Uranium story will be buried & forgotten just like the "Bush Knew" story

[blkgrl]

Remember when we thought Bush was going down when it came out that he may have known beforehand about the planned 911 attacks? Well, the media carried the story for a few days then it was buried and forgotten just like every other scandal involving Bush. Sad, but true. I don't think Bush's lies will ever catch up to him. He is INVINCIBLE.

[Walt Starr]

1. BUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Oh shit, that doesn't even rank a response!

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[blkgrl]

17. Believe me, I hate having to say something like this...

but for the past two years I've watched issues that have the potential to be major scandals swept under the rug time and time again. Bush is invincible.

[poskonig]

3. Evidence, reasoning?

You provided little justification your claim. The inference is faulty -- it is **assumed** since no one believed a conspiracy theory about 911, no one will concerned about American boys dying in Iraq and lies about WMD, which will kill American credibility around the world.

[Q]

8. It's telling that you call concerns about 9-11 a 'conspiracy theory'...

...which more than proves the assertion of the thread author. The Bushies received numerous warnins about hijackings and terrorism on American soil...and he did nothing to prevent or prepare for it.

- I think it's quite possible that a media unwilling to look into the many unanswered questions about 9-11 would have no qualms about letting Bush* off the hook on his most recent lies.

[TheBigGuy]

4. I agree the Yellowcake story is going to do a fade.

Today was probably the climax.

The admin officials pretty much stonewalled or spun it, and I think after this the story really has nowhere to go unless the media really run with it and reports on holes and disconnects in the spin, and reports on it frequently.

I think what we are seeing here is one of those "summer storys"...where something kicks up a bit in the summer as not much is happening, the media run with it for awhile, and then it does a fade.

I would wait one or two more weeks to see whether or not this story has legs.

[Walt Starr]

5. Wolf Blitzer just said, "This story is simply NOT going away!"

They are soooooooo fucked!

[Pathwalker]

Bob Scheaffer says it's not going away, CNN says it's not

going away, even Tweety says it's not going away - you must be watching FAUX. EVERYONE ELSE says it's not going away. Even Wolf.

[Walt Starr]

11. Faux just reported the Smoking Gun

Reported that Tenet had the uranimum claim removed from the October speech.

Even Faux is throwing the adminstration overboard.

Put a fork in 'em, they're done.

[Brian Sweat]

19. This is an interesting contrast

It is the press and an not the president that decides if a story has legs or not. When Ari Flyshit says that the president considered the issue closed and would like to move on, it doesn't mean shit. When Wolf Blitzer says the story is not going away, it is not going away.

[petronius]

12. I agree

And I don't really think the SOTU 'inaccuracy' (I'm feeling generous this morning, I won't use the L word) is enough to do much damage alone. But it really needs to be kept alive in the context of all the other 'misleading' statements from the administration: Cheney mentioned nukes repeatedly, there were the aluminum tubes, all the 9/11 Al Qaeda bogus links, te repeated WMD 'discoveries', and so on. So the SOTU story to me will have more power as one element in list, and harping on it alone really does Bush a favor. Especially if he manages to wriggle out of it; the next big 'error in speaking' will have a little less traction if the heavily promoted SOTU issue fails to stick. Really, we need to be focussing on the total package and not getting exercised over one piece of it.

[TheBigGuy]

16. yeah, in a context sense...

I agree. I think thats how it will work in terms of damagaing Bushes credibility...as part of a pattern.


The deal is that there is no one really connecting the dots or putting together the big picture...meaning the mainstream media.

[Ivory_Tower]

15. I still think this is the summer story

Every summer, the press needs a story, mainly because there isn't much else going on in Washington during the summer. So we get sharks, pedophile priests, Chandra Levy, etc. Sometimes we get political stories -- Watergate, Clinton's deposition, Iran-Contra, the Clarence Thomas hearings.

Unless something major happens to push this in the corner, the Niger lie could be the big summer story. If it gets too big, it could end up taking someone down -- maybe Tenet, maybe even Rice.

The goal for this administration now is to ride this out to September.

But then the question is: How will this impact the administration in the long-term? If the summer story gets REALLY bad, it's possible that the administration will be tainted as untrustworthy, which will make future attempts at "crying Wolfowitz" more difficult -- if they planned on rolling out a "new product" in September (say, drum-beats for war with Iran), will the public trust the administration's so-called evidence?

And, to further extrapolate -- if this effectively hampers the administration from making war on whoever they please, will this mean that the focus will return to the economy? That's not exactly their strong suit.

Of course, all it might take is another terror attack on American soil to slap the media and the public back into line, but I'm going with the "tainted administration" prediction for now.

[TheBigGuy]

20. Crying Wolf-owitz.

Im thinking Wolfowitz would be a fall guy too, if the speculation that OSD had somehting to do with this holds up and this story has legs.

[phillybri]

6. Wrong....

Just wrong. Wait and see....

[bunnyhop]

7. The scandals die because the dems let them die

The dems were in control of the senate for a year following the 9-11 attacks and could have pursued the bush knew story but did nothing.

[glarius]

9. Hope you're wrong but I detect a trend in this mornings talk shows

All Bush's defenders (Condy Rice, Rumsfeld, others) that I saw on TV have come up with: "what the president said in his SOTUS was not wrong or misleading or a lie because the British are still standing by it"....Yesterday they admitted it was an untrue fact and shouldn't have been there but now they are backtracking because someone in the British government has stood by the information....They are totally ignoring Ambassador Wilson's warning that it was wrong, etc....Like I said I hope you're wrong, but it looks kind of iffy right now!

[Terwilliger]

10. who keeps popping 1's?

lets get rid of this rating crap

I agree. Not that he's all powerful, but that the cabal that put Bush in place is.

Condi said this morning that they LISTEN to their intelligence services and have to trust them to relate accurate information.

OH YEAH!?!?!?! What happpened to August 6th, 2001???? YOU DIDN'T LISTEN THEN, CONDI!!!!

[TomNickell]

13. The story about Intelligence Failures died because...

the Bushies started up the Iraq invasion buildup, the Dems didn't function as an opposition party, and American Journalism barely exists anymore.

Inevitable linking of lunatic fringe Conspiracy Theories with legitimate questions about competence and priorites contributed also.

The Uranium story -may- die, but the mess in Iraq is so deep and dank that even the Kool-Kids Corporate Media and the Pink-Tutu Dems may continue the attack.

Eventually the elites understand that a descent into a world of political and economic chaos will cost them more than they gain from some tax cuts.

[DoYouEverWonder]

14. All I can say is I've had

this old Blonde song in my head all morning.

The tide has turned
And I'm holding on.
George W. Bush is finally done
Finally done....

[Nashyra]

18. Why does not one Dem just have the balls to ask the question

What di you thinbk the Repugs would have done if this was Clinton? and look what they did to him for much less.