after that :shrug: :puke:

Yeah, I know what you mean. I just get really tense when I see his smiling face. It has to be bad for my blood pressure. They should have warnings like they do on cigarette labels that say something like "This president is bad for your health".
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burn the bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 06:21 PM
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39. I so the same thing
he makes my body create negative chemicals that piss me off, upsets my stomach and makes it tighter to breathe. I don't know if anyone else has ever made me feel quite this way before either.

can we sue him for making us sick?
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 06:29 PM
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41.  Well
My disability gets worse with stress so everytime I see the monkey I exp pain. Can I sue?
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BigBearJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 06:30 PM
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42. I still remember laughing the first time I saw him on t.v. and what I said
"like THAT guy has a snowball's chance in hell of being elected.
There's only so much that money can buy."

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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 07:43 PM
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71. And then you found out that money can buy more than you thought, eh?
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 07:55 PM
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83. *smack*
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 08:05 PM
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85. smack?
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 08:27 PM
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92. What? Do you believe money can *buy* peace of your mind?
If so, how?

I'd be very interested to know that kind of peace,...of mind.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 08:55 PM
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100. No, I was directly responding to the comment
about not believing that the Bush money would get Chimpy boy into the WH. It clearly did.

It certainly wasn't Smirky's charm, intelligence, coherent (not) policies, ballots or anything else that should have determined it.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 09:22 PM
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103. Yep. We're on the same page. We're ALL on the same page.
ALL being betrayed.

YUP. SAME PAGE.

Hopefully, we'll ALL gather together and oppose those who take advantage of,...the "poor" of spirit or hopte or whatever,...among us.

Yes? :bounce:
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greymattermom Donating Member (680 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 06:32 PM
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44. He sucks
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timtom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 06:33 PM
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45. ABSOLUTELY NOT!!!
I scream until I can turn off the image or sound bite featuring that one who calls himself the president.

I also emit curses and imprecations.
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tallahasseedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 06:36 PM
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46. I do the same exact thing.
I have never had this happen before him.
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 06:43 PM
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48. When I see the sonofabitch on TV I get a weird queasiness in my gut.
Seriously. Can't explain it, but...there it is. I just want to kick him in the balls. Over and over.
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 06:49 PM
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50. I feel a mild but definite nausea when I hear him, and I'd bet my
blood pressure goes up. I can't bear his voice or the sight of his face. I too don't have that reaction to anyone else. it's powerful.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 06:52 PM
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51. I'm with you.
and I still force myself to watch the fool. I agree though. I consider myself a fairly psychically tuned individual and it's true watching him is like a poison in my soul. I sense true wrongness about him.
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 07:01 PM
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53. I want to go "elvis"
with my tv when he's on. (some may remember what elvis did)
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Catfight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 07:03 PM
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54. is Jeff Gannon there to ask snowball questions again? Lies lies lies,
oh yeah. Why does bush think that more gas consumption is the answer by building more to suck up more? WORST president EVER...someone get out the bush flags to stick in the dog shit.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 07:50 PM
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78. Oh, how I wish one of the press poodles
would ask him if he misses Jeffy. Not gonna happen so no need to watch.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 07:04 PM
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55. Sounds like stress or anxiety. When I hear him, I just get embarassed
Horribly embarassed, that is. The whole world is watching, and this douchebag is speaking for us.

What must they think? How stupid must the world think we are?
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 07:13 PM
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56. I don't get a physical reaction....
... but I simply cannot listen to him, or especially watch him on TV.

Every fiber of my being screams at me "fraud, liar". Hardly one sentence comes out of his mouth that I do not feel is dishonest.

In fact, his trademark smirk is a classic tell of a liar, psychology 101.

