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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 12:24 PM
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Gingrich: President Clark would be anti-war CiC
Newtie said on FAUX this morning that if Clark were elected president, he would bring in Zinni and others critical of Bush's military action, and actually put in place an anti-war military faction in the Pentagon.

It works for me!!
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 12:27 PM
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1. Newt makes it sound
like that's a bad thing. LOL. Works for me, too.

Clark won't be anti-war but he will be very careful about where troops are committed. His position is that war needs to be a last resort. With Bush it seems to be a first resort, or at least one he will use when he gets tired to trying to browbeat other countries into submission.

MzPip
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diplomats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 12:35 PM
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5. By Newt's definition
anti-war means you don't act unilaterally to attack a country based on false intelligence, and without a plan to deal with the aftermath. If that's anti-war, then I'm as anti-war as they come.
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maha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 12:28 PM
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2. Combat vets do tend to be anti-war...
... something Chickenhawk Newtie wouldn't be able to appreciate ...
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 12:35 PM
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4. Actually, Newtie was a Captain in the Navy.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 01:12 PM
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11. Nice graphic, RUMMYisFROSTED!
Anti-war works for me, too...

From Salon's version of events during Clark's speech in Knoxville, TN last night:

http://www.salon.com/news/wire/2003/09/14/clark /

Clark, 58, who headed the U.S. Southern Command and was NATO commander during the 1999 campaign in Kosovo, said his 34 years in the military taught him, "The highest calling of the armed forces is not to wage war, but to prevent war."
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Sancho Panza Donating Member (68 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 06:54 PM
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15. Newt never served
Edited on Sun Sep-14-03 06:55 PM by Sancho Panza
He went into teaching after college, then politics.

He was the stepson of an Army officer though, which is his feeble mind, probably counts.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 12:32 PM
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3. Ever notice they always tell people what we're "gonna" do...
Like we're gonna turn this place into the Soviet Union or we're going to make people lazy or we're going to destroy religion or Gore's gonna keep having the votes counted until he comes out the winner? Keeps them from looking at our record.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 01:13 PM
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12. Clinton's economic plan was going to destroy America, too...
... that's exactly what Gingrich said when campaigning for the "Contract With America" in '94 or so.

Excellent point, LoZoccolo.
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Donna Zen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 12:49 PM
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6. sniff test
Boy...I guess newt sure would like to see his boy junior take on Clark </s> I hope Zinni rips him a new one, and I especially would like to see a major portion of the brass close ranks on these mothers.

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neuvocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 12:51 PM
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7. Same was said of Clinton
before they accused him of war crimes in Kosovo.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 12:53 PM
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8. compared to a chickenhawk that ignores critical intel?
Sounds like a better deal than what we have.
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 12:55 PM
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9. LOL - Sounds like an endorsement to ME!
Go, Newt!

I'm not a Clark supporter, but I do think that's funny.

Eloriel
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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 01:06 PM
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10. and that's a bad thing? n/t
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scarface2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 02:39 PM
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13. so...newt must be for clark huh??!!
right.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 06:40 PM
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14. And that's a bad thing............how?
Works for me also. How come these people all love war so much?
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warrior1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 06:55 PM
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16. Peace President.
Has a nice ring to it.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 06:57 PM
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17. Well, as an "Anti-War" person....it "SOUNDS NICE".........But, what about
the rest of all of it.....that makes America.....what we thought America was?

Yes, I know.....wasn't George Washington......a General?
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disgruntella Donating Member (983 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 07:02 PM
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18. Works for me too
By the way, why the hell is Newt getting ANY airtime? I know, it's Fox News and they are shameless right wing whores. But Newt Gingrich? He's about as politically relevant as "The Macarena" is musically relevant!
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phegger Donating Member (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 07:18 PM
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19. You mean...
...people who would think twice before sending our troops out to get their asses shot off for oil/pride/power/revenge? Gee, that would be a shame, wouldn't it??


-ph :smoke:
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