Step after Bankruptcy bill passes --Identity Theft Quadruples!

[lonestarnot]

When people are backed into corners with no way out they get desperate and we think it's bad now...just wait!

"Can't write it off well then Tom can. So can Dick and so can Harry, so I become Tom Dick or Harry because I'm ruined for life, I may as well become someone else as I have nothing left to loose... but freedom...not my freedom because we've already lost that, so now I'll burn Tom Dick and Harry's." That's interesting, wonder if we could get money for a study of the stats now and a study of the stats in 2 years. Government grant maybe????

[Randi_Listener]

1. It's only the fucking beginning.

This shit will get uglier - much, much uglier.

[lonestarnot]

2. Jeeze...how can anything get uglier dan dat?????n/t

[Randi_Listener]

3. Wait until this identity theft shit becomes a whole underground movement.

It will make the fucking cable signal theft look like a goddamn Sunday collection plate clip job.

[FreedomAngel82]

5. I think so too

If not in a few months at least by next year. *sigh* Of course the fundies will still love fearless king.

[Randi_Listener]

13. They are chickenshit.

The will never turn on Fuckface.

[Straight Shooter]

4. I'm actually more concerned about the suicide rate increasing.

Consider this: a catastrophic illness, debt piling up on top of debt, a person begins to see themselves as too extreme a financial burden, and they end up thinking to themselves, "Everyone will be better off without me," and -- boom! -- they take themselves out.

Being financially desperate while suffering from extreme medical problems is an enormous uphill battle, especially when you know there's no way out, ever.

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[lonestarnot]

6. Bills not worth that! n/t

[Walt Starr]

14. Interesting question

Would insurance companies be able to decide that failure to seek medical care in a timely fashion is suicide?

Here's my issue. I am well insured. I only seek help fom physicians when absolutely necessary, so I only see doctors in an emergency room.

If I died because I failed to see the warning signs and seek medical care, could the insurance company decide the case was "suicide to avoid financial difficulties" and refuse to pay my wife? If statistically, suicides increase under the new bankruptcy bill, I could see life insurance companies taking such a stance.

[Randi_Listener]

15. Short answer - Fuck Yes.

With the impending tort reform bill, this will be the goddamn possibility.

[Walt Starr]

16. Fortunately for my wife, they would probably not pull it in my case

She's an attorney.

[Randi_Listener]

17. It's imperative that she review the contents of the fucking reform bill.

It could hand cuff an attorney's ability as plaintiff representation in these motherfucking cases. The shit is definately actionable.

[lonestarnot]

24. Bet they try... n/t

[KansDem]

18. Damn good point!

Being financially desperate while suffering from extreme medical problems is an enormous uphill battle...

Especially if one thinks that his "extreme medical problems" is death delayed. Two years ago, I suffered a heart attack and was hospitalized followed by one month of medical leave. I missed two paychecks, and still am having problems catching up with my bills and creditors.

I also now have seven prescription drugs I must take daily, so there are additional expenditures every month I hadn't counted on. Throw in a $2,500 sewer line repair (the line backed up the second day I was home from the hospital) and my family is stretched pretty thin.

I believe I'm better off than some of the DUers I've read about in recent discussions regarding the new GOP bankruptcy law, but believe me, there isn't a day that goes by when I don't muse about how much better my family might be if I had cashed in my chips the day I had the attack...

It's not too difficult to understand the mindset of someone with a more debilitating illness/injury and greater financial duress who contemplates a "final solution..."

As I tell my wife during more stressful moments, "I'd blow out my brains if I thought I could hit them..."

[caledesi]

26. suicide; domestic violence; rise in crime; substance abuse...

that's where we are heading with this b*stard!

[Ms. Clio]

7. And doesn't the bill make it harder for people who've had their identities

stolen, to discharge the debts they don't even owe?

I thought I read something about this, but perhaps I'm wrong.

[jojo54]

8. You're right about that

This identity theft thing has gotten way out of hand. I've even thought that maybe it was a plan of the neocons simply because they knew this bill would make it thru and they needed a hand in somebody's back pocket. Octopus anyone?

[Ms. Clio]

11. We are just bugs on the windshield to these people

These are very dark days.

[eleny]

9. Mike Malloy talked about that last night

He said there was no recourse for those who have their identity stolen. They'll have to just pay the bills. I don't know if he was right or not. But it scared me to pieces.:scared:

[Ms. Clio]

10. Yes, that is very frightening

I know two people who had their identities stolen, and it was a horrible, tedious process just for them to do all the paperwork to clear it up--I can't imagine if they had been forced to pay back all the money someone else stole, too.

[this_side_up]

12. So if Choicepoint or LexisNexis does not keep

our information protected and our identity is
stolen, WE are responsible for paying the bills?

What if a postal worker steals the mail?

What if the thieves steal the blue collection boxes
(which they do anyway) or the Jack-in-the-box
home mailbox?

And how about those people in foreign countries
who are transcribing patient medical history,
office visit, surgery etc?

WE are responsbile? What bs. It is time to sue
to stop this shit.

[alfredo]

19. Tony auth's take on the BK Bill

[Randi_Listener]

20. Get ready for some Oliver Twist type of shit next.

It's in the fucking mail that without health care, debtors prisons, and no social security, we'll look like goddamn Calcutta in no fucking time.

[alfredo]

21. The shining city on the hill will have electric fences and

armed guards to keep us out.

[Kansas Wyatt]

22. Didn't Bush recently sign a new identity theft law?

[meow2u3]

23. I wouldn't be surprised in the least

Nor would I be surprised in the identity thieves targeted every senator and rep who voted for this diabolical bill--in retaliation!

[lonestarnot]

25. LOL, I thought the same thing! Today I'll be John Negroponte (sp?),

tomorrow Nancy Pelosi and so on and so forth...

[lonestarnot]

27. Have to self nominate but it doesn't work! LOL first time I've tried...

Know they did not consider this the dumbshits!