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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 03:36 PM
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EEgads..I just heard that the nihilistic, narcissistic
monosyllable-speaking simian creature is going to invade my television with his incoherent ramblings about the Pope.
I wish he would just stfu--he has no right to eulogize anyone other than the members of his cabal.
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n2mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 03:39 PM
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1. Sure wish he would keep his nose and mouth out of my religion
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hippiepunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 03:39 PM
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2. The pope was far too great a man
to be spoken about by the monkey
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 03:42 PM
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6. you got that one right!! well said!1
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 03:49 PM
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10. I know. It drives me crazy when Chimpo does that.
He didn't listen to him about the war; didn't even listen to his own religious denomination!
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 03:39 PM
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3. No problem. I WON'T listen!!!
I simply can't stand listening to him anymore.

I used to believe you had to listen to your opposition so you know what you're fighting, but it's simply not worth what it does to my nerves.

If he says anything really stupid, someone on DU will let me know.
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Theres-a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 03:41 PM
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4. Think he'll mention abu graib?
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Harlequin Donating Member (179 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 03:41 PM
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5. Great. Now that the Pope's dead, the Puke can take the mantle...
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Hoping4Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 03:42 PM
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7. Bwaha "monosyllable-speaking simian creature"
Is the undead making noises again?
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globalvillage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 03:46 PM
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8. As a Catholic
I hope he says something respectful and brief. I hope he goes to the funeral. That's all. The Pope was a world leader, so a statement from * and attendance at the funeral is approprate. First and foremost, though, John Paul II was the spiritual leader of the Catholic people, not *'s political platform. So yes, after a statement, he should shut up and let us grieve.
And if the fundamentalists want to express condolences, that's fine too. Then then should shut up.
That's all. RIP JPII.

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Trillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 03:46 PM
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9.  It is unfair that deaths of others receive little coverage,
often not even a line in the local paper, which for most people must be 'purchased'.

You could stop paying to have that channel delivered to you in protest. Just a $$$ thought.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 04:02 PM
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11. How many seconds did it take for him to mention 9/11?
Did it break the Terri record? (for shortest amount of time) . . .
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SpaceBuddy008 Donating Member (206 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 04:03 PM
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we're stuck for'4', we don't have the #'s in congress, BALDERDASH
No knee-jerk negativity No bookie-mentality
Reductionist Thinking or Lowering of expectations
Observer Influences What is Observed

NewDay NewReality starts with the Power of Imagination
the basic human right need & gift of... Dreaming up the future
*****
The New Nihilism Michael Rivero

The twin events of World War 1 and the misnamed “Spanish Flu” (which actually appeared on a US military base in Kansas) shattered the ability of people to believe in tomorrow. The harsh lesson of both catastrophes was that it did not matter how hard you worked or what you did, your home could be destroyed in an instant, those you love die in your arms, and you yourself could be killed without a moment’s notice. Civilizations, once popularly viewed as enduring constructs, were proved fragile as entire nations were wiped from the face of the Earth, together with their cultural heritage. Society was now impermanent, and even the very young saw themselves as frail and mortal beings.

The result was a “live for the moment” mentality. Few wanted to work for tomorrow when tomorrow was so easily stolen. Money was to be spent at the moment, on the decorations of the “Gilded Age”, or for those who eschewed materialism, life was surviving for the moment and staying comfortable until whatever was going to happen, happened. It was the age of the Bohemian lifestyle, of frustrated artists in dusty attics in Paris, of what poet Gertrude Stein termed the “Lost Generation”.

Common to all these lives was Nihilism, which while popularly described as a “belief in nothing” is more accurately described as the absence of belief or faith. Whereas atheism was an absence of belief in gods, Nihilism was an absence of faith in anything, including society itself. The twin horrors of World War 1 and the Spanish Flu created a climate in which nothing seemed to be worthy of trust, either spiritually or governmentally. Those who had seen the horrors first hand could not bring themselves to plan or work for the future. “Future” was something that could not be relied upon.

