Why won't Air America Radio talk about the child sex ring?

[RubyCat]

Why doesn't even Mike Malloy, a man who doesn't pull any of his punches, talk about the Franklin Coverup?

It is that they think no one will believe them and that they will come off sounding too much like a conspiracy nut? Or are the threats so real that they fear they will be targeted for "suicide"?

And why in the world didn't Bill Clinton do anything about it when he had the chance to? He could have taken out this criminal network and left the world a much better place, but instead he left the problem for future generations to grapple with.

I can only remember one specific time when he was in office when he made any reference to it. He mentioned that the FBI doesn't keep track of the number of children that go missing in America each year. He said that law enforcement can quote to you the exact number of cars that are stolen each year, but they don't keep figures for the number of children kidnapped each year, and that it was something for people to think about.

Is the evil organization that powerful? Could it be that Bill Clinton was afraid of it himself? How can anyone stop these crimes when not even the president himself with all his bodily protection and prosecutorial resources is willing to do anything?

[benburch]

1. Convince Mike that is is true...

and he'll not STOP talking about it.

But if he has doubts, he'll never mention it.

[Norwood]

38. Mike is on vacation (prerecorded shows all week long) n/t

[Catherine Vincent]

2. An entity too powerful?

:-(

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[dbeach]

27. hear ya loud and clear..

see my post at #8 and/or go to rense.com scroll down for 'gannon cannon" articles..

D.C. is dying a spiritual death..
Media wiil NEVER expose a story such as this but in 1989..it had some front page coverage...

[bush_is_wacko]

53. I believe there is a connection to Colorado, but I can't put my finger on

it exactly. there was a big controversy here a few years back when some idiot local politician tried to get the first EVER group facility for juvenile sex offenders built in one of two chosen sites in Jefferson County Colorado. Experts from around the globe jumped on the bandwagon to stop it from ever happening. It made it's rounds for a couple of years and the politician eventually lost his job over it.

Pete Coors actually stood up in one of those meetings and said if they built it he'd move Coors the hell out of dodge. I actually think that may have been the deal ender right then and there. That is the only decent thing I've ever seen Coors do.

Then of course there's the JonBonet Ramsey connection. I don't think people living in other states have any clue how strange that situation was. At one point in time our Governor actually held a press conference to tell the perpetrator "We ARE going to get you." It was so freaking weird to watch him say that.

There are other reasons I think that Colorado connection is there but I'm not sure I really want to add more to this right now. Other than the obvious recent "suicide" of HST, just hours after someone here on DU made a connection to Gannon/Guckert/Gosch and the Bohemian Grove. The whole mess is freaky, as far as I'm concerned!

[itcfish1]

3. Could It

be that there are democrats involved too?

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[dbeach]

10. I would say yes

can't offer any proof..but extortion and blackmail are well practiced by certain so-called leaders..

[libertypirate]

22. I have thought that for some time...

[BuyingThyme]

62. Absolutely.

[dbeach]

4. cuz the media don't..

want to embarass the power elites...
sex scandals are only for those evil librals..and its gotta lead to impeachment..

The CAEM [Corporate and Entertainment Media} will do anthing to cover this scandal which goes back to bush sr. admin and the evening tours of the WH

[oc2002]

5. umm....what child sex ring scandal?

link?

[itcfish1]

6. Franklin Scandal

I think they are talking about this:
http://www.thelawparty.com/FranklinCoverup/franklin.htm

[dbeach]

8. Viola! here tis.

http://www.thelawparty.com/FranklinCoverup/franklin.htm
"This was the biggest scandal in the history of the U.S.A history. The story received some newspaper coverage but there was a TV News Media blackout on the subject. For this reason, most Americans have never heard of it.

Former republican Senator John Decamp was involved in the production a documentary called "Conspiracy of Silence" it was to air May 3, 1994 on the Discovery Channel. This documentary exposed a network of religious leaders and Washington politicians who flew children to Washington D.C. for sex orgies. At the last minute before airing, unknown congressmen threatened the TV Cable industry with restrictive legislation if this documentary was aired."

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[pbartch]

13. LINK?????

I want to be shocked. Give me the link so I can read it please. Thanks.

[grumpy old fart]

11. He doesn't talk about aliens controlling the subways either.....

Or about the martians who use the moon as a space station, or any of the other myriad tin hat conspiracy theories that just distract people from real issues. This story is total B.S. Period.

