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UdoKier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 03:05 AM
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Poll question: Minutemen/immigration brouhaha
Edited on Mon Apr-04-05 03:05 AM by UdoKier
Which statement is closer to true?
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 03:09 AM
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1. I was in Tombstone, this weekend, and the town was tense.
Locals didn't seem very happy about the Minutemen's presence.
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Robert Oak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 03:21 AM
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2. great wording
no kidding, everytime I comment on the economic and security issues
of a flood of illegals operating into an underground economy...
I get called a nazi white supremist bigot fuck...on these boards.

I like ok man, you try invading Canada and getting all of their
social services, take their jobs for half of their wages and bust their unions and see what happens to Canada when 23M Americans do that.

(not a bad idea considering how rotten our country is becoming)

Anyway, keep talking about it..it's a real problem and those
minutemen make me very very nervous.

One thing I've learned in dealing with any issue where the race card
can be played is all it takes is one asshole and the whole issue
becomes "race" versus the original economic ramifications. Drives
me crazy.
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UdoKier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 03:33 AM
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3. I'm concerned about illigal immigration, but not hysterical.
For one thing, I'm much more worried about our industries' eagerness to export well-paying, skilled jobs overseas (and our government giving them tax breaks to do so) than I am about illegals taking lower-paying jobs, but by the same token, I do believe that American businesses illegally employing these people at unconscionably low wages has a depressing effect on all wages for working people.

I tend to believe that the complaints about them using social services (which are practically nonexistent in the US) are a bit overblown. I think illegals contribute and are generally good "citizens" even if they're not really citizens.


I grew up in El Paso, so I don't have a simplistic view on this. Most of my neighbors when i grew up were Mexican, and a lot were illegals, and they were mostly great people.


The way things are going, it may not be so long before the dollar is so worthless and wages here are so low, that Mexicans will no longer want to come here any more anyway...
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 04:01 AM
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TaleWgnDg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 04:07 AM
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5. ferchrissakes . . . how DARE they take that name!
.
ferchrissakes . . . how DARE they take that name! The arrogance! After all, "minuteman" has an American -- specifically, Massachusetts -- colonial history to it.

I deeply resent some stupid damn ya-hoo gun-hugging rednecks attempting to use, no, abscond such a meaningful and historic name.



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illflem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 04:37 AM
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6. The Minutemen must think that Mexicans are stupid
when in fact the Minuteman are stupid.
With all the publicity why would the illegals cross that 23 mile section of border?
I'm sure word of mouth across the border has been enough to cause anyone wanting to cross to move their plans a little east or west.
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UdoKier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 11:59 AM
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7. Kick.
nt
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Dark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 12:18 PM
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8. I support the minute men. We don't have anything else down there,
and they aren't shooting anybody. So, if they are willing to help keep our borders safe, fine.
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wuushew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 12:41 PM
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9. Will you still support them when someone gets shot?
n/t
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John BigBootay Donating Member (574 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 12:52 PM
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10. I also support the concept of a civillian militia
to patrol the borders-- it seems indisputedly Constitutional and rational in light of a federal failure to protect the borders.

Will I conitinue to support it if someone gets shot? I suppose that depends on who gets shot and why.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 12:57 PM
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11. It depends on who gets shot
If some known criminal attempts to kill some of the minutemen and they shoot that criminal in self defense, I have no porblem and in fact, it would be a HUGE victory for their movement if something like that happened.

There are illegal aliens who are habitual criminals, you know.
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