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Enraged American Donating Member (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 06:30 PM
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McClintock and Schwarzenegger
Is McClintock too local to be bought by Rove, or what? He's almost ensuring that California will remain non-fascist by splitting the vote.
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Brian Sweat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 06:31 PM
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1. What do we konw about McClintock?
What kind of Republican is he?
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nbsmom Donating Member (419 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 07:14 PM
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7. McClintock represents a more trad'l CA-style Repub
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 12:27 AM
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14. The worst. He's far right wing on everything. He sounds like a freeper
when he talks.
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Clete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 06:36 PM
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2. He's pretty conservative.
I don't think he is part of the inner circle though. He didn't get the same "orders" that Issa and Simon got.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 12:28 AM
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15. Issa had to go because he didn't look far right enough. Same with Ueberoth
McClintock stays in because he helps them cast Arnold as a moderate.

Can't win without getting some Dems to vote for the Republican.
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hippiegranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 06:37 PM
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3. mcclintock needs to avoid small planes
between now and october.
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TheYellowDog Donating Member (498 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 06:55 PM
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4. Whatever
There is no proof that Wellstone and/or Carnahan were killed by Bush or any of his ilk. I have yet to see anyone trotting out this theory post a SINGLE link supporting their position, besides other DU threads, also WITHOUT evidence. Get real.
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 07:13 PM
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6. who mentioned wellstone or carnahan?
besides you?
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Enraged American Donating Member (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 07:14 PM
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8. Wellstone was assassinated
I don't know by whom or why. But Wellstone was one of the most vocal critics of the new imperialism, and to top it off: he was a Jew. This must have pissed off someone.

It could have been done within the party or by the GOP.
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TheYellowDog Donating Member (498 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 12:00 AM
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11. You have NO proof of that.
So please stop saying making ridiculous, unsubstantiated claims like that.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 12:29 AM
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16. Uh, No. McClintock is part of the strategy.
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Emboldened Chimp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 07:04 PM
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5. He does favor medical marijuana
He said so at the debate, which I found to be an interesting position for someone as conservative as him. All in the debate favored it, in fact.
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RichM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 07:18 PM
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9. Here's a column by an SF Chronicle rightwing nut, trying to pressure
McClintock into dropping out -

It ends with these lines:

As California GOP Chairman Duf Sundheim noted Wednesday, other Republicans have bowed out for the good of the party...Soon California may know if Tom McClintock is too principled -- so rigid, in fact, that he's willing to be known as the Republican who helped elect Cruz Bustamante governor.

The columnist is Debra Saunders. I can't stand her, but it helps you see that the kind of heat that is building on McClintock.

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2003/09/11/ED42575.DTL
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 12:08 AM
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12. you should have heard Judy Woodruff on CNN
trying to badger T Mc. into dropping out.SHE WAS RELENTLESS. i thought she even harsses pukes, then I realized she was donig it for another repug, one she liked more.. An all around creature from hell.
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Hanuman Donating Member (340 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-03 07:20 PM
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10. Well, I asked the same basic question
this a.m. and was essentially ridiculed as being naive by some, who believe that Rove is all-powerful and in control of the whole process.

Hey, they may be right. Honestly, I don't know. I was never a fly on the wall during any of the meetings. But the circumstantial evidence seems to suggest either that McClintock is beyond Rove's touch, somehow- OR that Rove and co don't really give a rat's ass what happens to California to the extent that it could simply slide off into the ocean for all they care.

I side with the latter more than the former- but again, I could be wrong.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 12:26 AM
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13. Rove wants him in the race to make Arnold look moderate. He'll get his...
reward later.
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eablair3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 12:35 AM
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17. smart money says McClintock will stay in the race
Edited on Fri Sep-12-03 12:40 AM by eablair3
I've seen some dem politicians that definitely appear to be "in the know" be asked about the recall. This was weeks ago and people were talking of Davis possibly resigning to avoid the recall and putting Bustamante in as Gov. These politicians were asked about that possibility and about the Dem candidates and the Repug candidates.

They said that Davis "would never" resign. They said Davis would fight to the bitter end. They said if you know Davis, you know he would never resign.

They said weeks ago that they foresaw every significant Repug candidate withdrawing out of the race in favor of Ahnold, except McClintock. They said if you know McClintock, you'd know that McClintock is an idealogue and the traditional fundamentalist right-wing Repug that the bible thumpers will back to the end. They said he won't back out, even if the Repugs pressure him. I've watched McClintock be interviewed about this recently, and he definitely seems like he is in for the duration.

I hope he stays in.
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