[itcfish1]

14. Not Bull

http://www.thelawparty.com/FranklinCoverup/franklin.htm

[grumpy old fart]

15. That link proves zilch.....I can give you conspiracy links all day long..

http://www.freedomdomain.com/linkpage.htm

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[grumpy old fart]

17. What you say is true. The ridiculous part is the scores of underage

children allegedly whisked into D.C. to have sex with numerous Senators and Representatives. Come on. Remember the Daycare scandals of the early 80's? All those 3-7 year olds whisked around in jets for use in satanic rituals? Smells just the same.

[RubyCat]

23. I remember the daycare scandals of the 80's.

I remember seeing on TV on shows like 20/20 how children who were never exposed to sexual abuse can be easily led into saying how all sorts of bad things happened to them. I believe that that is very true and throws a wrench into things.

But just because some over-paranoid adults can induce some children to report child abuse that never really happened doesn't mean you throw the baby out with the bathwater. Think of all the children who actually are abused. You don't want to instigate a witch-hunt for the adults, but you also don't want to impede any investigation of the claims of abuse by the children.

[grumpy old fart]

24. Of course all allegations should be investigated....but this story is old.

even with the suckful state of journalism, I should think someone would have come up with something more credible in 15+ years.

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[leesa]

28. Not if members of the Bush Crime Family are involved.

[bush_is_wacko]

49. You are quite wrong GOF! The bush family history of pedophilia goes

all the way back to the ancestor they love to associate themselves with. King George III's "minister" was being impeached as our constitution was being WRITTEN. You want to know what he was being impeached for? Running illegal brothels for pedophiles in Bengal, among other crimes. Thereby "offending the moral standards of British statesmen."

This was what led to "The Madison Standard" which was drafted into OUR constitution. The Madison Standard does NOT require proof of a statutory crime in order to impeach. It also considers a "high crime" as an "immoral" abuse of power by a high ranking government official. Contrary to what most ordinary citizens believe our forefathers were VERY aware of the "immoral" behavior of those in high places and they formed parts of the Constitution with EXACTLY that in mind.

I contend that the pedophilia lineage of the bush's has been part of their existence since AT LEAST that time. Poppy was KNOWN to have participated in pedophilia orgies during his own administration and those orgies were held INSIDE the White House. There was more than sufficient evidence against him. Somehow EVERY key figure that EVER held this evidence has mysteriously died or disappeared, but I don't think he got them all and I think the new "conspiracy" is a group of people dedicated to protecting those with the evidence until they can safely come forward. Bush Jr. has the same propensity for pedophilia. I don't doubt it for a minute! Why do you think all those kidnapping, satanic cult, pedophilia, prostitution stories broke in the eighties? Why do you think they are so abundant now? They are resurfacing because they had merit then and they certainly apply now!

The Franklin cover-up was NOT a tinfoil hat conspiracy theory and there are a WHOLE lot of reporters that KNOW it was not. They are also very appropriately scared shirtless to run a story on it, but take a good hard look at what the average TV series is now running as their story lines on a DAILY basis and you MIGHT just get the impression they are trying to tell us all something. Pedophilia and sexual degenerates and torture and kidnapping and identity switches are EVERY day television shows now. The message is there. Are you listening?

[Jersey Ginny]

73. I agree with you n/t

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[Andy_Stephenson]

31. Check your pm's

[Dookus]

34. and you DO know

of course, that his award was only because King didn't respond to the suit. No court ever heard or ruled on the merits of his case.

[flyarm]

37. the judge ruled!!

after hearing bonacci's testimony!! no judge gives a million dollars out of the kindness of his heart!!

[Andy_Stephenson]

60. He also saw several of the photos

Rusty Nelson took...and was outraged.

[bobthedrummer]

44. Why introduce Martians into this serious matter? You were once a child

are you a parent, by any chance? Ethical law-enforcement has been held back for decades from prosecuting the guilty-this is a very serious problem.

There are a high proportion of military families involved in this as well as bases btw.

Happy St. Valentine's Day.

[scoopmeister]

12. Maybe it's because

...the whole story is the most ridiculous thing I've ever read. There's certainly no connection to Guckert.

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[NEDem]

33. The Franklin Coverup is TRUE

All of it is true, some may seem far fetched. But I KNOW its true. The book is 100% true.

