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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-05 01:35 PM
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What to believe or not to believe--
Between the shooting of an Italian reporter, to Gannon/Guckert or whatever the hell his name is, to the Social Security propaganda, to an Iraq election that is a joke and the ongoing list of crap this administration has managed to screw up--one thing is for damn sure--this administration has gone from bad to worse--if that's even possible and it's only March.

When will this all hit the fan--I know it's gonna happen but when?
I have never seen such lies and propaganda as I have seen with this administration. What a fake presidency.
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-05 01:41 PM
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1. Have we reached
INFORMATION MELTDOWN ????

So much information is available and every source has been corrupted or compromised so that none of the info is trustworthy (totally).
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-05 02:23 PM
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3. yep--
I think so...it's enough to drive one crazy. With Bush's lying track record and Karl Rove being the snake that he is I don't believe anything they say, so I'm drawn to the "other side of the story" whatever that may be, however, when does that become too much...

I think it's not so much the actual story, but reading between the lines.
:crazy:
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-05 01:44 PM
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2. If it's from Bush ...
... I assume it is a lie or a half-truth. Same with the corporate media. I assume it is a spin-job. Half-truths are worse than lies because they are believeable. Suppose you ask why there is cat hair in my house. I say I don't know because I got rid of my cat some time ago. That may be true, but I fail to disclose that I replaced it with another cat. That's a half-truth.

Social Security does need to be fixed. That's true. The deceptive part is that Dubya's plan only makes it worse. Same thing with everything he has done.
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-05 02:27 PM
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4. I don't think Bush even tells half-truths
he's a puppet to Karl Rove so he doesn't even know what he's saying half the time. The other half he reads from a script. If he is telling half-truths then it's still a lie.

Has there ever been a time that Bush has undoubtedly told the "whole" truth through his term...sadly, I can't think of one. He couldn't even tell the truth that he was "wired" for the debates. When do lies and "half-truths" catch up to one?
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AValdoux Donating Member (738 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-05 02:31 PM
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5. Control Room
I watched the documentary Control Room last night on Sundance. When they talked about the missiles fired at Aljazeera & another arab news service the day before we took Baghdad it gave me goosebumps. Even if these are all "accidents", could we be any more inept?

AValdoux
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-05 02:36 PM
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6. Wasn't that a good movie? Nice seeing different coverage
and showing AlJazeera as real journalists and real people.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-05 10:09 PM
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7. The less 'hot' truth is really the truth. The one that is based in
Edited on Mon Mar-07-05 10:17 PM by applegrove
history and long term patterns is the one that is true. The one that really quickly and easily solves all your anxiety and 'what is up with my country' feelings is American troops in Iraq have been getting car-bombed and they have a policy of asking questions later and shooting first. Every moving car is a weapon to them. They killed a family (or parents) a few weeks ago. Italians escaping from terrorists and not stopping at a check point makes sense. So does them getting shot.

I was harassed one time and it was awful in the workplace but of even more consequence and deeper one...the harassment had included my private life. I didn't want to look into the deeper, longer & harsher truth. I tried to accept that I had met a creep in the workplace. I tried to make the harassment outside the workplace go away. That was my body's way of protecting itself from the more awful truth. I was harassed in both places and in all facets of my life. It would have been a much simpler solution if it had only been a quick workplace harassment. I just had to take one simple action (quit) and it would be over. I was wrong. It took me a year before I could accept how horrid the situation actually was. I had to accept that both had happened and both were happening and both would continue to happen.

Bush is in power and his evilness and the evil & 'efficiency expertise' they demonstrate is not easily proved or communicated to others. The more awful truth in this case is that for you - it seems odd that American soldiers would kill an innocent - but it is a norm and a long term one. Not a one time thing.

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