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mopaul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 05:05 AM Original message |
a war with the religious right is coming, cause that's what they want |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 05:11 AM Response to Original message |
1. it is what they want |
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HeeBGBz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 06:43 AM Response to Reply #1 |
29. Anyone have "God's Army" where you live? |
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Jamastiene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 09:01 AM Response to Reply #29 |
50. They are part of the Christian |
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Jamastiene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 05:15 AM Response to Original message |
2. I wish I had the best strategy already. |
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AlienGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 05:29 AM Response to Reply #2 |
8. Could you post about their tactics? |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 05:44 AM Response to Reply #8 |
12. Having grown up in a fundamentalist church, I think that the tactics |
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megatherium (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 07:23 AM Response to Reply #12 |
35. I think you're right, I've been to the local megachurch. |
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inchhigh (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 08:18 AM Response to Reply #12 |
42. The Heart of the Matter |
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tjwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 10:16 AM Response to Reply #42 |
57. Substituting one addiction for another eh? |
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Spangle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 01:24 PM Response to Reply #57 |
70. Bingo! IT's like the College PARTY days |
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Auntie Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 07:44 AM Response to Reply #8 |
37. I'd like to know too. Have some friends and relatives that are clueless. |
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Jamastiene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 08:22 AM Response to Reply #37 |
43. Again I refer you to the SPLC |
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IntravenousDemilo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 12:09 PM Response to Reply #43 |
67. I wonder what would happen if... |
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CrispyQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 04:41 PM Response to Reply #67 |
75. ...and pay taxes! |
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IntravenousDemilo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 05:24 PM Response to Reply #75 |
77. Oh, yes, and DEFINITELY pay taxes! |
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Jamastiene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 07:54 AM Response to Reply #8 |
39. Skidmore nailed it. |
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mopaul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 08:18 AM Response to Reply #39 |
41. little timmy and terry terrorist |
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Jamastiene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 08:51 AM Response to Reply #41 |
47. Sadly |
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izzie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 05:32 AM Response to Reply #2 |
10. We have a whole group next door. |
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jukes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 05:45 AM Response to Reply #2 |
13. act like a good boy. |
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HeeBGBz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 06:50 AM Response to Reply #2 |
30. Yeah, I can relate to your situation |
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Jamastiene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 08:56 AM Response to Reply #30 |
49. It's how they control people |
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Cooley Hurd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 05:18 AM Response to Original message |
3. They're amping up as of late... |
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wildmanj (611 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 05:19 AM Response to Original message |
4. the religious right |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 05:24 AM Response to Original message |
5. Exactly what are their numbers? How big of a group are we talking about |
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mopaul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 05:26 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. the ARE a minority |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 05:30 AM Response to Reply #6 |
9. Is there a way to demonstrate this with real numbers though? |
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Freedom_from_Chains (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 06:00 AM Response to Reply #6 |
22. Let us not forget. |
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Jamastiene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 09:09 AM Response to Reply #6 |
53. Here is a link to a site that gathers intelligence on those groups. |
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Lars39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 11:14 AM Response to Reply #53 |
62. Jamastiene--does the group in your area have a radio station? |
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Jamastiene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-05 07:11 AM Response to Reply #62 |
84. Yes |
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mopaul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 05:27 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. delete |
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Freedom_from_Chains (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 05:47 AM Response to Reply #5 |
15. How big is Christian Right |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 05:54 AM Response to Reply #15 |
19. Thanks for the link. |
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BR_Parkway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 05:48 AM Response to Reply #5 |
16. The Polls make it look much bigger, some 80+% self identify as Christian |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 08:23 AM Response to Reply #16 |
44. However, only half of that 80% are nut jobs. |
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megatherium (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 07:07 AM Response to Reply #5 |
32. I think something like 40 to 60 million Americans |
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Jamastiene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 08:41 AM Response to Reply #5 |
46. It's not all Christians. |
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Celeborn Skywalker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 11:35 AM Response to Reply #46 |
66. I think even many conservative Christians |
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LisaLynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 02:05 PM Response to Reply #5 |
72. I believe they are the minority ... |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 05:33 AM Response to Original message |
11. I agree. |
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Disturbed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 05:45 AM Response to Reply #11 |
14. The numbers are not as relevant as one may suppose. |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 05:51 AM Response to Reply #14 |
17. I believe that some factual tidbit to get out there could help the false |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 06:24 AM Response to Reply #17 |
25. Yes, both of these posts |
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Auntie Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 08:08 AM Response to Reply #14 |
40. That sounds just like bush's* rational for the war. |