A new nihilism is starting to appear in the United States. Like the Lost Generation, this malaise proceeds from multiple sources.

First and foremost is the specter of endless war, or worse, a new global war, started with the very weapons that ended the last global war. Having been raised with decades of dire warnings about how nuclear weapons can end the world amid cold-war exhortations to build personal fallout shelters, it should not come as a surprise that most people equate the current military buildup as a prelude to that much predicted end of the world. This is not metaphor; the kids with those brass keys in the silos can really do it. Who wants to work hard to build a future that might vanish in a flash of white light?

The concept of the end of the world carries with it religious overtones. Many religions have their own versions of the end times, and current world events have convinced many religious sects that those times are at hand. Parents are concerned that their children are starting to abandon their education in the belief that it will not be needed following the imminent rapture.

The economy is also playing a role in the new Nihilism. The stock market frauds of the last decade have wiped out entire lifetimes of work. The loss of high-paying jobs have forced people to accept employment far below their levels of education, causing them to wonder why they bothered. What can young people think about their own futures when they see adults with advanced degrees in menial positions?

Mainstream media has destroyed its own credibility over the last few years with overt government and corporate propaganda, leaving the general population unable to trust that they even know what is really going on in the world.

It is easy to count the costs of war and bad economic policy in terms of dollars, bodies, of flags won and flags lost. But the real cost of prolonged war and economic deprivation will be a new American “Lost Generation”, one so hopelessly devoid of trust in tomorrow that nothing can be done to save it.

We are headed in that direction now. Just look into the faces of our kids, and you can see it. When the sum of all the dead bodies, intentional impoverishment, lies and deceptions reaches a critical mass, people will stop supporting the nation, because they won’t trust it. They won’t support the economy, because they won’t trust that. Don’t look for a “rebound” because there won’t be one. Nobody will be willing to work towards a future they do not believe exists.

Of all the things Bush and the Neocons have stolen from us, the gravest loss is the loss of trust in a better tomorrow. Those who accepted in silence the war in Afghanistan did so in the trust that once Afghanistan was conquered, things would get better. Those who accepted in silence the war in Iraq did so in the trust that once Iraq was conquered, things would get better. With the obvious march towards war in Iran, the trust is gone. There will be wars from now on. None of us alive today will live to see a time of peace. That dawning awareness saps the national spirit and drives us towards a new nihilism, and a new “Lost Generation”.

from www.whatreallyhappened.com

The Future Enters inTO US...in order to TransForm Us
Long BeFore It Happens
--Ranier Maria Wilke

is all the media saturation of one 'event' after another 'training' for the high priests to 'manage' another 'collective' MoMent?

to claim legitimacy by policing the acceptable limits of free thought?

'correct' public discourse

force feeding of 'reality' which exists only in the minds of the policy makers- the self-annointated uber families


Emotion = reaction
Sapience = Reason
Poetry=HeartSpeak=ComPassion=giving=healing= L ! F E

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Theres-a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 04:03 PM
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12. culture of life,blah.blah.blah.
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 05:06 PM
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13. Juan Coles on Bush's Previous Utterrances:
Bush's bizarre press conference on Thursday was according to the Washington Post "on Terri Schiavo and Weapons of Mass Destruction."

That US newspapers report this bewildering juxtaposition without so much as a "Huhn?" tells you to what estate political discourse in this country has fallen.

http://www.juancole.com/2005/04/tragic-death-and-other-tragic-deaths-i.html
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Generic Guy Donating Member (224 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 05:09 PM
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14. You know sometimes we need to set politics aside.
Yeah bush made a fool out of himself again by speaking but, even as fake president he has an obligation to say a few words. Besides if he didn't say anything we would be blasting him for not taking the time out of his day to say a few words.
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DARE to HOPE Donating Member (552 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 05:11 PM
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15. I wanted to watch him--I wanted to see...
...how the anti-Christ would dare to speak of the Vicar of Christ.
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