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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 12:14 PM
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I thought Americans killed fucking nazis.
Are we to believe WWII never happened now? What the fuck is this move towards embracing fascism in our country? Is someone thinking that maybe, since most of that generation is dead now, we've forgotten that 295,000 Americans died their fucking agenda? That's not the Allies from other countries or the 4-6 million Jews, many of whom have family here, if they weren't wiped out entirely. What the fuck is wrong with everyone?
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 12:15 PM
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1. Take a quaalude, shoot up some smack, drink some beer or tequila
Edited on Tue Apr-19-05 12:16 PM by slackmaster
WTF are you talking about?

Are Germans to be ostracized for 10 generations like in Klingon law?
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 12:18 PM
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4. You answered my question.
I'm not talking about Germans, I'm talking about fascists and nazis. What do you think you read?
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 12:20 PM
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7. In context I thought you were referring to the new Pope
:D
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 12:25 PM
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9. Couldn't care less about him, I'm not Catholic.
However, if he promotes a fascist agenda, he can go to hell.
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ellenfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 12:18 PM
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5. he/she's talking about our turn towards fascism with the
current government. has anyone done a detailed comparison of nazi germany to the u.s. today? might be a nice handout to those people who are un-involved.

ellen fl
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PA Mamma Donating Member (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 12:28 PM
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11. Send them these...

Here’s a good hand out:
http://www.anotheramerica.org/fascism.htm

(I liked another one better but couldn’t find the link.)

And a quick movie to e-mail them:
http://www.ericblumrich.com/14.html

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doublethink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 08:31 PM
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19. yea the conformists .....
and the ones that kept quiet in Nazi Germany in Hitlers rise to power plead ignorance quite a bit too. Sad shit.
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LatePeriduct Donating Member (660 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 09:15 PM
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21. Fascist sympathizers not only did that...
They ran the government, as our senators and lied about the de-nazification program.

Democrats and Republicans both, poisoned by extreme fascism. Franklin D. Roosevelt took the fall, before they re-started.

The cult network in Arlington Virginia, who runs the country, is full to the brim with them. http://wmadsen.blogspot.com
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 10:20 PM
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31. A classic:
The Warnings of History (Thom Hartmann)

http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0222-22.htm
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tyedyeto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 09:41 PM
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23. This new pope is a nazi!
That is what we are talking about. He held the ideals of Hitler's regime back in WWII, so yes, he should be ostracized. Do you honestly believe his perception of the world, ie aryan supremacy, has changed since he became a cardinal? Sorry, but I don't buy that notion.
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 12:16 PM
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2. you're in the twilight zone
with the rest of us. yeah, we fought the nazis, but a few escaped and moved here, and crawled their way into the white house.

i know, it's a bad dream and you'll awaken soon
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 12:18 PM
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3. give me a break nt
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 12:27 PM
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10. Thanks for your apathy. - n/t
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PA Mamma Donating Member (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 12:18 PM
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6. Yup !
And Remember we're the "Big Tent" Now !

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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 12:20 PM
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8. Fascists don't belong in my tent.
Fuck them.
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Colorado Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 02:39 PM
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12. Good question. nt
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 02:46 PM
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13. No--not just because they were Nazis.
Our armed forces killed quite a few German soldiers, sailors & airmen during WWII. Not all of them were party members. And numerous civilians, including women & children, died in bombing raids. Were all of them Nazis? (Note: My father & 2 uncles were in the 8th Air Force.)

Quite a few Nazis were forgiven after the war. Remember Werner von Braun on Walt Disney, showing us the future in space?
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ArkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 03:21 PM
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14. Didn't Von Braun write 'I shoot for the Stars'
(but sometimes I hit London)
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LatePeriduct Donating Member (660 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 07:45 PM
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15. Sorry but it is untrue.
Like the documentaries have spoken that can not be undone, secret orders of the Catholic Church helped Nazis take refuge in the United States.

Full fledged societies like Opus-Dei and Knights of Malta took control, and fascist sympathizers inside our own amazing government were put in places of power.

All of this is what happened, so the dominionist spin is now that fascists are good.
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natrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 07:49 PM
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16. nazis suck, facists suck
anyone who is or ever was sucks
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sleipnir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 07:53 PM
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17. This post arises with the smell of victory
or the so-called victory of the masses, which shall take place very soon according to the proposed legend.

So be it.
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 07:54 PM
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18. ...lights, camera!
Edited on Tue Apr-19-05 07:54 PM by HEyHEY
:popcorn:

ACTION!
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 08:43 PM
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20. We are showing symptoms of ALL 14 of the signs of fascism.
Edited on Tue Apr-19-05 08:49 PM by Just Me
Problem is,...like the Germans of the 30's,...we all do not SEE the train a comin',...sadly.

This time, the destruction IS a bit more indiscriminate with the target primarily aimed at "purifying" our nation of ALL individuals who fail to meet the economic mark. We are returning to times that precluded "democracy",...that have proven the danger of concentration of wealth and power to ALL humanity.
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tinonedown Donating Member (329 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 09:36 PM
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22. We killed Japanese too
Should we continue?
Please.
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 10:02 PM
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28. and they were FASCIST, too
hello...

peace
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RevCheesehead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 09:44 PM
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24. Not all American GI's were too thrilled to be doing it.
My dad, among others, was aware of the fact that he was shooting his distant relatives, and fellow Christians. He does not talk about the war, and in no way feels any glory at his participation in it. He also lost his youngest brother during that war.

In one of my first churches, I had a choir member who grew up in Nazi Germany. His family invited me over for Christmas dinner, and he shared some of what he went through, as a German Christian. One day, shortly after the war ended, an American GI came up to him, slapped him on the face, and said "what are you looking at, you fucking Kraut?" Forty years after the fact, he still felt the sting of that encounter. Georg is one of the most devout Christians I have ever known.

I think Georg and my dad have a lot in common. And I think Germans and Americans do, too. I don't see anyone embracing fascism here.
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LatePeriduct Donating Member (660 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 09:57 PM
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26. You forgot this one little item.
The sarcasm tag.

:sarcasm:

Sympathizers to fascist causes, are in truth nothing more than fascists themselves. But they don't want to admit it until the light from within becomes too bright.
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RevCheesehead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 10:06 PM
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29. I prefer my post the way it is, thank you.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 09:54 PM
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25. Apparently, not ENOUGH of them
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 10:01 PM
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27. that is sooooooooooooooooooooo 910
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 10:15 PM
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30. Ever hear of the Gehlen Org?.....Links inside....
Newly Declassified Files Confirm United States
Collaboration with Nazis

<http://www.commondreams.org/views01/0508-05.htm>

=========================
The Gehlen Org
<http://www.davesweb.cnchost.com/gehlen.htm>
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 10:21 PM
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32. And how about Prescott Bush and the Union Bank?....link inside....
Gold Fillings, Auschwitz & George Bush
<http://www.spiritone.com/~gdy52150/bushies.htm>
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 10:26 PM
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33. Rarely do I agree with Slackmaster ....
But I do make exceptions ....

"Take a quaalude, shoot up some smack, drink some beer or tequila" ....

Indeed ...
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