I read about what he said the next day. I just cannot watch the guy.
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gristy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 07:14 PM
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57. Me too
Edited on Thu Apr-28-05 07:15 PM by gristy
Mostly emotional, but some physical. It's his lies that put me over the edge. Hydrogen - a source of energy. Now there is a whopper.
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cbear70 Donating Member (654 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 07:16 PM
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58. no
I cannot stomach him and have gotten physically ill since the election and yes my bp goes up and my stomach tightens and I have to turn him off... :puke:
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rfrrfrrfr Donating Member (163 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 07:27 PM
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60. If I see or hear him
for more than 10 seconds I start to get an upset stomache. So far he is the only person I have had this kind of reaction to. The rest of his gang just make me angry, and not phyically ill.
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 07:32 PM
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62. Absolutely not.
I experience a very real stomach churn when I see his image. It is neither a figure of speech nor hyperbole. I grit my teeth when I hear his voice and I've noticed my shoulders tense. The only other time I have experienced such a physical reaction to a person was to a real class A bitch in college.
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ailsagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 07:37 PM
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65. No, you're not. My whole being clenches when I think of him.
It's a very dark, disabling, ugly feeling I get where * is concerned. I can barely look at a photo of him.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 07:38 PM
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66. same here
it varies between anger, disgust, and hatred
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 07:38 PM
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67. same here!
i can't watch that slack-jawed yokel, never could, and his voice grates on my ears, so forget that too! you are NOT alone!
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 07:40 PM
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69. Not anymore
Nobody gives a shit what this idiot says. Fox will get a press release telling them what Bush REALLY said and that's what everybody will think in 2 days anyway. He may as well be a pull the string chatty kathy standing up there, for as much as what he says is actually worth.
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bluedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 07:42 PM
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70. I also do..Thanks DU'ers...........
I feel my blood pressure rise and my ulcers start acting up....its because WE can't make him shut up and WE can't make him change his mind on anything.WE know hes f'ed up the country and lied all over the place....yet he still won't take any blame and all his problems he puts on the past administration.........

I really "Thank" the people here on DU for being able to watch him.and put it down in his own words.........the media always filters out the f*** ups .....here we get the truth.....for those of us who dare not watch him but want some good reporting......you DU'ers are a great asset....Thank-You All. :yourock:
:thumbsup:
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blue neen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 07:44 PM
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72. It's like a "fight or flight" response.
My heart starts beating rapidly. I know my blood pressure must go up. My stomach gets really sick. I think my nostrils even flair!

I CANNOT watch him. If I watched him tonight, I wouldn't be able to sleep. He's not worth it. ARGH!

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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 07:44 PM
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73. Maybe, it's the "self-serving agenda", always pre-planned to IMPOSE,...
,...upon us all,...that I detect.

He NEVER prepares to justify his position. HE IS ALWAYS PREPARED TO MARKET A NEOCON/CORPORACRAT AGENDA!!!

He is worse than a "used car salesman". He is selling out Americans, humanity,...to the money hungry.

He says it's all "politics" over and over and over again,...while selling out the soul of the American people and the ideal of democracy, without a thought.
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SunDrop23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 07:45 PM
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74. I'm right there with you.
He has to be drunk.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 07:48 PM
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75. This morning as I was driving home from work
I had The Mountain (a nice liberal radio station) on and they mentioned that there would be a news conference tonight. One of the personalities said he loved these news conferences. The other, with some revulsion in her voice, asked why. He said that after * does his prepared remarks, he usually wanders off script and it's hilarious. He did some really scathing imitations of same.

I love the Mountain. I will not, as usual, be watching the comedy. You fine folks here will point out the amusing and the "important". He was the Governor of my state once. Didn't like him then, despise him now.
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Greylyn58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 07:48 PM
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76. You're not alone
I hate the pResident so much that I can't even stand to watch him talk. So I'm relying on those with stronger stomachs to relate what pResident dumb-ass has to say. :argh:

He makes me physically ill. :puke:




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A Brand New World Donating Member (803 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 07:53 PM
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81. I've been meaning to tell you that I love the pic of your Golden. I also
have one.They are the best dogs. I also have a kitty.
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Greylyn58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 08:41 PM
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98. Sheridan is my baby
even at 9 years old. I love him to pieces. My folks refer to him as their fur-grandkid since I don't have children.

