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Dob Bole (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-14-03 07:26 PM Original message |
Breaking: WTO vs. Poor People---->Poor People WIN!! |
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FatbackSlim (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-14-03 07:31 PM Response to Original message |
1. Er... |
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Dob Bole (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-14-03 07:35 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. ? |
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FatbackSlim (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-14-03 07:39 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Hmmm |
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Dirk39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-14-03 08:01 PM Response to Reply #5 |
13. What the hell is "far-left" about China or Vietnam... |
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Maple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-14-03 08:22 PM Response to Reply #13 |
18. Greetings to Germany |
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Dirk39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-14-03 08:26 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. I'd be the first to agree. Germany is even worse than the USA... |
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Maple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-14-03 08:31 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. Yes, and France is a major problem |
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no name no slogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-14-03 07:35 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Trade is not "all or nothing" game |
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FatbackSlim (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-14-03 07:40 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Indeed |
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aneerkoinos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-03 04:14 AM Response to Reply #6 |
43. You are absolutely wrong |
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loudnclear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-14-03 08:40 PM Response to Reply #1 |
26. Industrialized" or "rich" countries have always wanted something from |
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Iris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-03 10:06 AM Response to Reply #1 |
50. ever hear the term "poor but happy" |
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Maple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-03 11:22 AM Response to Reply #50 |
59. And all it is, is a term |
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IrateCitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-03 11:31 AM Response to Reply #59 |
62. Materialistic people ain't happy either, Maple... |
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dmkinsey (789 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-03 12:26 PM Response to Reply #1 |
83. Trade is a one-way street |
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Room101 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-14-03 07:31 PM Response to Original message |
2. GREAT News !!!! |
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Maple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-14-03 07:43 PM Response to Original message |
7. This is a disaster for poor countries |
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bpilgrim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-14-03 08:30 PM Response to Reply #7 |
22. US Nobel laureate asks poor nations to stay firm at WTO |
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Maple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-14-03 08:45 PM Response to Reply #22 |
28. He wants them to fight |
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bpilgrim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-14-03 08:48 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. "No trade agreement is better than a bad agreement" - he said |
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Maple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-14-03 08:50 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. Well those are nice words |
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bpilgrim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-16-03 01:29 PM Response to Reply #31 |
98. aren't they always... |
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gratuitous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-14-03 07:45 PM Response to Original message |
8. Excellent |
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Maple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-14-03 07:47 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. You think it's funny to condemn thousands to starve? |
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gratuitous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-14-03 07:51 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Oh, and thousands don't starve under NAFTA? |
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Maple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-14-03 07:55 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. No they don't |
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FatbackSlim (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-14-03 08:00 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. Who's starving? |
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gratuitous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-14-03 08:05 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. Nonsense |
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Maple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-14-03 08:17 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. I don't think you |
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Nikia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-14-03 08:39 PM Response to Reply #16 |
25. I didn't think starvation was an issue here |
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Maple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-14-03 08:48 PM Response to Reply #25 |
30. You can't sell crops |
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aneerkoinos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-03 04:27 AM Response to Reply #16 |
44. Who do you blame? |
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Maple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-03 11:25 AM Response to Reply #44 |
60. Blame? |
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aneerkoinos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-03 12:23 PM Response to Reply #60 |
82. OK |
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bpilgrim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-16-03 01:39 PM Response to Reply #60 |
101. so you are blaming the victim? |
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el_gato (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-03 09:48 AM Response to Reply #9 |
48. maple has no interest in serious discussion |
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Maple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-03 11:28 AM Response to Reply #48 |
61. You think so eh? |
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aneerkoinos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-03 12:30 PM Response to Reply #48 |
84. Starvation is not bull |
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StandWatie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-03 11:54 AM Response to Reply #9 |
69. you have seriously been sold a bill of goods on this |
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Nikia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-14-03 08:10 PM Response to Original message |
15. There are problems with WTO |
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Maple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-14-03 08:20 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. Corporations |
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FatbackSlim (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-14-03 08:27 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. Exactly |
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Nikia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-14-03 08:53 PM Response to Reply #17 |
33. The U.S. grows the same products as well |
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Maple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-14-03 08:57 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. Each round |
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Resistance Is Futile (693 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-14-03 09:14 PM Response to Reply #17 |
37. The myth of national representation |
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Maple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-14-03 09:22 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. Oh do be serious |
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aneerkoinos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-03 04:44 AM Response to Reply #17 |
45. Corporations |
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IrateCitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-03 09:59 AM Response to Reply #17 |
49. It's the corporations who control the governments, Maple... |
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Maple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-03 11:38 AM Response to Reply #49 |
63. Ah yes, it's always a conspiracy |
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IrateCitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-03 11:52 AM Response to Reply #63 |
68. Reducto ad absurdum -- same old, same old from Maple |
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bpilgrim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-16-03 01:22 PM Response to Reply #63 |
96. or how bout a concerted effort by a certain group? |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-03 01:51 PM Response to Reply #49 |
