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Melodybe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 05:29 PM
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How is firing liberal professors different then firing Jewish professors
Edited on Tue Mar-08-05 06:03 PM by Melodybe
in Germany in the 1930's?

Answer? there is no fucking difference!

The Neo-facists just want to get rid of any informed voices of dissent.

God forbid, rich white kids getting pissed that their ignorant voices aren't given A's.

This is serious folks, I know we are already busy but we have one more battle to fight.

We can do this, I'm starting a petition now.

link:
http://www.petitiononline.com/freeprof/petition.html
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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 05:30 PM
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1. these fuckers laugh at petitions
i'm with ya.

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revolution now Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 05:34 PM
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2. churchill didn't get fired did he?
If so, blame it on the greedy college administrators. The only reason I can see them firing him is if allumni threaten to withhold their contributions to the college...and that would be a damn sorry excuse to censor someone.
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HEIL PRESIDENT GOD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 05:55 PM
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3. I'm interested, can you tell me who's being fired? nt
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Melodybe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 06:02 PM
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5. No one, the neo-facists are pushing to end tenour
The ditto heads have been talking about it a lot lately and I wanted to give the heads up.
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HEIL PRESIDENT GOD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 06:14 PM
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6. I think the universities have a lot of power in this
There are bad forces inside, true, but the majority of academia benefits greatly from tenure. You could not sell an end to tenure to any academic senate I can imagine. You could threaten to cut off funds, but the countersuit capabilities of your foe would be impressive to say the least. In the long run, I think universities will A) stay liberally biased as long as they teach the truth, because the truth turns people into liberals; and B) keep giving tenure for as long as they exist, because no one would suffer the ordeal of getting a PhD. without the lure of eventually having it. Tenure is SUPPOSED TO BE, but mostly IS NOT, used as a tool for political activism by professors.

Even if tenure was abolished the Feds couldn't order any of the colleges they fund to fire anyone. Tenure can be practiced formally or informally.

So I think universities will basically remain as they are UNTIL truth itself is abolished by law (which I don't believe is at all farfetched), or until the degree system as we know it bears absolutely no relation to work or social standing (which is also the trend in reality right now). When one or the other of these conditions is fully achieved, we will have the military academies, business and technical schools the Republicans want, with "merit-based" "instructors" instead of faculty. And yes, right wing propaganda will be taught as curriculum, and you can bet that UNLIKE UNDER THE CURRENT "LIBERAL" REGIME students will fail if they do not reproduce the propaganda.

Sorry, I'm a grad student (soon to be finished) and this issue really upsets me... I need to remind myself that they start squawking about it every ten years or so and nothing in particular changes.
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 05:56 PM
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4. Who got fired?
Churchill is probably going to survive all this nonsense, isn't it?
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GOPBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 06:42 PM
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7. I'm so sick of the right wing complaint that professors are too liberal.
What the hell kind of complaint is that? Let's see, the people who study the most are all liberals. Hmmmm. What does that tell you, exactly? Of course they're liberal, you idiots, because they have brains!!!!
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 06:47 PM
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8. I think they think the two words are synonyms
unless we are talking about Neocons, then if you think THAT is a synonym YOU are antisemitic!

Just depends on who is saying it, I guess...
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