The kitties are some from my past.

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A Brand New World Donating Member (803 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 07:49 PM
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77. Same feelings and more. I have hated him from the first moment
I saw him back in the 2000 primaries. I normally run for the remote the second his chimpy face and grating voice come on. I only watch these news conferences waiting for the melt-down that is sure to occur. But it's absolute torture watching and listening to him. But communicating this disgust here helps to bear the torture.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 07:51 PM
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79. I literally get sick to my stomach while watching and listening to him.
I am sitting here nauseous.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 07:52 PM
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80. I don't have any of those things. Because I can't bear to watch him.
Or listen to him. At all. When he comes on the radio, I mute it. I am getting very very good at an almost instant reaction. I can only read about his actions, and sometimes see a picture of him for very short periods of time.
I couldn't bear to hear Reagan either. Smarmy insincerity and blatant ignorance, the outright lies, said with a smile in patronizing, condescending tones, it's all just too repugnant to experience, even via tv or radio.
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 07:56 PM
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84. Not at all!
For me, first it's x(. Then :grr: Then :wtf:. Then :crazy:, for why is he pResident. Then :argh:, another lie, and the channel is changed.
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 08:07 PM
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86. Needless to say, I don't watch or listen to him
Why go through that?
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 08:09 PM
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87. No... I always...
:puke:

My MD says he's overwhelmed w/people suffering from panic disorder, anxiety, nightmares, stressful feelings because of that smirkin, thieving, lieing chimp!
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 08:13 PM
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89. My ears get stuffed up when I hear his phony Texas accent...
And although I'd like to interpret that symptom in a psychoanalytic fashion, i.e., my ears are stopping up because I don't want to hear his lies, I'm certain that the ear stuffiness is a by-product of rising blood pressure. :grr:
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texanwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 08:18 PM
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91. No, you not, he makes most of ill to some degree.
I :applause: any one who can stand to listen to him, I tried tonight but had to turn him off after only a few minutes.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 08:28 PM
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93. Absolutely not. I get physically ill. The my stomach gets in a knot at
the site or sound of him. I simply CANNOT stand him! It is almost like an extreme allergic reaction...anaphylactic shock type of reaction. My breathing gets rapid, heart beat increases, blood pressure goes up, and I must rush to the radio or TV andget rid of his image or sound.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 08:38 PM
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95. Thank you,...ALL,...for PROVING that I am NOT ALONE!!!!
Thank you. Ya'll just validated my existence. Whether we deny or or not,...we NEED validation.

When we validate one another,...take hands in our common human struggle,...together,...

Then, we will be "pro-life",...for the living!!!!

Someday.b
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OnionPatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 08:40 PM
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96. Count me in
I just posted on another thread that seeing and especially hearing him makes me physically ill. That's never happened to me with anyone before.
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 08:40 PM
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97. No--my blood pressure goes up
and I always reach for food.
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truth2power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 08:44 PM
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99. No, I feel the same way. I think it's because we (the aware)
know in our gut the boy's not right. Something really, really wrong. I mean mental. And it creeps you out. :scared:
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demo dutch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 09:05 PM
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102. I get violent and start yelling at the TV
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 09:26 PM
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104. I also have a visceral, physical reaction.
He just makes me plain sick. I've never felt such utter disgust and contempt for a human being before.
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Jersey Ginny Donating Member (549 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 09:34 PM
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105. My Blood Pressure goes up and I get an awful jolt, like I'm being attacked
It really sucks. Then my family, all repubs, call and try to needle me for fun. It sucks and it is aging me. I got rid of cable TV to protect myself from visceral rage and deep disappointment over the direction of my country.
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Sugarcoated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 09:38 PM
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109. I can't take his phony act
now or when I first saw him in that sit down debate with McCain nine years ago and that freaky look on his face, stumbling all over his words and not making sense. Five or six seconds and it's emergency channel change time. He's God awful - even Repubs know that.
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demgurl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 09:34 PM
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106. I just start yelling VERY loudly at the TV!
Tonight I finally had to get my hubby to shut it off because I swore the man was going to cause me to have a heart attack! I mentioned to hubby, last night, that I never ever talked to inanimate objects before Georgie took office. Now I scream at it all the time correcting people when they are wrong or they do not ask enough questions about the * admin. I get very, very angry!!!!
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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 09:38 PM
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108. My BP and pulse rate increase measurably...
as they do for any threat to my life and liberty.
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90-percent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 09:46 PM
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111. bush speaks
Can't bear to listen and usually won't.