Many years ago I talked at length with John DeCamp, I believe him. I didn't believe it at first either but after talking to him and seeing the things I've seen, I believe it.

[redqueen]

18. IF THE FRANKLIN COVERUP IS BS

Then where are the debunkers?

Seriously... I can find sites dedicated to debunking UFO's and whatever other red herring issues people have introduced here... is there a person on earth who has researched and debunked anything in the Franklin Coverup?

[redqueen]

20. Helooooooooo...

anyone there?

Anyone able to debunk any of it?


Link to the original article, published in 1989:

http://www.indybay.org/news/2003/02/1570946.php

[Catherine Vincent]

21. You won't find anyone to debunk it.

But I do have a problem with one particular congress person that was accused of such. If I were him, I would sue somebody for slander. But I guess he thought it best to stay away from it, there's probably no need. I mean, look at all the accusations against President Clinton...he didn't sue anyone. But to freepers, it was all true because he didn't deny or sue.

[Jesus Saves]

40. It has been debunked, roundly

by people who live in Kansas.

A single case got blown up way out of proportion.

I know you'll ask for a link, but they are out there, if you look for them.

I encourage you to do some research.

[bobthedrummer]

72. I don't have to "research" my biography, I've seen part of a child

trafficking/political network-local law enforcement was neutralized and in way over their heads back in 1969.

Many others here at DU have been affected in various ways by the results of their investigations of these types of crimes and the lack of prosecution.

Go debunk some junk in Kansas-this is a very serious problem that isn't going away regardless of who Mr. Gannon/Guckert is.

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[flyarm]

80. i encourage you to do some research into kansas

and look at the man who had his house raised looking for childrens bones near the plaza in kc in the late 70's and early 80's..he had bones in his house!! sculls and bones..i forget his name but i remember children missing alot in that time frame as i was a young mother then and was in fear for my child..kansas and missouri had a real problem then..and since my huisband was in the public as a personaility i was advised very heavily by kc and kansas detectives to really protect my child...so please ..i encourage you to do some research as you are incorrect about kansas..totally incorrrect!!

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[flyarm]

81. i encourage you to do some research into kansas

and look at the man who had his house raised looking for childrens bones near the plaza in kc in the late 70's and early 80's..he had bones in his house!! skulls
and bones..i forget his name but i remember children missing alot in that time frame as i was a young mother then and was in fear for my child..kansas and missouri had a real problem then..and since my huisband was in the public as a personaility i was advised very heavily by kc and kansas detectives to really protect my child...so please ..i encourage you to do some research as you are incorrect about kansas..totally incorrrect!!

fly

[TrustingDog]

30. you wouldn't jump in front of a speeding train, would you?

that's what Malloy or anyone might as well do if they brought that cadaver up.

[Ms. Clio]

32. Actually the FBI does keep those statistics

According to The Committee for Missing Children, Inc.:

Statistics on missing and abducted children can be, and very often are, very misleading. Much to our dismay, the number of missing and abducted children seems to vary depending on who you talk to.

We do know that there is only one mandatory reporting system in the United States and that is the NCIC, the FBI's National Crime Information Center. It is federal law that all children reported missing or abducted must be entered into NCIC at the time a police report is taken. THERE ARE NO WAITING PERIODS; therefore it would make sense that the FBI has a very good idea of who is missing at any given time.

http://findthekids.org/statistics.html

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[RubyCat]

41. I read the above links you provided, and followed some of the other

links with those pages. Given the horrors described, it's easy to see how people can immediately raise their psychological defenses and deny that such evil can possibly exist.

This is the first time I have ever heard of the book Race Against Evil by David Bannon. I'm ordering it from Amazon today.

[manna]

48. I know, it really bothers me

..on many levels, but I can't ignore it. I am just glad that there are many others who are begining to see what is really going on.

Maybe we will have a hand to play in correcting this. I would urge you don't get into this too fast, it is really horrible and it will play wonders with your mind.

