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LoganW Donating Member (226 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 03:28 PM
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Schiavo might also have been for Jeb's 2008 Pres run
Another possibility is that this whole Schiavo deal was to set up Jeb with the hard right for a possible 2008 presidential run. From what I hear it's a real freak show out there at the moment. The fundies are being set up to look at him as a savior.

This makes sense because in order to win he'll need the hard-right base on a nationwide level, which is now firmly focused on him.
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 03:31 PM
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1. If that was their plan..
I think it backfired. The vast majority of people in this country are appalled by the whole spectacle.
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 03:32 PM
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7. yeah, Jeb's pretty much covered in sh*t from both sides this time....
eom
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LoganW Donating Member (226 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 03:32 PM
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9. Are the vast majority the hard right?
You don't reach out to the middle this early on. They won't even remember this two months from now.

The hard right BASE is who they are reaching out to now.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 04:25 PM
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14. Exactly, and the evangelicals who are pissed off at him now
will likely only remember that he was on the side of "life, " especially after their preachers work on them for the next 3 years.

Yeah, this was a blatant bid for support for a 2008 run. Anybody who doesn't think he's going to do it needs to check out what that family is all about. He's put up with 8 years of seeing his stupider big brother screw things up, and he's "entitled" to his 8 years.

I sincerely hope all Idiot's economic chickens start coming home to roost by then. That's the only thing that will spare us another of the Royal Bush Family's shithead sons.
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Hoping4Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 07:43 PM
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21. Yeah Jeb wasn't able to go the distance. He failed at being a
Edited on Sun Mar-27-05 07:44 PM by Hoping4Change
witness for Jesus. Jeb failed his mission. Jeb obviously doesn't have the kind of faith that will move a mountain. Sheeesh forget the mountain he can't even overcome a puny little law.:thumbsdown:
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mikehiggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 03:31 PM
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2. Then he'd better find a way to save Terry, dude.
Nobody is as unforgiving of failure as a fundamentalist fanatic.

If you fail it is because you are in league with the devil.

Its as simple as that.
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LoganW Donating Member (226 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 03:32 PM
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6. Not really
Watch the media. Jeb is being framed as doing everything humanly possible. That's a key theme.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 03:31 PM
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3. Maybe, but they're pissed at him now! He failed them.
Didn't do enough! I just heard Larry Claimon (sp) on CNN saying he is a Fla. lawyer, and he knows Jeb has the authorization to go into that hospice and rescue Terri, and he's not doing it!

Right after him, that idiot Randall TErry spoke. I didn't hear him...coundn't stand any more.
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WorseBeforeBetter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 03:31 PM
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4. I don't think he'll get this woman's vote...
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 03:31 PM
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5. Thank you for making all of this even MORE sickening, LoganW.
...Can someone please give me a lobotomy now?
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spooked911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 03:32 PM
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8. I speculated that the reason they were doing this was simply because the
owners of the voting machine companies are hard-right fundies and the GOP really needs them on their side.

http://covertoperations.blogspot.com/2005/03/fundie-conspiracy.html

Your post fits with that idea.
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UrbScotty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 03:38 PM
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10. MIGHT HAVE been?
Edited on Sun Mar-27-05 03:40 PM by ih8thegop
I don't see how they could be doing this for anything or anyone but Jeb (and perhaps Frist) in '08.
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LoganW Donating Member (226 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 03:57 PM
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11. It could also have been for
upcoming elections in certain states. Still a coin toss as to which it is.
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UrbScotty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 07:37 PM
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20. Both, perhaps? (nt)
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signmike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 04:20 PM
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12. The right wingers that are pissed at him now
will forget all about it soon. Terri will be dead and gone and Michael will get caught with his pants down, or Brittany will do somehing stupid, or another famous person will kill their spouse and all the attention to Terri will fade away to nothing. This one is for practice. Karl is learning what to do when they need another, and there are thousands of dying people all over to pick from to get the perfect patsy. They don't even need a real one - Karl can design one and his media will report his press releases verbatim. There is no end of possible vegetables for TV footage in the V.A. hospitals - they can show how much they care about the wounded vets. They can start capturing video bytes now in an obscure hospital to run incessantly whenever they wish.

What if they figure W has run his course of usefulness. They don't ever need to groom him for anything else and he can sit lame duck until he retires to Crawford and Jeb can use hospital concern and work on the fact that his bro never even went to a funeral. Hey - how about if the brain dead they get next time is really an actor and after a long ordeal with much praying he wakes up just in time to vote for Jeb?

Say hallelujah!
O8)
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NWHarkness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 05:41 PM
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16. These people never forget anything
They still hate Eisenhower for not supporting Mccarthy. They won't foget that Jeb "betrayed" them.
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LSdemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 04:20 PM
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13. I thought this might be the Bush's paying lipservice to the fundies
Doing something on the fundies agenda, but not something that has lasting impact, which will allow them to keep the fundies' support for their economic and foreign policy agenda.
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Mist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 04:31 PM
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15. If this was to help Jeb
boy did they misunderestimate how repulsed the other 82% of us would be!
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InWonder Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 05:44 PM
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17. What else is new?
The Bush clan will use any means available to them to get what
they want.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 05:46 PM
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18. The 'hard-right' is pissed at Jeb.
He needed to send in the storm troopers to satisfy the goons.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 05:49 PM
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19. But now some are calling him Pontius Pilote
I wonder how that's going to go over in 2008.

Randall Terry is all upset, saying that what the Germans were doing in WWII was perfectly legal by German law at the time. In other works, the laws don't matter, so Jeb should just kidnap her.

Somehow I wonder if this will bode well for him.
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