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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 12:06 PM
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WH on Bolton: ''We need to get him there sooner rather than later.''
Looks like it's going to have to be later, Scottie, if at all. :rofl:



http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/national/AP-UN-Ambassador.html?pagewanted=print&position=


White House Renews Support for Bolton
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

Filed at 12:32 p.m. ET

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Bush administration renewed support Wednesday for John R. Bolton to be the country's representative at the United Nations, a day after unexpected cracks in Republican support threw the nomination into limbo.

''We need to get John Bolton to the United Nations because it is an important position,'' White House press secretary Scott McClellan said. ''We need to get him there sooner rather than later.''

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''I continue to believe that John Bolton would be a really great U.N. permanent representative,.'' Rice told reporters as she flew from Russia to Lithuainia on Wednesday.

The nomination hit a snag Tuesday when a few Republicans on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee joined Democrats in asking to delay a vote on Bolton in favor of a fresh look at allegations of unbecoming conduct. The postponement was a political defeat for Bush -- at least in the short term -- and opened the possibility that the nomination could fall.

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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 12:08 PM
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1. So is this delay messing up their staging of the invasion of
Iran? What are they up to that they need this clown in there in such a hurry?
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LondonReign2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 12:11 PM
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9. Exactly Skidmore!
How are we going to attack Iran in June as scheduled if Bolton doesn't get there quickly to start sabotaging diplomatic efforts??

It'll throw Chimpy's plans all out of whack, and you know how he reacts to being told "NO!"
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Democrats_win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 12:33 PM
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18. Put your tea leafs away, the message is clear--war
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 12:11 PM
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10. Good question.
I think they were planning to attack the make-up of the Security Council and push for Annan's ouster, among other "reforms." But they definitely seem ready to try another trumped up charge against another Islamic country before too long. Bolton is certainly made to order for trumping up charges and general demolition work.
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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 12:14 PM
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12. A classic hallmark of a con artist - insisting you must RUSH!!!!
Everything the administration do that's illegal or immoral is done in a great hurry because they know it won't hold up to scrutiny.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 12:42 PM
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19. Right on the money!
:toast:

I was thinking that yesterday when Lugar tried to bulldoze his way through to the floor vote.
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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 01:01 PM
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21. They're so predictable
I loved when Lugar announced he'd gotten a feed in his earpiece that there were a lot of people watching at the State Dept. right after Voinovich flipped. He knew he wasn't going to bulldoze a vote and he went immediately into damage control mode.

If I heard "but the president wants this candidate to reform the UN" line one more time my head would have exploded.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 01:12 PM
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22. I missed the earpiece bit.
They must have had a loop going so Lugar wouldn't go off script. "Just say, 'The president deserves the consideration to have a vote up or down on this nomination. The president deserves the consideration to have vote up or down on this nomination. The president deserves the consideration to have a vote up or down on this nomination..."

He was even saying that when it was painfully obvious that he didn't have the votes to move it out to the floor! :wtf:
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doublethink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 12:30 PM
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17. My thoughts exactly ....
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fryguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 12:09 PM
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2. in a rush to chuck a big'ole wrench into the UN are we?
what's the timeline they're working under to frustrate and further marginalize the organization? guess its likely tied into their plans for the next invasion . . .
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 12:09 PM
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3. Some people are theorizing that they want Bolton in....
to get the US out of the UN. Does this make sense to anyone?
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 12:10 PM
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6. Actually, it's the only thing that makes sense about this. nt
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fryguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 12:10 PM
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7. not out, but rather to dismantle
or at least to have him there in order to throw up the necessary smoke-screen and disinformaiton strategy needed prior to launching their next pre-emptive attack
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Hand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 12:09 PM
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4. Sooner? Later?
How about NEVER, asshat?

:mad:
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 12:10 PM
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5. self delete
Edited on Wed Apr-20-05 12:10 PM by notadmblnd
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Hobarticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 12:11 PM
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8. "It is an important position"...which is why we've picked this assclown
:puke:
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 12:13 PM
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11. Must be important because they usually pick assclowns for those jobs.
:eyes:
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 12:16 PM
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15. Exactly!
I though I was the only one who thought that - any time the Bush administration nominates a sane person for a job, you gotta assume it's a post they don't care about. :)
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drthais Donating Member (771 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 12:14 PM
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13. now WAIT a minute!
exactly WHAT does 'permanent U.S. representative' mean?
permanent?
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 12:15 PM
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14. Watch for an abuse of the "recess appointment" provisions.
Edited on Wed Apr-20-05 12:22 PM by TahitiNut
The Senate "leadership" (Frist) could call recess the Senate and the White House could make a recess appointment, bypassing the Senate. A recess appointment is one of the executive powers enumerated in the Constitution: "The President shall have Power to fill up all Vacancies that may happen during the Recess of the Senate, by granting Commissions which shall expire at the end of their next Session" (Article II, Section 2, Paragraph 3). The provision was originally created to fill vacancies that actually occurred during a recess, but it has since morphed into an all-purpose executive tool to counter Senate intransigence.

Bush* has used this to appoint both Pickering and Pryor to their seats on their respective Circuit Courts of Appeal. Both were blocked in the Senate.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 12:58 PM
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20. Have they dropped any hints that that was their intention?
Is there recourse to get someone out before the end of that term if some good reason arises?

:scared:
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 02:53 PM
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24. Yes, Their talking heads are floating this "advice."
Removal of these persons seems to be ill-defined territory. despite the wording in the Constitution. The most obvious abuse is overstepping the plain language of the Constitution, which should be viewed in its restrictive sense that the vacancy itself must occur during the recess. Presidents have abused this provision by ignoring the the plain intent of the language, imho. It's language from times when Senate recesses were far longer and travel to D.C. to convene was regarded as prospectively far more onerous.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 12:18 PM
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16. chimp intentionally picked a buffoon to demonstrate his contempt
The senate isn't buying into this kind of cynicism. My guess is he will withdraw his nomination before he gets publicly disgraced, as they probably have a whole file of people willing to out the bastard.

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XOKCowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 01:15 PM
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23. Condi orders staff to Shut Up...
On Monday, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice told her senior staff she was disappointed about the stream of allegations and said she did not want any information coming out of the department that could adversely affect the nomination, said officials speaking on the condition of anonymity.

She's such a team player. Got this from CrooksandLiars. It was buried in a WaPo article today.
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