[RubyCat]

51. "ArchAngel" -- David Bannon reminds me of the Nazi Hunters, and I say more

power to him. He sounds like one bad mother fucker. Multiple languages. PhD. Author. 3rd degree black belt. When you hear about the atrocities committed by the slavers, it makes you cheer upon reading passages like this:

---
On a hillside in rural Japan, Bannon was in a vicious fight with a rice farmer. The baseball bat Bannon had been using as a weapon broke in half during the struggle, but he managed to take the blunt end and ram it into his opponent's throat, bringing him to the ground. The farmer had nearly killed him. "This guy's qi was unbelievable," Bannon says. "I figure maybe Hung Gar." Bannon survived, but only just. "His arm techniques reflected lots of hours with the wooden dummy and he had that low, stable balance point that's so common to Hung Gar stylists. Impossibly fast, this guy, and he didn't telegraph at all. If my partner hadn't done a lot of damage first, I'd be dead."
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I'm aware of the arguments of the dangers of vigilantelism and having a secret group that operates outside the law, but when you consider the magnitude of the evil that you're up against, it seems like the only option.

[DarleenMB]

76. Clive Cussler commparison seems apt

I just read the info at Amazon and, frankly, I think this is just a bunch a bs.

BEar with me folks. There are liars out there who are so convincing they could sell you passage on the Titanic. They're called sociopaths.

They are charming, totally believable, and the biggest liars on the planet. It has been my misfortune to run into at least 3 of them in my lifetime.

The last one was a guy (who worked with my husband) who had many tales of his adventures in Viet Nam, up to and including being a Navy SEAL. Problem was he was 6 years old when VN was going on. But I believed him for the longest time even though my gut was telling me he was not on the up and up.

From what I read on Amazon and here I think Bannon is one of those.

So before you aim that flamethrower my way, does anyone have any PROOF this guy is who he says he is? Has anyone the creds to check him out via Interpol? Was he really an agent for them or is he making it all up.

brother. Where's my tinfoil hat when I need it?

[lies and propaganda]

36. it would be a perfect world...

but its never going to happen. Unless of course we are talking shit about some other(Asian) nation doing it. We'll never discuss why kids testified to meeting GHWB amongst tons of other highly elite pols.

[Jesus Saves]

39. because the evidence for it is sketchy at best

[RandomKoolzip]

42. Fucking hell....this isn't that Satanic Ritual Abuse bullshit again, is it

?!?!?

Come on, people. We have reams and reams and literal LIBRARIES full of concrete evidence of nefarious business committed in the name of conservative corporate politics. We don't have to make up outlandish bullshit.

It could be that (stay with me here) no one is covering the child-sex-ring "scandal" BECAUSE IT DOESN'T FUCKING EXIST!!!!

No amount of "wrinkle" threads can convince this Bush-hating liberal otherwise.

And it's EXACTLY this kind of baseless science-fiction-y ghost conjuring that distracts the real conspiracy researchers from the legitimate topics that could actually lead somewhere.

[LibertyorDeath]

64. To the contrary it is endemic

Time to take off the rose colored glasses.

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The FBI said Monday 27 people who have confessed to molesting 36 children have been arrested in a major investigation into child pornography

"Forty individuals in 20 states are now in custody, with another 50 expected by week's end," FBI Executive Assistant Director Bruce Gebhardt.

"They include members of the clergy, law enforcement officers, a nurse, a teacher's aide, a school bus driver, and others entrusted with protecting, nurturing and educating the American youth," he said.

http://archives.cnn.com/2002/US/03/18/fbi.child.porn/

Child Prostitution And Child Sex Rings

http://www.m-a-h.net/library/abuse/article-sexrings.htm

http://archives.cnn.com/2001/LAW/09/10/child.exploitation/

The three-year study, funded in part by the U.S. Department of Justice, analyzed the problem of sexual exploitation -- particularly commercial sexual exploitation -- of children in the United States, Canada and Mexico.

"Child sexual exploitation is the most hidden form of child abuse in the U.S. and North America today," said Richard J. Estes, co-author of the study. "It is the nation's least recognized epidemic."


"It is the nation's least recognized epidemic."

[RandomKoolzip]

67. It still has nothing to do with Jeff Gannon, Satan-worship....

the White House, chemtrails, or UFO's. Don't try to paint me as saying that I denied that child molestation doesn't happen, because I know it does and it's despicable. This is something different, this "Satan's Pedophiles running the WH press room thingy" you guys got goin' here. WAY different.

But unless someone has undoctored pictures of Jeff Gannon HIMSELF being molested on the floor of the Oval Office with children in black robes looking on in a pentagram formation, I will continue to tend not to swerve towards the shoulder in these matters.

[WoodrowFan]

43. maybe there's no "there" there.

just saying. If Presidents from both parties, Senators from both parties, and Representatives from both parties are ALL ignoring "IT" maybe there is no "IT."