It's galling that he knows that everything he says is a lie as he is speaking it. Or else I'm much better informed on World Affairs and Economics than our Prez is.

FUCK THE FUTURE!


-85%
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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 09:50 PM
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112. Oh yes, he knows he's lying, but if he speaks sincerely most...
of the sheeple will swallow it hook, line, and sinker.
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Jane Austin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 09:57 PM
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113. I have the same thing. Have had it since I first saw him on television.
I think he is the only person I've ever had this reaction to.

I know several other people who have that visceral reaction, too.

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chalky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 10:05 PM
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115. Remember that guy that had a seizure every time he heard Mary Hart's voice
on the television?

Same reaction. (Okay, minus the falling to the floor and swallowing the tongue part. But I do have to turn the channel when I see him. Seriously.)
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Sugarcoated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 10:09 PM
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118. Actually, Bush Sr. was pretty cringe worthy
Reagan annoyed me, but it was Nancy that really rubbed me the wrong way. That slimeball congressman Drier grates on me like sandpaper. But nobody invokes the bile like Dubya.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 10:06 PM
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116. No, it's not just you!
I go out of my way not to put myself in physical harm by seeing or hearing monkeyboy.

So, it's a surprise to me that * affects other people like that, too!
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Donailin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 10:10 PM
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119. I cringe. I wince
Edited on Thu Apr-28-05 10:10 PM by Donailin
and I imagine all the reporters must do the same. Quite frankly, I'm speechless when Bush talks -- I can't believe this moron is the POTUS. It boggles the mind when one thinks about it. He has like six talking points, that's all he can apparently commit to memeory. It's so embarassing.

And when he threw out that 'polls and focus group' bullshit,I wanted to punch him in the face. I'm the people, part of that "of the people for the people and by the people" focus group.

Fucking asshate, he is.
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warsager Donating Member (265 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 10:18 PM
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122. Voted for Bush?
I am curious if there is anyone out there that voted for Bush and now, realizing how incredibly brain dead they must have been at the time, have joined this fight to rid the world, the planet, the universe, of this evil man and his crime family?

ANYONE?

It's THOSE PEOPLE that we need to join us to have any chance at all, or am I am kidding myself that there is a chance?

I went to a protest yesterday, in the largest city in the US, Los Angeles, downtown at 5PM. The busiest time of day, on a week day, in front of the Court House, to protest the looming overturning of the filibuster. There were, maybe, 75 people there. Out of a city of HOW many millions?

Where are the people? The people that care? The people that become violently nauseated at the sound of him?

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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 10:18 PM
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123. i get ill
physically ill. like an allergic reaction. nausea. I've discovered though, that if I don't actually turn it on, or if it is on if I turn the creep off, everything is fine.

So have the creeps actually made an on paper proposal for how they intend to f*ck social security, or is this just more bullshit in the never-ending game to con the democrats into initiating deform?
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dxstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 10:40 PM
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124. What you're all experiencing is a perfectly natural response...
To being confronted face-to-face with an ancient and formidable evil that is NOT OF THIS EARTH.
I've pointed this out before, how Bush can't get his own dog Barney to come anywhere near him; for me, this PROVES the old adage that DOGS CAN SENSE EVIL.
Also, even though it's technically a real marvel, there's just something about that rubber "human" mask he wears that doesn't look quite real, or looks TOO real, I'm not sure which...
I don't have such visceral reactions myself; I used to, but it's amazing what you can acclimate yourself to when survival is at stake... and besides, SOMEBODY'S gotta keep an eye on the demon; considering what he's been willing to do right out in the open, with cameras rolling and all, who knows what he might try if we looked away for more than a couple seconds?
I am most offended by his obvious ignorance and indifference to others' opinions or needs, and that ugly fuckin' monkey-smirk of his; he seems to smirk most when he's sowing some new horrible mischief...
He is devouring the very future of humanity right before our eyes.



