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Emillereid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 05:09 PM
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Bush's brain without a parachute or script to follow -- any one
who can follow this idiot's logic needs meds.

I received this in an email:
The President explains the virtues of his Social Security plan, Tampa, FL, Feb. 4, 2005


WOMAN IN AUDIENCE: I don't really understand. How is it the new plan is going to fix that problem?

Verbatim response:
PRESIDENT BUSH: Because the -- all which is on the table begins to address the big cost drivers. For example, how benefits are calculated, for example, is on the table. Whether or not benefits rise based upon wage increases or price increases. There's a series of parts of the formula that are being considered. And when you couple that, those different cost drivers, affecting those -- changing those with personal accounts, the idea is to get what has been promised more likely to be -- or closer delivered to that has been promised. Does that make any sense to you? It's kind of muddled. Look, there's a series of things that cause the -- like, for example, benefits are calculated based upon the increase of wages, as opposed to the increase of prices. Some have suggested that we calculate -- the benefits will rise based upon inflation, as opposed to wage increases. There is a reform that would help solve the red if that were put into effect. In other words, how fast benefits grow, how fast the promised benefits grow, if those -- if that growth is affected, it will help on the red.

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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 05:12 PM
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1. this is your brain. this is your brain on drugs 14 years later.
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kcass1954 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 05:24 PM
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6. News flash - I did some drugs in the 70's,
including mass quantities of the one that * is alleged to have done. I don't have the same type of disconnect between my brain and my mouth that * exhibits when he's not wearing the wrinkled suit.
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 05:38 PM
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12. In the book "Bush on the Couch" the author says...
...it wasn't really the drugs, but the 20 years of heavy drinking, that most likely did the most damage.

Some Coke would probably help him function better.

I finally got treatment, for ADD, when I was diagnosed at age 32. The drugs I take now are basically Speed, but I get it legally and it works great. He definitely looks like he has, at the very least, ADD.

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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 07:02 PM
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22. organic brain syndrome - some people are more vulnerable than others
but usually triggered by alcohol moreso than other drugs.

okay - so the difference between you and * is the material you started with; you're probably not piss poor inbred protoplasm! And it's funny that us librools who have been forced to learn to take care of ourselves seem to weather the experimentation much better than the idiots who got daddy to take care of his messes.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 05:12 PM
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2. There is no connection between his brain and his mouth.
Edited on Tue Mar-15-05 05:13 PM by BrklynLiberal
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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 05:14 PM
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3. "Does that make any sense to you?"
Hell no. And if it did I'd be skeered.
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 05:15 PM
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4. is there video, or do they not allow TV media in on these
Potemkin Village embarrassments?
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Kota Donating Member (658 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 05:17 PM
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5. This is why they plant their own people in the audience.
They hide the fact that he is an idiot. Look at how shocked people were watching the debates.
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 05:27 PM
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7. I saw that posted at DubyaSpeak.com
Here's another recent classic

"Now, if you're a worker who earns 35 dollars a year over your lifetime, and this system were in effect where you could put 4 percent of your payroll taxes in a personal account, and you start at age 20, by the time you retire, your personal account would grow to $250,000. That's compounding rate of interest.

-- That's some seriously compounding interest! Raleigh, North Carolina, Feb. 10, 2005

<http://www.dubyaspeak.com/best.shtml>
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Batgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 05:27 PM
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8. Rosetta Stone for unlocking Bush's meaning
Inhale deeply from a can of Scotchguard for approximately 10 minutes, then go back and re-read the speech. And Voila! everything suddenly becomes crystal clear.

"And when you couple that, those different cost drivers, affecting those -- changing those with personal accounts, the idea is to get what has been promised more likely to be -- or closer delivered to that has been promised."

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Emillereid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 05:28 PM
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9. Your graphic is great!
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Batgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 05:34 PM
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11. thanks but the real credit goes to Bush...
Sweeping Mandate = Big Boy Potty pretty soon
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Emillereid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 05:31 PM
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10. I just realized that this is not dissimiliar to a schizophrenic's
'word salad,' except I think the schizophrenics I've worked with made more sense!
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 05:40 PM
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13. What Bush is saying is that they expect deflation in the next 50 years.
How could deflation not happen with wages already being driven down & prices falling as suppliers from China & India make things. Wages are more sticky (harder to lower with workers saying.. ah - no!). Prices of things much more easily fall.

So Bush does not want the worker making a killing on the fact that wages will fall much slower than prices. If they attach SS to the falling prices... it will go down and save the government money.