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47. Kick.

:dem::kick:

[Catherine Vincent]

50. For those who deny that child sex rings don't exist....

I used to feel that way too. I also would never imagine in my wildest nightmares that priests molested and raped little boys either.

[Jesus Saves]

52. It's this particular case that is so foolish

Have you read the book that started it all? It's the most unsourced outlandish piece of garbage I've ever seen.

[Catherine Vincent]

54. Well that's your opinion.

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57. Correct.

And many Americans believe that no such a thing would occur here in the states. Maybe some place else, but not here. That's just sad.

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[RubyCat]

55. Then let's not talk about this particular case.

Let's not talk about any US politicians involved, whether they're democratic or republican. What you think about this particular article:

http://www.eonline.com/News/Items/0,1,829,00.html

It's about a former Miss USA who claims the Sultan of Brunei attempted to kidnap her and put her into forced prostitution. You can Google some other stories about the incident. I believe her. And I'm very saddened as to the plight of the other models involved who were unknowns unlike Shannon Marketic. Do their families even know what has become of them?

And did you read manna's above posts, #35, 48, 45, and 46? What are your views about the existence of human trafficking in foreign countries? It is that you just don't think that kind of thing can possibly happen in the US?

[RandomKoolzip]

68. Oh, I know child molestation happens.

Sometimes more than one person is doing the molestation, too.

But something....oh, I dunno, call it "horse-sense...." leads me to believe that it's probably not happening in the White House.

[Catherine Vincent]

70. The White House bit I'm not convinced of it either.

So I agreee with you there.

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61. There goes the thread....

[DerekG]

65. Sorry, but I just finished reading Bartcop

Serendipity at work.

[thebigidea]

66. it takes a special breed of slimy bastard to smear thompson right now

[Al-CIAda]

63. Yorkshire Television & The Discovery Channel –US government child sex abu

Yorkshire Television & The Discovery Channel – Conspiracy of Silence
US government child sex abuse, drugs and yet another cover-up

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71. I remember that case.

Those two boys were from Texas that were abducted in Mexico and used for satanic rituals or something. It was reported on the local news on a daily basis.

[manna]

74. yes, alot of dead voodoo satanists

as well as FBI informants, the book highlights other notable instances where a serial killer took the rap for drive by shooting (in gang land), serial killers it seem also go after allot of drug competition.

what a wonderful world

[manna]

75. A couple of Films worth watching

Spartan by David Mamet


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here's a interview with Mamet on the film
http://www.austin360.com/news/content/movies/reviews/s/mamet_spartan.html;COXnetJSessionID=C7wHj1ggvWCMFwKodWQs29smQwbM2pdUv3zs6wxYDeNtNzCukIVy!1310697691?urac=n&urvf=11111916238380.6344390147384936

Write it down, Oct. 17," says David Mamet, when asked to defend the presumption of his riveting new thriller, "Spartan," which is that the American public is blissfully unaware of how its government really operates.

"That's the day they (meaning the Bush administration) announce that they have found bin Laden," says Mamet. "If I'm wrong, it will only be because its hand has been forced by a reporter with no one's water to carry or a turncoat. This is a vicious game and it always has been, and most of the time the public would just rather not know."..


.."I read reams," says Mamet, rattling off a long list of tomes, from books on the CIA and military defense to international political histories, investigations and memoirs. His conclusion is that anyone who doesn't acknowledge the existence of government-approved or -assisted conspiracies and off-the-books missions is either hopelessly or purposely naive.

To run for office in this climate, one has to either join or accept the reality of secret societies and make constant decisions about secret knowledge. Not that the movie business or the real estate business isn't similar, it's just that the stakes aren't as high when you're using currency as opposed to human beings as your game pieces," Mamet says.

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And of course watch Eyes Wide Shut again, Stanley Kubrick was no idiot.

[DarleenMB]

77. Eyes Wide Shut was a work of fiction. your point? n/t

[flyarm]

82. seems ole' stanley wanted to expose what was really going on

may i suggest you look into the case that has just begun in France
about pedolphelia where a 1.3 million dollar court room was built expressly for this trial ..and the jury before the trial began was given a shrink...and so was the judge in the case!! and it seems the elite all over the world are implicated!! in child pedophelia..and the french press said it will be gruesome!!

seems stanley was out in front of this story!! big time!!

[RubyCat]

83. Can you give some links please?