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Enraged American Donating Member (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 03:01 PM
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Who was the best Democratic president of the last century; the best Repub?
This is just for fun. Since you are all almost certainly going to say that FDR was the best Democrat and Teddy Roosvelt the best Republican I would like to exclude them from this thread to make it more interesting.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 03:01 PM
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1. agreed
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Enraged American Donating Member (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 03:03 PM
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5. Agreed to what?
I want you to answer who were the best with the exception of TR and FDR. In other words, who were the second best if you think those two were the best.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 03:13 PM
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14. yes I agree
ok 2nd best would be Truman or JFK
for republicans- Ike
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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 03:02 PM
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2. yes
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 03:03 PM
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3. with the Roosevelts excluded
best Democratic PResident: Bill Clinton

best Republican President: Dwight Eisenhower
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 05:28 PM
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23. Or best Democratic President: Truman, and best Republican:
Eisenhower.
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Mass_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 05:38 PM
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24. really?
isn't kucinich pretty far to the left of clinton?
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 05:40 PM
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27. Yeah he is left of Clinton
but easily the best in the last 30 years Clinton that is. I disagree with left here because FDR is my pick and Truman next, I am not sure I am pretty left and I can tell you theres some Bill did I didnt like but it was fun growing up with him, I gladly defended him, and he was a good guy.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 08:14 PM
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40. Yes. Kucinich is to the left of Clinton and so am I
but excluding FDR, so are all the other Democratic Presidents and Clinton was the most effective of the bunch.

I compare Kucinch's ideas to those of FDR.
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 03:03 PM
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4. Truman for the Dems
Edited on Sun Sep-14-03 03:04 PM by Rowdyboy
Ford for the Repubs
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Raven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 03:03 PM
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6. JFK and Ford
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xJlM Donating Member (955 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 04:20 PM
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21. Weren't JFK and Ford linked?
Wasn't Ford in charge of the whitewash known as the Warren Commission? I thought that was part of why Nixon named him to replace Spiro. Old debts, or something...
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goldilox369 Donating Member (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-03 04:14 PM
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42. yeah, i thought that too
That's why i would never pick Ford. Can't trust someone that even Nixon called "the dumbest guy on the Warren Commision". I mean, that's pretty low.
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diplomats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 03:03 PM
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7. If you exclude those two
I'd say Truman and Eisenhower.
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Nashyra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 03:06 PM
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10. Clinton and Ford
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Ediacara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 03:05 PM
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8. JFK and Eisenhauer
Edited on Sun Sep-14-03 03:06 PM by DinoBoy
although Truman and Clinton, as well as Ford are close seconds
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TheYellowDog Donating Member (498 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 03:05 PM
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9. Well
I would say LBJ for the Dems, and Eisenhower for the Repubs.
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knight_of_the_star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 03:06 PM
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11. The two Roosevelts
That family produced two of the greatest men in American history.
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searchingforlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 03:06 PM
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12. Excluding the two Roosevelts
For the Dems I am split between Harry S. Truman/Jimmy Carter.
Republican Calvin Coolidge
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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 03:12 PM
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13. FDR
As for the GOP I would say Nixon. Watergate and Vietnam aside he did some good things domestically. I would also include TR in that list.
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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 05:56 PM
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30. didn't you see?
he's excluding FDR and Roosevelt.
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Lone_Wolf_Moderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 03:15 PM
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15. From the Democratic side
Edited on Sun Sep-14-03 03:21 PM by lib4life
JFK, Truman, or LBJ for the Dems. Eisenhower would be second to TR, for the Repubs.

I'd have to include Bill Clinton in there too. He is truly the most successful Democratic President of the last 20 years. The Repubs are cringing even now.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 04:04 PM
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20. not to quibble, but he's the only Democratic President
of the last 20 years
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Lone_Wolf_Moderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 06:47 PM
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37. You'right, I should have broadened my scope to include Carter,
although that's still only one more.
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goldilox369 Donating Member (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 03:15 PM
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16. JFK and...Hoover
Edited on Sun Sep-14-03 03:17 PM by goldilox369
Because he got FDR elected. Other than that, and excluding teddy, i'm not sure if any republican has made a great president in recent history. I take that back...Ike did warn about the military-industrial complex. maybe he wasn't too bad.
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jomcnamara Donating Member (49 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 04:48 PM
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22. Ike knew from experience.
The famous warning is all well and good. But let us remember that it was Ike who introduced regime change in Iran and in Guatemala.
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Enraged American Donating Member (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 05:40 PM
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26. Who's Ike?
Eisenhower? Why all the love for him?
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 05:41 PM
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28. for the republican of the century
because he was moderate like, he was pro civil rights, and his military industrial complex quote. I say my GOP top 3 is: Teddy R, Ike, and Ford.
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 03:16 PM
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17. Who were the second best R & D presidents of the 20th century?
You are right, the vote on DU would be overwhelming for the Roosevelts as best...

I'll go with Clinton and Eisenhower. I don't see how anyone who didn't manage to get reelected could qualify and that doesn't leave a lot of choices.
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Brucey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 03:22 PM
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18. FDR and
nobody!
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Enraged American Donating Member (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 03:33 PM
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19. Wilson for Dem., Ford for Repub.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 05:40 PM
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25. For Democrats JFK for Republicans Reagan
Edited on Sun Sep-14-03 05:42 PM by Hippo_Tron
JFK's great society was great. He helped put an end to organized crime and started up the peace corps. While I can't stand Reagan's family values bullshit I really liked his foreign policy and his domestic policy was okay, but it could've been better. Unfortunately what spawned out of the Reagan revolution were scum like Dubya and Newt Gingrich.
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DerekG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 05:59 PM
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31. New Frontier, Hippo, not Great Society...
Democrat: FDR
Republican: Ike
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 06:04 PM
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32. LOL yes...
I really do need to read over my posts before I press that post button.
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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 05:55 PM
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29. JFK and Eisenhower
pretty easy
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MicheleGsc Donating Member (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 06:11 PM
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33. If term limits were ended.....
I would definitely re-elect Clinton...hands down. Any repub prez prior to Reagan is before my time. I guess I'll have to go with Ford. He seemed okay.
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Sancho Panza Donating Member (68 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 06:13 PM
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34. FDR and TR
eom
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RobertFrancisK Donating Member (617 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 06:16 PM
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35. Truman and Ike
Kennedy runs a close second, but he was cut off too early to fulfill his potential.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 06:44 PM
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36. FDR and Eisenhower
eom
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 07:39 PM
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38. LBJ and Eisenhower
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mlawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 07:55 PM
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39. I guess I am excluded, then.
Otherwise, I would say LBJ and NO repuke. That is, LBJ without Vietnam, since we are excluding factors that can not be excluded in reality.
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amber dog democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 08:51 PM
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41. Ike for R and FDR for D
but TR and Carter are included in this ranking.

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Uzybone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-03 04:19 PM
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43. Truman and Ike
Clinton would be close second to Truman
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