The people hurt the most by deflation are people in debt. The government will be in debt to SS recipients and will get hurt by having to pay out SS to a electrician based on $23 an hour... when electricians on the year 2042 will actually be making $12 an hour. (Guest workers will help wages go down.. but they will still be sticky).

There will be worker shortages as the Baby Boomers retire. There will be pressure on American wages to rise because of lack of people working, as the prices of manufactured things go down. Guest workers will keep some American workers from making a killing on the years 2013 to 2030. This killing will however mean that wages rise ... just as they are falling outside the West. And people will pay into SS and then... after 2030 (or whenever the Boomers die off) these workers would be entitled to lots of SS if the SS is tied to wage rates.

So Bush wants SS tied to prices so that workers will not benefit from market conditions in their retirement.

USA would be in mild depression right now if the War had not happened. The government could have spent on huge education, universal medicare, or infrastructure to keep the economy humming. But Bush choose War and nuclear proliferation rather than multilateralism and non-proliferation.
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 06:06 PM
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16. Or maybe he's hoping for a "Cold War" type solution
This is a Quote from the "Black Comedy" Film: "Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb" (1964)

(Turgidson advocates a further nuclear attack to prevent a Soviet response to Ripper's attack)

General "Buck" Turgidson: Mr. President, we are rapidly approaching a moment of truth both for ourselves as human beings and for the life of our nation. Now, truth is not always a pleasant thing. But it is necessary now to make a choice, to choose between two admittedly regrettable, but nevertheless *distinguishable*, postwar environments: one where you got twenty million people killed, and the other where you got a hundred and fifty million people killed.

President Merkin Muffley: You're talking about mass murder, General, not war!

General "Buck" Turgidson: Mr. President, I'm not saying we wouldn't get our hair mussed. But I do say no more than ten to twenty million killed, tops. Uh, depending on the breaks.
:evilfrown:
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 05:55 PM
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14. what furthur evidence do people need?
he's a fucking knuckle dragging moron.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 05:57 PM
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15. Having seen Kerry at the Kennedy Center on C-Span, this is sad
I can't believe anyone (excepting Laura or the older Bushes)voted for Bush. Bush appears unable to communicate normally Is he even running his administration. If so, how when he seems incapable of making sense. Kerry on the other hand was articulate, knowledgeable, and able to analyze complex issues. He was even secure enough to say he didn't yet have an answer when he didn't.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 06:25 PM
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19. The Silverspoon Sociopath...
has an average IQ coupled with some type of brain damage. Woodward in his recent book claimed that the Pres. spoke in an unkown language for a few minutes and was unaware that he had done so. Others have reported similar incidents yet the Lamestream Media has ignored these reports.

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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 07:00 PM
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21. Never heard about the "unknown" language
Was that talking in tongues. (We are a strange country that John and Teresa are "unAmerican" for fluidly speaking multiple real languages and our President speaks fractured English and Gibberish.
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Emillereid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 09:01 PM
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24. Can you give us a reference? or anybody who owns the book?
I'd love to read the actual transcript.

I swear Bush is sounding more and more psychotic to this old psychologist!
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 06:07 PM
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17. he doesn't care about the topic -- and can't be bothered learning
There are plenty of people who aren't geniuses or particularly articulate (and I count myself in their number) -- but when faced with a difficult issue, they care enough about it to buckle down and study it. Notice how attentive Bush is when the topic is baseball, for example -- or something else he has strong feelings about, such as punishing people (executions, going to war, etc.). Much more clear and passionate in his language.

He doesn't care about economics in general, and as for something that he views as a big-guvmint social program verging on communism -- he certainly can't be bothered with the details! (Bet he learned that from his mom -- Barbara "why should I waste my beautiful mind" Bush.)
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 06:15 PM
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18. Wow, that's so confusing it's almost...deep
If I don't understand it that's because I am only a peon and he's my preszdint. wow, my feet hurt
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 06:28 PM
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20. Hey, I sent that out to a bunch of my friends last night.
I got it from another thread. Are things going full circle?

I sent it under the subject line: "Even when the fix is in, the chimp blows it."

--IMM
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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 07:25 PM
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23. The thing that really annoys the fuck out of me
Is that he pronounces it "soash-security." Soash-security? Maybe the boy has a speech impediment and I'm mean for picking on him, but I find it difficult to take people seriously when they can't even pronounce the things they claim to be experts about.

Newkular.

Or Dennis Miller saying "middow-east."
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 09:16 PM
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25. Is there an English translation?
Please.
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