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A POLL: Should Progressive Catholics Remain Members Of The Church?

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Itsthetruth (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Apr-27-05 01:00 PM
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Poll question: A POLL: Should Progressive Catholics Remain Members Of The Church?
Edited on Wed Apr-27-05 01:01 PM by Itsthetruth
I'm voting YES. Having grown up a Roman Catholic, I believe that the hundreds of millions of Catholics who oppose Pope Ratzo's right-wing ideology should not abandon the fight to change official Church policies.

Poll result (33 votes)
YES (21 votes, 64%)Vote
NO (12 votes, 36%)Vote

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   Yes, of course it's up to them, but  kenny blankenship   Apr-27-05 01:02 PM   #1 
   Unfortunately there is no weight to throw around ...  etherealtruth   Apr-27-05 01:05 PM   #2 
   We've had bad popes before  mmonk   Apr-27-05 01:13 PM   #3 
   Yes, and I  forgethell   Apr-27-05 01:14 PM   #4 
   NO! They Should Leave...  arwalden   Apr-27-05 01:16 PM   #5 
   The best way to change the church is from within.  Squatch   Apr-27-05 01:17 PM   #6 
   Yes, change won't come but from within. n/t  420inTN   Apr-27-05 01:19 PM   #7 
   After 60 years, my wife finally left.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Apr-27-05 01:22 PM   #8 
   My heart goes out to liberal catholics  DanCa   Apr-27-05 01:25 PM   #9 
   Since Women Catholics do about 80% of the Labor of Running  Ex_Catholic   Apr-27-05 01:33 PM   #10 
 
kenny blankenship (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Apr-27-05 01:02 PM
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1. Yes, of course it's up to them, but
I'd like to see them start throwing their weight around some more.
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etherealtruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Apr-27-05 01:05 PM
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2. Unfortunately there is no weight to throw around ...
US Catholics make up a small % of the Catholic Church and US Catholics are ~ 50%-50% progressive/conservative. It would be nice if they could
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Wed Apr-27-05 01:13 PM
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3. We've had bad popes before
We can't expect any change if there are no challenges from within. That being said, its up to the individual to decide.
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forgethell (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Apr-27-05 01:14 PM
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4. Yes, and I
would urge conservatives who are offended by their churches to get out of them, too. Find a church you can agree with, refuse to support evil (whatever it is in your mind).

Start a new church, Progressive Roman Catholic Church in America, not affiliated with the patriarchy.
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arwalden (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Apr-27-05 01:16 PM
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5. NO! They Should Leave...
At some point SOMEBODY must take a stand against the Vatican's hate and bigotry and misogyny.

Polite grumblings between parish members that only go as far as the church steps, mean NOTHING. As long as the church can still count folks as paying members then they have no incentive to move forward into the 20th century.





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Squatch (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Apr-27-05 01:17 PM
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6. The best way to change the church is from within.
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420inTN (718 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Apr-27-05 01:19 PM
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7. Yes, change won't come but from within. n/t
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Apr-27-05 01:22 PM
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8. After 60 years, my wife finally left.
She wasn't one of those "Easter" Catholics. Went through the educational system, all the way through high school. Attended mass every Sunday. Finally gave it all up thanks to JPII, abortion, homosexuality, women's rights, and the general corruption evident in the Church. She's now a UU and very happy over her very difficult decision.

I gave it all up at age 12 because I just couldn't believe any of it.

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DanCa (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Apr-27-05 01:25 PM
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9. My heart goes out to liberal catholics
Changing a church isn't like changing a suit, it's a very painful emotional process. As someone who was forced to leave due to internal politicking I know of what I speak. My sugestion is that liberal catholics should start to form thier own communities and try to change the church from within. Single dissenters, like myself, are to easily picked off by the powers that be. As for any liberal catholics still in the church I want to say god bless and keep fighting the power.
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Ex_Catholic (27 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Apr-27-05 01:33 PM
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10. Since Women Catholics do about 80% of the Labor of Running
the church on the grass roots level, if a significant percentage of them took a walk, how long do you think it would take for the Vatican to issue a new directive of the role of women in the Church?
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