In Iraq Today, 26 US Dead in 19 Days... 1560 total

[leftchick]

I can't find this latest death reported anywhere. I think the number is much higher but is seems Iraq is spiraling out of control, It is Way past time to bring them home!

:(

http://icasualties.org/oif/


Military Fatalities: By Time Period

Period US UK Other* Total Avg Days
4 124 1 5 130 1.65 79
3 579 26 27 632 2.93 216
2 717 27 58 802 1.89 424
1 140 33 0 173 4.02 43
Total 1560 87 90 1737 2.28 762

To View Period Details Click The Period Number
Time Periods Defined
Latest Fatality: Apr 17, 2005
2005: Iraqi Police and Guardsmen Deaths


Military Fatalities: By Month
Period US UK Other* Total Avg Days
4-2005 26 0 0 26 1.37 19
3-2005 36 1 3 40 1.29 31
2-2005 58 0 2 60 2.14 28
1-2005 107 10 10 127 4.1 31

[DemonFighterLives]

1. But all you hear on the news

Is how well it's going.
This sick war is bankrupting our country. Way too much investment in lives and wealth for such poor returns.

[babylonsister]

3. NY Times are complicit in all the lies, as

are the majority of news outlets. Here's a link:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=3498658

[DemonFighterLives]

16. Thanks for the link

I have no doubts in my mind that many war crimes have been committed in Iraq.
And somehow there are many more dead and maimed then we know about.
How many contracted fighters have died? Of course Halliburton and cheney are profitting well.:mad:

[mopaul]

2. amazing how the illusion can be so easily floated, & for so long

you'd hardly notice the rivers of blood and rotting corpses and crippled soldiers and armless orphans.

[unhappycamper]

4. not everybody is asleep

The Smedley D. Butler Brigade of the Veterans for Peace marched in the Patriot’s Day Parade in Concord, MA yesterday.

Link:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=3498927&mesg_id=3498927

[G_j]

5. Cindy Sheehan says the number is more like 4000

she spoke here in Asheville. She said that if a soldier has one foot on the helicopter when they die they are not included in the count.

--
From Will Pitt's blog (FYI)www.truthout.org

Cindy Sheehan had a son. His name was Casey, and he served in the 1st Battalion, 82nd Field Artillery Regiment, 1st Cavalry Division. Casey Sheehan's unit came under fire in Baghdad on April 4th, 2004, from small arms and rocket-propelled grenades, and he was killed. He was 24 years old.

Cindy Sheehan co-founded the group Gold Star Families for Peace. She has heard much from the Bush administration about completing the mission in Iraq in order to honor those who have died there. "My family and my group are offended," she writes, "by hearing this administration say that our troops have to remain in Iraq and complete 'the mission' to honor our loved ones' sacrifices. First of all, no one can explain the mission to us and we don't want any more innocent blood spilled just because it is too late for our soldiers and our families."

[leftchick]

6. How about this fellow, found dead in his sleep in Iraq....

Thank you for the link G j, I had not seen that. We have some here who say that every soldier's death is counted. I just don't see it given anecdotal reportage like these two. How the hell do we really know? Just like during the Vietnam war, the Pentagon will do anything to hide the truth. It will come out eventually as it did back then.
:(

http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/mld/ledgerenquirer/news/local/11428658.htm


PORTAGE, Ind. -- Steven Sirko didn't have to go to Iraq.

The U.S. Army combat medic had been offered a chance to join the Army's Special Forces, said his dad, Rick Sirko.

It would have meant remaining stateside, but Steven had met another army medic, Virginia, while in medical training in Fort Hood, Texas. They were married in October 2004.

She was being deployed to Iraq and Steven wanted to be near his new wife.

Sirko, a soldier with the Fort Benning-based 3rd Brigade in Maqdadiyah, Iraq, was found dead in his barracks Sunday morning, Iraq time.

His family isn't only coping with the loss of the 20-year-old former Portage High School football player and wrestler, but trying to understand how the athletic, recently married, outgoing young man could have died. As of late Monday afternoon, U.S. Army officials offered the Sirkos little information, except that Steven died in his sleep and an investigation is being conducted to determine his cause of death.

"We are still trying to piece all of this together," said Rick Sirko from his Portage home, adding officers who visited his home Sunday and Monday could give him no details of his son's death

[G_j]

7. not KIA

he doesn't count

imagine how the families of these ppl feel when their loss is not represented in the official number

[alcibiades_mystery]

8. That's simply not true

icasulaties.org has many listed who died stateside even weeks later, and their number matches almost exactly the military's number.

stop spreading bullshit.

[G_j]

9. try as I might I could not find any mention at that link

what is that site anyway?

business opportunities, singles
a "left behind" prophecy link?

[alcibiades_mystery]

12. Oh, my bad

www.icasualties.org/oif/

Here's the point: why would they openly declare some deaths that occurred 1 month later, but not other deaths that occur when, as this deluded parent says, the soldier has one foot on the helicopter. that makes no sense.

The common lie heard on DU is that the US military does not count as service personnel who die away from the combat zone in the general count of those killed in the war. That is a demonstrably false claim, and anyone who continues to make it is either a fool or a liar.

[G_j]

13. just found it myself, thanks

http://icasualties.org/oif/default.aspx

I am looking at it now.

btw, I am repeating what someone who works in an organization with military families stated.
I really want to get to the bottom of this question.

[leftchick]

10. that is not very nice....

If I were to choose between a parent whose child was killed in Iraq and Centcom, I would choose the Parent. I casualties seems to report the death after it has been identified by the US Military so regardless of what they say, that is why I think their numbers are Identical.

Look at history, the US military has never been honest about body counts, ours or theirs, while the conflict continues. You can't have the Americans know the truth or they just might wake up.

[alcibiades_mystery]

11. Well, that's silly

Your choosing to believe a totally uninformed person over the people with the information.

That makes no sense.

As to whether the US military has been honest in the past about US casualties, you can say it, but I'd like to see it.

The idea that the US military is hiding 2,500 dead service personnel is absolutely ludicrous, and only a fool or a zealot would believe it. It costs them much more to hide such numbers than to publicize them. It's a ridiculous claim on its face.

[leftchick]

14. a fool or a zealot eh?

I believe that is a personal attack.

[alcibiades_mystery]

15. If you believe that the US military is hiding

(Ooops. Addressed to post #14)

2500 dead service members, then I guess it would be. Since I find it impossible that anyone adept enough to turn on a computer would believe such nonsense, however, I can't imagine I'd be insulting you.

In any case, the alert button is located on the screen. Please feel free to use it if you feel like I've crossed the line. I don'ty think it is necessary to informme of your opinion of the remark, if you really want to follow procedures rigorously. Leave it to the moderators.

[DeaconBlues]

17. 1562 reported deaths now

Two more since you posted. The number just keeps going up and up, and the media is silent.