Tom Delay on MSNBC says "we will save Terry's life" over Easter weekend!

[cyberpj]

Calls out Boxer and pals in Senate for not caring.

Makes a Rovian appearance - SO SO SO well timed for Easter weekend so he looks like a "savior".

Man - this will really get the Evangelicals in an uproar!

We'll never get Delay now.

Democrats really SUCK at P.R. (which, it seems, is all that matters now.)

[The Matson]

1. vomit time

:puke:

Delay sucks!

[shoelace414]

2. it's not PR, it's framing the debate

the republicans can't keep their big noses out of private busniess between a husband and wife.

[cyberpj]

7. I disagree. I don't think they care - I think they'd rather have ALL NEWS

on this - 24/7 - to keep if off Iraq and the protests and other news.

[lachattefolle]

31. Like the MSM whores are going to do any kind of a decent job

covering the protests and the botched reasoning that led us into the war. Hell, they cheerleaded us down the path to "victory" over "terra".

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[cyberpj]

14. Good Question. Wish I knew. Calling them on it is too dangerous.

That's why they keep winning.

[Norquist Nemesis]

24. I've got it!!! "Terry should be in God's hands, not the Congress!"

"Terry should be in God's hands, not the Congress!"

If God decides to continue Terry's life on this Earth without tubes and contraptions, He will make it so. It's up to God whether or not to call her home with Him.

[cyberpj]

41. That's exactly right. EXACTLY RIGHT. I've said it all along.

and that's how Dems should play it.

[Vanje]

26. How do we "frame" the debate?

Owning the mainstream media helps.

[shoelace414]

28. something like this

the republicans can't keep their big noses out of private busniess between a husband and wife.

but simpler.. less words

Delay needs to stay out of peoples marital rights

[ultraist]

3. Hearing to be held at the Hospice center, March 25, Terri will attend

Subpeonas have been issued.

[rodeodance]

6. no judge has said nOT to follow the order. Delay is wrong at this point

[cyberpj]

8. They made a point to have it on Good Friday AND - on Easter,

they want her in Congress!

[Walt Starr]

4. Nah, he's desperately grandstanding!

He's sucking up to the religiously insane. It'll never fly.

[cyberpj]

11. But it WILL focus attention on Schiavo protestors this weekend -

NOT war protestors!

"Look at the monkey..... Look at the monkey....."

[AzDar]

29. I agree. Desperate grandstanding from a desperate lowlife...his

crimes are too numerous for even this little sicko bit of pr to overcome.

[Johonny]

5. Too late

she's dead already.

[rodeodance]

10. also see this thread (msnbc said the President was not involved)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1669495

[cyberpj]

12. Don't you know.... this president is NEVER involved in anything!

[rodeodance]

15. i know, i know, be his culture of life press release involves him for

sure and msnbc gets away with protecting the president once again. I emailed them!!--and sent them the press release.

[rodeodance]

19. crazy idiots, msnbc just said "NOW the president weights in--bush

weighed in yesterday!!!!!!!!

[cyberpj]

34. Are you SURE it wasn't me that said that?

I believe they said they were reading his previous statement.

[rodeodance]

13. did you hear him say he blamed this on Boxer and other Dems (he named

a few in the press conferernce) who blocked a bill yesterday--that he said could have resolved this issue!!!!!!

[cyberpj]

20. Yep - he named names and blamed them for not caring to handle it.

[cyberpj]

18. The prez weighed in with a public statement read on MSNBC

[rodeodance]

23. Bush weighed in YESTERDAY and msnbc made a mistake!! and

covered themselves and duped the world again!!

[cyberpj]

32. I think it may have been MY mistake, not theirs.

[SwedeinLA]

16. I know there are dark reasons for subpeonaing Terri......

but the absurdity of her testifying before congress is just too good to fathom!

[Cleita]

17. Well, if we don't go after Congress for treason by

bringing a religious act of defiance into our government, then they will rule us and the statues in the Hall of Justice won't just be covered with drapes but blown up and destroyed Taliban style. The Ten Commandments will be put on the White House lawn and Christian crosses will be put on all public buildings.

It's gonna have to be us that stops them. I don't think our elected Congress people, with a few exceptions have the cojones to do so.

[LiberalinNC]

21. He doesn't give a shit about her, only his own reputation!

Delay is scum!!!! This is such bullshit!

[KharmaTrain]

22. Corporate Media Feeding The Fundies

I can't tell the difference between CNNServative and the 700 Club these days. They're beating the drum to suck in as many red state viewers with a jaded and distorted presentation of this story.

They repeatedly show nearly 4 year old video, as if it's current, and I haven't seen a spokesperson for Michael Schaiavo or anyone defending this man from non-stop media assasination by the right wing.

Hate radio is simplifying and dumbing down this story further...making the echo chamber either louder...so that this personal tragedy-turned public spectacle, can be fodder for ratings and a media feeding frenzy. It's cheap, easy programming and beats having to do real news.

[rodeodance]

25. I was wondering how old that vidio was (? the one her following people

with her eyes). Is that the one you are refering too?