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Richard D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 12:51 PM Response to Reply #14 |
68. Damn powerful picture |
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B Calm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 05:51 AM Response to Original message |
18. Would you consider the religious right a terrorist group? |
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mopaul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 05:54 AM Response to Reply #18 |
20. certain factions of it are for sure |
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ArkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 08:55 AM Response to Reply #20 |
48. >amping up the paranoia |
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Jamastiene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 09:06 AM Response to Reply #20 |
52. I hear ya. |
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Jamastiene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 07:24 AM Response to Reply #18 |
36. I would. Most of them are |
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ayeshahaqqiqa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 05:56 AM Response to Original message |
21. They don't want true believers as much as |
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ElectricIron Sweeney (130 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 06:10 AM Response to Original message |
23. A short war |
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in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 06:16 AM Response to Original message |
24. I think we should refer to these zealots as "THE AMERICAN TALIBAN" |
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megatherium (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 07:10 AM Response to Reply #24 |
33. People used to call them that, but after 9/11 |
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in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 07:18 AM Response to Reply #33 |
34. OK...How about "CHRISTIAN COALITION TALIBAN?" |
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HeeBGBz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 03:55 PM Response to Reply #24 |
73. Satan's Bush Monkeys |
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JNelson6563 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-05 07:23 AM Response to Reply #24 |
86. Tali-born-agains |
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Donailin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 06:33 AM Response to Original message |
26. Karl Christian Rove's plan is to divide and conquer |
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catzies (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 01:03 PM Response to Reply #26 |
69. That is absolutely true. Wedge issues keep us fighting each other |
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Donailin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 04:06 PM Response to Reply #69 |
74. True, but on the bigger stuff, everyone is agreeing |
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AVID (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 06:34 AM Response to Original message |
27. it is already here |
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shadowknows69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 06:40 AM Response to Original message |
28. I shall go to my burning stake with pride |
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Malva Zebrina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 07:06 AM Response to Original message |
31. I don't know if there will be a major confrontation at all |
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Mr.Green93 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 07:46 AM Response to Original message |
38. Islam will crush |
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forgethell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 10:54 AM Response to Reply #38 |
60. Well golly, that's a relief!!! |
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Extend a Hand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 08:24 AM Response to Original message |
45. I think it would be worthwile |
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Norquist Nemesis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 09:06 AM Response to Original message |
51. It won't be long until some of us need our own Isreal |
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Roland99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 09:27 AM Response to Original message |
54. Maybe they'll all leave and find a new land...like they did 400 yrs ago. |
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RevCheesehead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 09:52 AM Response to Original message |
55. A war is inevitable only when both parties agree to fight. |
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Discord (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 10:28 AM Response to Reply #55 |
58. Have you ever tried to use diplomacy with a true |
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RevCheesehead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 10:36 AM Response to Reply #58 |
59. No, not with "liberal values." That is too polarizing for them. |
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Discord (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 11:14 AM Response to Reply #59 |
63. Yeah, I just don't like the idea of negotiating with those |
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RevCheesehead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 11:35 AM Response to Reply #63 |
65. I would never suggest that you try. |
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solinvictus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 05:38 PM Response to Reply #59 |
79. There is no room for negotiation... |
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goodboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 09:54 AM Response to Original message |
56. the Christian Taliban. It's another crusade! (nt) |
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TWiley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 10:57 AM Response to Original message |
61. Wait till "Faith Based Initiatives" funding dies under a sane president. |
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Zorra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 11:20 AM Response to Original message |
64. Not a war. Kristallnacht II: The Liberals....starring John Negroponte |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 01:45 PM Response to Original message |
71. Deleted message |
NervousRex (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 04:43 PM Response to Original message |
76. Good... |
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Dave Reynolds (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 05:29 PM Response to Original message |
78. They can bring it, |
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Mr. Flibble (119 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 05:40 PM Response to Original message |
80. Believers in a religion that says killing and being greedy is wrong, yet |
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solinvictus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 05:43 PM Response to Original message |
81. Here's the Boy Scout checklist for coming times: |
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tinonedown (329 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 06:51 PM Response to Original message |
82. The anti-Christian bigots worry me more |
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solinvictus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 07:12 PM Response to Reply #82 |
83. ? |
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Jamastiene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-05 07:20 AM Response to Reply #82 |
85. That's totally at odds with reality. |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-05 07:29 AM Response to Reply #82 |
87. Sorry, you've fallen victim to propaganda. |
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SweetLeftFoot (905 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-05 07:42 AM Response to Original message |
88. They wouldn't be so scary |
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