Is it alright for a guy to smack his wife around a little bit?

[NNN0LHI]

You know. If she gets out of line? Like if she won't listen. I don't mean beat her or nothing. Nothing real violent. Just a good smack upside her head occasionally. Kind of to let her know how is who is in charge.

I seen it work before real good. It sure did. The woman would straighten right up too. No more talking back or making any more problems or anything. Kind of taught her a lesson I guess?

So do you think it is alright in certain circumstances for a man to do that to his wife or girlfriend? And if it is not alright just why the fuck would it be alright to do the same thing to a little kid under any circumstances?

Don

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

1. I agree..what's with all this violence?

Yeah..hitting a hysterical kid is gonna make them less hysterical :sarcasm:

[NewHampshireDem]

2. Only if she was doing something dangerous ...

like playing with matches, running out into the road, or voting. :evilgrin:

[yvr girl]

3. oh, boy

:popcorn:

BTW, no.

[noiretextatique]

4. you should have done a poll, NN0LHI

i doubt you will get those who think this ok to actually post. however, someone posted a "whose rights would you sell down the river to win back power" poll, and though few who would sell gays down the river actually posted in the thread, they did vote in the poll.

[politicaholic]

5. Of course not, but...

It's okay to smack around a pillow or a tennis ball. Watch out for the tennis balls though...they smack back if you hit them hard enough.

[Modem Butterfly]

6. If you don't see a difference between domestic violence and spanking...

...well, I feel sorry for you.

[readmoreoften]

18. Isn't spanking

Something a dominatrix does to a client who has sexually eroticized being repetively slapped on an erogenous zone as a child? Some people even orgasm from the repetitive stimulation a spanking provides.

So I think maybe different disciplinary options might be in order in an enlightened society. Not NO discipline. Just not discipline that, in some cases, is actually sexual abuse.

[Modem Butterfly]

26. Not necessarily, no

For instance, I was spanked as a child and do not wish to be spanked now. Some folks weren't spanked as children and do wish to be spanked. And domination involves much more than simple spanking...

Of course, if you're concerned about eroticiztion in childhood, you'd better not make children wear shoes, since some adults get off on shoes. And you'd better not make your daughters wear stockings to church or other events, since some adults really get off on stockings. And you'd better not let your kids fingerpaint, since some adults really enjoy body-painting. Also, don't diaper or feed your baby from a bottle, since some adults really enjoy being diapered and bottle fed... I could go on, but I'd rather not get deleted.

[northzax]

7. is it ok for a man to send his wife to her room?

or deny her the right to leave the house? or tell her she can't have ice cream? or go to the park? or talk on the telephone? or that her bedtime is now 8 pm? no? then extending your logic, al of these things are innapropriate to do with children.

confining an adult against her will is a felony, same for the child?

[saltpoint]

8. Let's ask Lorena Bobbitt and see what she thinks.

[Cuban_Liberal]

9. Not just 'no', but 'HELL NO'! n/t

[UdoKier]

10. No. Never.

A woman is a grown adult with the ability to make decisions and understand their repercussions.

A rare spank on the bottom is not the same as a "smack upside the head" and you know it.

[leftofthedial]

11. whut if a smack don't larn her nuthin?

Jeezis says the man is the boss. I hurd it on rush.

[enki23]

12. depends.

on whether or not you are married to a five-year-old.

/sarcasm

[Dutch]

13. Oh, but "hitting" and "kissing her with your fist" are not the same thing

As long as you use a nice, inoffensive sounding word (like "spank", rather than "hit"), it's OK.

[Goldmund]

14. Sure as hell

I does it all the time. Never broke her a bone or nuttin, but a bruise or two sure looks nice on that pretty face, she don't even have to wear makeup for a couple days.

[Quakerfriend]

15. This post has no place at DU

[_TJ_]

16. Well said !! You are my personal GOD!

I think I may be in love with you :D

[aquart]

17. Are people not reading to the end?

Nice piece. Where's it from?

[Modem Butterfly]

19. Bullshit is bullshit

Whether it's Swiftian or not.

[northzax]

25. of course I read to the end

and it's an absurd analogy. the parent-child relationship is completly different than the husband-wife one. While I was never spanked, I did get sent to my room every now and then. what would you say if you were at someone's house and they sent their wife to her room for talking back? abuse, right?

I got grounded, every now and then, no telephone, no TV. imagine if I told my girlfriend that since she came home too late last night that she wasn't allowed to watch TV or talk on the phone this weekend. would you be ok with that?

I received an allowance, based on doing chores around the house. imagine if I told my girlfriend that she could have money only if she cleaned up a bit, and that she couldn't work without my permission. would you think that's acceptable?

please tell me which of these three examples are acceptable for parent-child and not for husband-wife, then tell me why it's different than the hitting one.

seriously, convince me.

[noiretextatique]

32. the analogy is about

the social acceptability of abusing power, not giving a child guidelines and discipline. and of course, not so many years ago, a lot more of us wouldn't find slapping a "wife" around a big deal either.

[northzax]

34. no it isn't, really

it's applying discipline used on a child to an adult situation. I did the same thing.

which one is acceptable?

[noiretextatique]

35. people actually DO beat their spouses

some probably consider it "discipline." some call it smacking instead of beating. the analogy is an apt and accurate one.

[quinnox]

20. well domestic spousal abuse is a crime

and so is child abuse, but spanking is not considered a crime.

[_TJ_]

21. That's the point he's making

Why should a man be allowed to hit a little kid when it's illegal
for him to hit his wife?

[northzax]

28. why should a man be allowed

to impose a curfew on a little kid, when it's illegal for him to confine his wife?

[ogradda]

22. Cripes dude.

Nonononononono..............

[seabeyond]

23. but certainly a man can give his wife a time out, ground her

take away her favorite toy, give her added chores to keep her in line, right. surely that is ok

nah, not right for a wife, certainly not right for a kid. you are right....

lets let the kids run free with no control or power over the child, giving them all the rights and freedoms we do our wives.

hey, and this is from a mom that doesnt spank. i think it is horribly limiting your suggestion to demonize spanking

[caligirl]

24. Bush and Nixon think its ok,

[Book Lover]

27. Thank you for the point

Well made.

[Bluzmann57]

29. No it is not all right to smack your wife around

Never ever at any time. And as far as kids are concerned, it is not ok to smack them, although a swat on the rear will not cause any permanent damage. The wife should be an adult, as should the husband, but kids often don't quite understand what is right or wrong. Never ever hit your kids except maybe (and I mean a big maybe) a spanking across their butt cheeks. If you feel the temper getting away from you, take a walk and get away.

[redqueen]

30. Well I know a few fundie types who agree with you on both...

hit your kids, hit your wife... it's in the bible!

:puke:

[Bridget Burke]

31. Nah, sometimes they fight back.

With kids, the size differential is definitely on your side. But--only hit them to prove that you love them!

[Terry Allan Hall]

33. No!

Striking a woman is never acceptable.

[Moderator]

36. Locking

Continuing flamewars from another thread.