[rodeodance]

27. President's Statement on Terri Schiavo

From March 17, 225
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2005/03/2005031...

President's Statement on Terri Schiavo

The case of Terri Schiavo raises complex issues. Yet in instances like this one, where there are serious questions and substantial doubts, our society, our laws, and our courts should have a presumption in favor of life. Those who live at the mercy of others deserve our special care and concern. It should be our goal as a nation to build a culture of life, where all Americans are valued, welcomed, and protected - and that culture of life must extend to individuals with disabilities.

[KharmaTrain]

33. I Saw A Lot Of Edited Footage

They mix pictures like this is some sudden tragedy. Let me see...IIRC, the most popular photo they show is of a young Terri in 1989...16 years ago. Next is a video I saw dated 2001 where she appears to be responsive and sitting up. That one gets shown everywhere...and unless my calendar is different than others, that's 4 years. Fortunately Michael Schaivo has prevented cameras from anywhere near her and that's how it should remain...what is there isn't a pretty sight, no matter how much I really wish people could see it for the visceral effect.

One piece of footage I'm very suspect about was one they use showing the "feeding tube". The brief shot is of a tube inserted into a belly-button, and it's assumed this is Terri's. It isn't stated that's the case and the next cut is an edit to that 2001 video. Very, very misleading.

[Vanje]

30. Has Congress become a three-ring circus?

Between the Baseball steroid hearings and supbeonaing a comatose witness, ...
What the hell?

[cyberpj]

35. On purpose, don't you think? So they don't have time for the US ISSUES!

[Malva Zebrina]

36. If it isn't obvious to those who call themselves "pro-life" but insist

they are Democrats who are the real "pro-life" people, are being strung around by "pro-lifers" after all these threads about Terri Schiavo and strung around by the religious nuts who have appeared out of the woodwork to jump on the Terri bandwagon, including one who has ties to white supremacy groups, I don't know what it will take to to get them to admit they have been fooled into adopting that meme.

Now, a known crook and a criminal, an immoral and unethical man, a Christian, has joined in the brouhaha and the plot widens to include smearing Boxer and the Democrats.

[cyberpj]

38. You are correct! Now they can soothe Christians AND smear Dems.

[m_welby]

37. that poor woman

a political football for the republicans, and to think that christians would go along with this is tragic.

If the lord wanted her to live, she wouldnt need to be fed through an I.V. She can't even be fed real food, or even drink a baby bottle. My argument to the fundies is "This is not God's will, take the feeding tube out. If she suddenly can eat and drink then its the Lords will. Right now its just torture"

[MsTryska]

39. You know what would be really cool?

If jesus came down on Maundy Thursday, and raised Terry from her vegetative state like he raised Lazarus. That would make for a heck of an Easter, praise jesus, hallelujah.

[CBHagman]

40. Thousands die due to medical malpractice...

...and millions lose their health insurance, and some people die due to lack of good medical coverage, but DeLay can't be bothered to take action on any of those things.

Therefore, this claim that he's "caring" or "pro-life" is just hooey. He's just cynically exploiting a tragedy. GEE, WHAT A SURPRISE.

[DesEtoiles]

42. maybe Tom can ask God why God has left Terry in a coma

[cyberpj]

43. PUT TERRY IN GOD'S HAND - Not the US Congress!

Fri Mar-18-05 01:28 PM by Norquist Nemesis
"Terry should be in God's hands, not the Congress!"

If God decides to continue Terry's life on this Earth without tubes and contraptions, He will make it so. It's up to God whether or not to call her home with Him.

[nickinSTL]

44. this is ridiculous

Parading Schiavo (or what's left of her) in front of the nation like this.

If the Dems have any spine whatsoever, if they're asked to vote on what to do with her, they'll stand up and walk out.

The only way to win this politically for them is to refuse to participate.

Call it the grandstanding BS it is.

Don't play the Repubs game on this one. It's a no-win.

[cyberpj]

47. I like the option of saying put her in God's hands.....

[DinahMoeHum]

45. What is he gonna do, a faith healing?

Get the "Rev" Benny Hinn to do the honors or something??


Pizzaface asshole should STFU and leave that family alone.

And he better wear an asbestos suit when the time comes for him to meet his Maker.


:grr:

[NashVegas]

46. LET TERRI TESTIFY

Wheel her in, boys!

[mike_c]

50. I agree-- let her expire in a congressional committee room...

...so the fundy asshats in Congress can observe the suffering they're causing by contributing to the national media circus.

[Solly Mack]

48. bringing back the dead over the easter weekend?

I shall resist...(no comment)

[moobu2]

49. Anti-abortionists are picketing Michael Schiavos home

[cyberpj]

51. At 1:45pm - Judge orders hospice to remove tube immediately.

House Supena will not override the initial order.

[cyberpj]

52. Judge: Tube can be pulled

Judge: Tube can be pulled
After a short delay, Judge George Greer decided that congressional subpoenas were not enough to prevent Michael Schiavo from removing his brain-damaged wife's feeding tube.