I can't really blame anyone for turning away...
But please try to remember something here:
These guys are only monsters.
And they're more afraid of you than you are of them.

D X Stone
"I LOVE horror movies, man... I just don't want to LIVE in one."
http://presidentevilonline.com
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Dervill Crow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 10:49 PM
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125. You have no idea.
I'm on meds now that I've NEVER been on before. That primate is making me crazy. The thing that saddens me is that I have two co-workers who give me the same visceral gut-wrench whenever they walk into my office. They're both nice ladies, but they fill me with disgust because they believe all that "man of God" crap he peddles.
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carolinayellowdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 09:25 AM
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126. It's our amygdalas telling our bodies we're in danger
Hey,

I started a DU thread on this subject 3 years ago and the response was very similar to what we see today. My then-80-year-old mother told me that she could not stand the sight of his face or the sound of his voice, and always changed the channel when he appeared. Her best friend Kathleen reported the same reaction. That was the first time anyone raised the subject with me, and I felt validated. I was so horrified by the coup of 2000 that I stopped watching all TV for 6 months in order to avoid any exposure to his image or voice. Later I eased back in but always turn it off when he appears. Same with radio; the sound of the voice is somehow more horrifying than the sight of the smirk.

If you examine his approval ratings around the world, it is evident that this visceral horror reaction is extremely common, even normative. If Faux, CNN et al had not been constantly "spraying perfume over dog t--ds" (to use Samantha Bee's marvelous expression) the American public would smell the stink as well as the rest of the world does.

What is being set off by the face and voice is our amydalas (amydalae?) Here's a quote from a fine new book, Undoing Perpetual Stress by Richard O'Connor: "Especially pay attention to first impressions of people and situations. Negative impressions are, I think, often corret amygdala reactions that there is something to be afraid of here. When you have such a reaction, look into it-- mindfully, objectively, carefully." Earlier in the book he describes the role of the amygdala: "a center for emotional responses, especially the fear response...connects through the hypothalamus directly to the rest of the body to generate the fight or flight response without a detour through the thinking part of the brain..."

Trying to follow O'Connor's advice, and look into this phenomenon mindfully, objectively, and carefully, I note one common thread in the perceptions shared by DUers and others. That is, NO ONE ELSE HAS EVER GENERATED SUCH A RESPONSE. Absolutely true for me and for many who have posted in this thread. I didn't like Reagan or Bush I, but never felt the horror/terror that Dub evokes. Now, I wonder is whether there is something uniquely evil or dangerous about this *individual*? Somehow I think not. The uniqueness of our reaction (for those who have never felt this way about anyone else) is more about the uniqueness of the threat he poses to humanity.

While not quite ready to agree that the threat is from non-human sources, it's certainly *anti*-human. Devoid of empathy, avid for destruction, endlessly greedy for his superrich "base", appealing to the darkest and basest motives of Americans.

Maybe JPII's alleged fears about Dubya being the Antichrist had some basis. If so, the fact that his successor tipped the election in Dubya's favor suggests something terrifying about the role of the Church in the world today.
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ernstbass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 09:38 AM
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128. I feel that way when I see a Chimpie bumper sitcker!
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jojo54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 09:41 AM
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129. Same feelings, except I have those feelings for any of them.
That is, the ones involved with * in any way, shape or form.
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Mrs_Beastman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 09:44 AM
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130. Mr B's face turns red and my just feel sick
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orpupilofnature57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 06:05 PM
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132. I instantly wince.
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