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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-05 12:07 AM
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DNC Death of a Sales Pitch, Week in Review....this is awesome.
I love the way they are doing this, keeping tabs on what the GOP has said. Oh, BTW, have you donated yet, joined up?

http://www.democrats.org/news/200503040005.html

Mar 4, 2005

Death of a Sales Pitch: Week In Review
Again this week, the Republican Congress and the Bush White House have had a hard time with Bush's disastrous plan to privatize Social Security. DeLay and Frist both flip-flopped on the issue of getting Social Security legislation passed this year. GOP Senator Chuck Grassley also expressed doubts about the President's private accounts. During this time of chaos and confusion among Republicans, according to recent polls, the American people are rejecting privatization.

Et, tu Grassley?
Senate Finance Chair Chuck Grassley: 'Now's Not the Time for Privatization; We Must Focus on Solvency'. "Senate Finance Committee Chairman Charles Grassley of Iowa said Wednesday that Congress should focus on the solvency of Social Security rather than the president's plan to create personal investment accounts for younger workers. Grassley, a Republican and the head of the committee that would handle any Social Security overhaul in the Senate, said he still intends to try to get a bill approved this year. 'But maybe we ought to focus on solvency, and bring people to the table just over what do you do for solvency for the next 75 years,' Grassley said in a conference call with Iowa reporters."

Grassley: Personal Accounts Don't Solve the Problem. "Grassley also didn't back away from his comments, telling Iowa reporters, 'I don't want all the attention then on personal accounts, because they don't really solve this problem. They're good in and of themselves, but they don't solve the solvency problem.'"

Senate Majority Leader Frist: Social Security May Not Happen This Year. "Asked if it was a certainty that Social Security legislation would reach the Senate floor this year, the Republican leader, Bill Frist of Tennessee, said the 'pacing' of that legislation would be 'determined by the American people,' and added, 'In terms of whether it will be a week, a month, six months or a year as to when we bring something to the floor, it's just too early.'"

THURSDAY

Frist: "We need to do it this year - not next year, but this year."

BUT FRIST STILL PUTS SOCIAL SECURITY SQUARELY ON THE PRESIDENT'S SHOULDERS


Frist: The President "Has Got to Lead." "While Frist has lent support to Bush's Social Security plan, he's made it clear that the burden of selling it rests with the president. Indeed, during two days of travel in Tennessee earlier this month, Frist rarely raised the subject. 'Social Security will be interesting,' he said. 'I don't know what the outcome is going to be. Even with (Bush's) bold leadership, it's hard to get politicians to buy into it. That's a good example where he has got to lead.'"

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Mr Rabble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-05 12:09 AM
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1. All this seems like a nice distraction
to get attention off of the bankruptcy bill.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-05 12:24 AM
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2. It will be called Bush's bankruptcy bill. Democrats can't stop it.
The bankruptcy bill is a done deal. It is the GOP's done deal. A couple of our Dems should have supported the amendments, but this time it will be Bush's bankruptcy bill and guess what...NO ONE else to blame.

Can't blame Clinton, can't blame the Democrats. It is all on the back of the GOP, and they will have to face the wrath of their constituents when they find out....and trust me we are spreading the word.
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-05 01:08 AM
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6. Not Bush's, The Republican Party's Bankruptcy Bill. Don't let the
Edited on Sat Mar-05-05 01:09 AM by tsuki
first Republican hide behind Bush's "political cover." That is what they will attempt to do. It is the Republican Party's Social Security Plan. I have stopped using Bush's name entirely.

On edit: you are right on again madFL
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DFLforever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-05 12:24 AM
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3. Yeah, Social Security privatization is such a minor issue.
:eyes:
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-05 12:44 AM
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4. If they actually passed privatization
it would be major (and disastrous) but if they make a lot of noise about it and call it their biggest priority and get the media to talk about it, knowing it doesn't have a snowball's chance of gaining majority support among the American people and no chance of getting through Congress, then it is minor in the overall scheme of things, just a diversion and a chance to look like they are sweeping Washington clean with the broom of re-form, like the Constitutional Amendment to ban same sex marriage was last year, for example.
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DFLforever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-05 01:03 AM
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5. Who are your 'theys'?
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-05 01:12 AM
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7. They would be the Administration
Edited on Sat Mar-05-05 01:14 AM by DefenseLawyer
and the majority party in the Congress. What other "they" can propose and pass legislation in this country, or in this case propose and not pass legislation?
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DFLforever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-05 01:24 AM
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8. I don't see a sign that Bushco is anything but serious about the SS scam.
I'd guess it was his number one promise to financial backers.
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-05 01:47 AM
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9. Oh I am not saying they don't want it
but I think they also know, in the words of En Vogue, they're never gonna get it. If they had the votes for it is would have already passed with little fanfare, they would have just done it. The fact that Bush is out "selling it", means even his boys have said they can't get enough support back home to jump on board. I am quite sure that most of those nutcases "wanted" to amend the constitution to ban gay marriage but Hatch and the boys knew they weren't close to having the votes for it.
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DFLforever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-05 02:15 AM
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10. I understand what you're saying.
But we still have Bush's 60 day - 60 town SS tour to look forward to.
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