87. Events prove you wrong |
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IrateCitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-03 02:05 PM Response to Reply #87 |
90. Dammit, Nederland -- stop dealing in half-truths! |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-03 02:21 PM Response to Reply #90 |
91. No half truths |
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aneerkoinos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-03 02:38 PM Response to Reply #91 |
92. What was then is now different |
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cprise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-16-03 12:07 PM Response to Reply #91 |
94. yes, they gave the WTO its chance |
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bpilgrim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-16-03 01:36 PM Response to Reply #90 |
100. some can not admit to any of our wrongs no matter how obvious, extreme |
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bpilgrim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-16-03 01:33 PM Response to Reply #87 |
99. that poor countries are only left with walking away from the talks show |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-14-03 08:30 PM Response to Original message |
21. "One size can't fit all" |
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Maple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-14-03 08:36 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. Yes, one can |
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Nikia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-14-03 08:44 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. Different countries have different laws |
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Maple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-14-03 08:53 PM Response to Reply #27 |
32. And that's the whole point |
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Nikia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-14-03 08:59 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. How do we know they'll be harmonized up? |
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Maple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-14-03 09:04 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. Because that's the framework originally set out |
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Resistance Is Futile (693 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-14-03 09:19 PM Response to Reply #24 |
38. Dictating to the world |
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Maple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-14-03 09:25 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. I think you've rendered yourself |
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Resistance Is Futile (693 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-14-03 09:43 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. Answer the question |
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Nikia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-14-03 09:46 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. A valid point was made |
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aneerkoinos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-03 05:25 AM Response to Reply #42 |
46. The whole thing is HUGE |
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Maple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-03 11:44 AM Response to Reply #42 |
64. I said nothing of the sort |
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IrateCitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-03 10:10 AM Response to Reply #40 |
51. When you deal in pithy one-liners, Maple, expect responses in kind... |
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Maple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-03 11:50 AM Response to Reply #51 |
65. Sometimes one-liners |
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IrateCitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-03 11:57 AM Response to Reply #65 |
71. Hello, pot... may I introduce you to kettle??? |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-03 11:06 AM Response to Reply #40 |
55. Maple you just lost the debate |
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Maple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-03 11:52 AM Response to Reply #55 |
67. Nah I didn't |
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JohnyCanuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-03 12:04 PM Response to Reply #67 |
77. Maple you argue your case like a 10 year old kid. |
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T_i_B (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-03 06:41 AM Response to Original message |
47. Activists shouldn't rejoice at Cancun's failure. |
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el_gato (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-03 10:46 AM Response to Reply #47 |
52. as if we are supposed to believe World Bank propagnada |
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IrateCitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-03 11:16 AM Response to Reply #52 |
58. But el_gato, that still doesn't reject the underlying premise... |
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Maple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-03 11:55 AM Response to Reply #52 |
70. No I'm sure |
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el_gato (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-03 11:59 AM Response to Reply #70 |
73. again with the name calling from maple |
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SeattleRob (893 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-03 10:48 AM Response to Reply #47 |
53. WTO, NAFTA, et al |
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aneerkoinos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-03 11:06 AM Response to Reply #53 |
56. BBC |
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SeattleRob (893 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-03 11:14 AM Response to Reply #56 |
57. Direct Action |
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aneerkoinos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-03 12:16 PM Response to Reply #57 |
81. I agree |
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Maple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-03 11:58 AM Response to Reply #53 |
72. If you believe all that nonsense |
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el_gato (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-03 12:01 PM Response to Reply #72 |
76. Tell that to the people of Argentina |
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Aries (544 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-16-03 01:07 PM Response to Reply #72 |
95. The workers of Mexico have a good idea "what's going on"... |
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bpilgrim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-16-03 01:41 PM Response to Reply #72 |
102. protest seems to be the only thing that has worked in the past... |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-03 01:46 PM Response to Reply #53 |
86. Confused |
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aneerkoinos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-03 01:55 PM Response to Reply #86 |
88. "Green room" |
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bpilgrim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-16-03 01:43 PM Response to Reply #86 |
103. do you have a link to the mettings transscripts? |
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chadm (480 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-03 10:59 AM Response to Original message |
54. Yes!!! |
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Maple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-03 12:01 PM Response to Reply #54 |
75. Apparently you are unaware |
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el_gato (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-03 12:06 PM Response to Reply #75 |
79. let em starve? |
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Liberator_Rev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-03 11:50 AM Response to Original message |
66. Jesus' solution: "Let those with TOO MUCH share with . . . |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-03 12:00 PM Response to Reply #66 |
74. The Devil in the details |
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Maple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-03 12:05 PM Response to Reply #74 |
78. Oh it's not hard to figure out |
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IrateCitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-03 12:12 PM Response to Reply #78 |
80. Finally! Something to sink my teeth into! |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-03 12:50 PM Response to Reply #78 |
85. You didn't answer the question |
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Tinoire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-03 02:05 PM Response to Original message |
89. After reading this entire thread |
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whirlygigspin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-15-03 03:13 PM Response to Reply #89 |
93. Read more about it |
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Tinoire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-16-03 01:27 PM Response to Reply #93 |
97. Cool... |
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ButterflyBlood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-16-03 01:47 PM Response to Original message |
104. I can't believe there are pro-WTO people here! |
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aneerkoinos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-17-03 02:25 AM Response to Reply #104 |
106. Believe it! :) |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-16-03 08:49 PM Response to Original message |
105. Cheers for the Poor People of the World! You haven't forgotten yourselves! |
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